Posted July 6, 200519 yr for awhile? First off before I'm hit with all the are you crazy talk, look at his stats compared to Olsen in Carolina, if you take his Jupiter/Carolina stats combined they're very simliar. Remember this is kid who is older than Olsen and being a former college player the maturity is there. Another thing to remember the biggest jump(adjustment) for a pitcher is not going from AA to the Majors, its going from A to AA....its not out the question last start for Vargas in Carolina 5IN 3H 1ER 1BB 11K
July 6, 200519 yr Author please not yet but you and I both know its been talked about 842332[/snapback] :whistle
July 6, 200519 yr I love Vargas, but I really would rather not take another chance on screwing up one of our top prospects.
July 7, 200519 yr He has been pretty tough but if he goes to the pen I am not so certain that he that type of pitcher....look at Kensing and Bazardo and what happened to them trying to convert them from starters to the bullpen.....not a good thing...if they bring him to spot start for Josh so be it....this team is going to look at the future and bring up the young to start all over...imagine this team in a few years...another shot at the world series.....great pitching...great speed...great hitters and good defense...and best of all very hungry players...
July 7, 200519 yr If there is ever a short rest situation I would say go for it, sorta like what the Tigs did with Verlander. Verlander grew up a lot facing the Indians on Monday.
July 7, 200519 yr I don't know, I don't think it would turn out well. Plus, why not give Jason Johnson the call?
July 7, 200519 yr I don't want to bring up any more of our top prospects to the majors so soon. We likely destroyed Yorman Bazardo's confidence earlier this year, and I'm sure Logan Kensing and Chris Resop aren't feeling much better. Messenger was shelled in most of his outings, but he's older. Of all the prospects we have called up this year, only Scott Olsen has had any positive impact.
July 7, 200519 yr Author I love Vargas, but I really would rather not take another chance on screwing up one of our top prospects. 842346[/snapback] I don't think you'll screw him up, he's a college pitcher with alot of maturity. He's meet every challenge present to him at every level. I really think his next start will be veeerrry important
July 7, 200519 yr I don't know, I don't think it would turn out well. Plus, why not give Jason Johnson the call? 842743[/snapback] its Josh Johnson and he's been scuffling lately
July 7, 200519 yr I love Vargas, but I really would rather not take another chance on screwing up one of our top prospects. 842346[/snapback] I don't think you'll screw him up, he's a college pitcher with alot of maturity. He's meet every challenge present to him at every level. I really think his next start will be veeerrry important 842782[/snapback] I just think it's too much too fast. A couple weeks ago the kid was pitching in single-A ball.
July 7, 200519 yr Josh Johnson, and he is in the mold of Brad Penny...even went to the same highschool in Oklahoma(Broken Arrow). He will be fun to watch when he finally gets the call up, and his stats at AA Carolina were great for a while, but have seen a slight drop off as of late.
July 7, 200519 yr Author I love Vargas, but I really would rather not take another chance on screwing up one of our top prospects. 842346[/snapback] I don't think you'll screw him up, he's a college pitcher with alot of maturity. He's meet every challenge present to him at every level. I really think his next start will be veeerrry important 842782[/snapback] I just think it's too much too fast. A couple weeks ago the kid was pitching in single-A ball. 842784[/snapback] I guess if we would have drafted Chad Cordero two years he'd still be in the minors
July 7, 200519 yr I love Vargas, but I really would rather not take another chance on screwing up one of our top prospects. 842346[/snapback] I don't think you'll screw him up, he's a college pitcher with alot of maturity. He's meet every challenge present to him at every level. I really think his next start will be veeerrry important 842782[/snapback] I just think it's too much too fast. A couple weeks ago the kid was pitching in single-A ball. 842784[/snapback] I guess if we would have drafted Chad Cordero two years he'd still be in the minors 842888[/snapback] Chad Cordero is a reliever, and was a reliever in college. That's a totally different thing. If we're going to bring Vargas up to pitch in the pen he could probably handle it. But if we're going to expect him to pitch 5-6 solid innings for us, that is a lot to ask.
July 7, 200519 yr I don't know, I don't think it would turn out well. Plus, why not give Jason Johnson the call? its Josh Johnson and he's been scuffling latelyWhoops. Don't know where I got Jason from (probably from the title lol) How bad is the scuffing?
July 9, 200519 yr Author :thumbup tonight line for the kid 7.0IN 6H 2ER 2BB 11K 1HR 2.84 way to go kid prove to them your ready for the show
July 9, 200519 yr :thumbup tonight line for the kid 7.0IN 6H 2ER 2BB 11K 1HR 2.84 way to go kid prove to them your ready for the show 846972[/snapback] 19 innings at AA. enough said.
July 9, 200519 yr :thumbup tonight line for the kid 7.0IN 6H 2ER 2BB 11K 1HR 2.84 way to go kid prove to them your ready for the show 846972[/snapback] 19 innings at AA. enough said. 846995[/snapback] spoken by someone whose Baby Fish only had 26 and is up in the majors.... pwned.
July 9, 200519 yr :thumbup tonight line for the kid 7.0IN 6H 2ER 2BB 11K 1HR 2.84 way to go kid prove to them your ready for the show 846972[/snapback] 19 innings at AA. enough said. 846995[/snapback] spoken by someone whose Baby Fish only had 26 and is up in the majors.... pwned. 847000[/snapback] Resop's a reliever. Vargas is a starter. We don't need Vargas up here to be a reliever. It wouldn't help us or him. If we call him up to be a starter, that's a lot to ask of a guy who has only made 3 starts above A ball. pwned
July 9, 200519 yr :thumbup tonight line for the kid 7.0IN 6H 2ER 2BB 11K 1HR 2.84 way to go kid prove to them your ready for the show 846972[/snapback] 19 innings at AA. enough said. 846995[/snapback] spoken by someone whose Baby Fish only had 26 and is up in the majors.... pwned. 847000[/snapback] Resop's a reliever. Vargas is a starter. We don't need Vargas up here to be a reliever. It wouldn't help us or him. If we call him up to be a starter, that's a lot to ask of a guy who has only made 3 starts above A ball. pwned 847011[/snapback] innings are innings no matter when you have them and how often.....Vargas doesnt get extra points cause he's a starter while Resop's don't count as much.... pwned.
July 9, 200519 yr Author Again your forgetting this kid is older than Olsen and a former college pitcher. With alot more innings(college included) than Olsen since HS. Also with a lower ERA in his minor league career than Olsen and a higher K's to BB ratio enough said this kid IS ready
July 9, 200519 yr :thumbup tonight line for the kid 7.0IN 6H 2ER 2BB 11K 1HR 2.84 way to go kid prove to them your ready for the show 846972[/snapback] 19 innings at AA. enough said. 846995[/snapback] spoken by someone whose Baby Fish only had 26 and is up in the majors.... pwned. 847000[/snapback] Resop's a reliever. Vargas is a starter. We don't need Vargas up here to be a reliever. It wouldn't help us or him. If we call him up to be a starter, that's a lot to ask of a guy who has only made 3 starts above A ball. pwned 847011[/snapback] innings are innings no matter when you have them and how often.....Vargas doesnt get extra points cause he's a starter while Resop's don't count as much.... pwned. 847033[/snapback] So you're telling me it's just as easy to throw 6-7 innings a game as it is 1 inning a game?
July 9, 200519 yr Again your forgetting this kid is older than Olsen and a former college pitcher. With alot more innings(college included) than Olsen since HS. Also with a lower ERA in his minor league career than Olsen and a higher K's to BB ratio enough said this kid IS ready 847034[/snapback] ready to start...
July 9, 200519 yr Author Again your forgetting this kid is older than Olsen and a former college pitcher. With alot more innings(college included) than Olsen since HS. Also with a lower ERA in his minor league career than Olsen and a higher K's to BB ratio enough said this kid IS ready 847034[/snapback] ready to start... 847039[/snapback] YES how many innings has Olsen give the Marlins with his two starts 5 2/3 tops, you mean Vargas can't give you 5-6 innings? yes Mav he's ready
July 9, 200519 yr :thumbup tonight line for the kid 7.0IN 6H 2ER 2BB 11K 1HR 2.84 way to go kid prove to them your ready for the show 846972[/snapback] 19 innings at AA. enough said. 846995[/snapback] spoken by someone whose Baby Fish only had 26 and is up in the majors.... pwned. 847000[/snapback] Resop's a reliever. Vargas is a starter. We don't need Vargas up here to be a reliever. It wouldn't help us or him. If we call him up to be a starter, that's a lot to ask of a guy who has only made 3 starts above A ball. pwned 847011[/snapback] innings are innings no matter when you have them and how often.....Vargas doesnt get extra points cause he's a starter while Resop's don't count as much.... pwned. 847033[/snapback] So you're telling me it's just as easy to throw 6-7 innings a game as it is 1 inning a game? 847038[/snapback] im telling you an inning is an inning no matter how often you have one or how many they have.
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