WhoShaq Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 Why as the All star game approaches do our selected players always screw up AFTER they are selected? It happens all the time. The Marlins are afraid of bad weather,especially the pitchers. One sign of duress, and we lose it (confidence, rythym,stride,gohona's,etc)....all out the window and now were are 7 games out again.This team are sellers IMO. I'll eat my words about the team if they comeback tonight, but we on the verge of losing (being crushed)by a flailing Cubs team who had not won in 8 games. :mad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramp Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 does it? I dont remember this happening routinely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 This team are sellers IMO. :lol Wow. Do we have to win every damn game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinsFan253 Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 This team are sellers IMO. :lol Wow. Do we have to win every damn game? 846787[/snapback] YES! No. I'm so confused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoShaq Posted July 9, 2005 Author Share Posted July 9, 2005 does it? I dont remember this happening routinely 846736[/snapback] I don't know,it feels like it :shifty Yeah,it does. It happens alot as players start to press as they try to keep their numbers up for national tv...and end up going into slumps as the Allstar game approaches. I mean look at our selected players and look how bad the numbers have been since they've been selected.LoDuca's BA has dropped at least 15 points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoShaq Posted July 9, 2005 Author Share Posted July 9, 2005 This team are sellers IMO. :lol Wow. Do we have to win every damn game? 846787[/snapback] The thing that mashes my brain in is this.When have the Marlins won the first game of a series last? Anyone, anyone? It seems when we have some strange weather, instead of taking advantage of being the home team in times of dreary duress, we seem to cower down like little girls. Happens all the time. Dontrelle? If he were as a dominating pitcher as he appeared to be, he wouldn't ever have a game like he had tonight. Did Bob Gibson have a game like this in his ultimate season? Did Sandy Koufax? Nah, only Marlins pitchers do these smoking mirror tricks on their fans. Tired of Josh and his blisters and mysterious back twists. They should wear effing dresses on the field.I mean that.Time to BUTCH up and show some heart,man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ24 Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 does it? I dont remember this happening routinely 846736[/snapback] I don't know,it feels like it :shifty Yeah,it does. It happens alot as players start to press as they try to keep their numbers up for national tv...and end up going into slumps as the Allstar game approaches. I mean look at our selected players and look how bad the numbers have been since they've been selected.LoDuca's BA has dropped at least 15 points. 846814[/snapback] weve played 5 games since the all star team was selected, is it possible to drop 15 points in 5 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Moneyball Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 He's known he was going to the ASG for about a month now. This start had nothing to do with that. The weather is horrible tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geemoney Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 Well, I'm officially off the "Dontrelle for A.S. game starter" bandwagon. Damn, and if he had a good outing, he'd still be in the running. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Tank Frenzy Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 His AVG has dropped .07 pts since being selected and D Train pitched a complete game SO the day he was selected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramp Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 .300 to .293 coming into tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBMarlin Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 Dontrelle had trouble keeping the ball down tonight. It happens. He may not be able to repeat his first half performance, but look for Dontrelle to continue to have a great season. He has a good attitude and good heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyMountainMarlin Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 I hope he is still picked to start. Pedro is out of the game already. When is Clemens pitching? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshFish Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 I hope he is still picked to start. Pedro is out of the game already. When is Clemens pitching? 847262[/snapback] I'm 99.999% sure he won't start and I hope he doesn't. He gave up 8 ER, not what you want to see the game before the AS. I don't want to see him start the ASG and see him struggle, that won't be good for his confidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark3611 Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 Let's start clemens so he can blow the game in the first inning again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rferry Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 This thread needs to be pinned for so many reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FlummoxedLummox Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 This team are sellers IMO. :lol Wow. Do we have to win every damn game? 846787[/snapback] The thing that mashes my brain in is this.When have the Marlins won the first game of a series last? Anyone, anyone? It seems when we have some strange weather, instead of taking advantage of being the home team in times of dreary duress, we seem to cower down like little girls. Happens all the time. Dontrelle? If he were as a dominating pitcher as he appeared to be, he wouldn't ever have a game like he had tonight. Did Bob Gibson have a game like this in his ultimate season? Did Sandy Koufax? Nah, only Marlins pitchers do these smoking mirror tricks on their fans. Tired of Josh and his blisters and mysterious back twists. They should wear effing dresses on the field.I mean that.Time to BUTCH up and show some heart,man. 846827[/snapback] No good pitcher has ever had a bad game? Every pitcher gets hit sometimes. That's what happens. Baseball is a game of long run statistics, you can't get an accurate picture from one datum. In most instances Dontrelle has been awesome. Also, the pitchers you mentioned played in the second deadball era, when every advantage was given to the pitcher. In our era, every advantage is given to the hitter. Plus, Bob Gibson had a 1.08 ERA. Is that what you are expecting from Dontrelle? If so, maybe you should reallign your expectations. Your posts are so overboard man. When we win this team is World Series bound, when we lose the team should be in a trash heap. On a somewhat related note, has anybody ever thought of giving awards to different members at the end of the season? If we were to do that, you would definitely get the Chicken Little Award. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishFan24 Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 This team are sellers IMO. :lol Wow. Do we have to win every damn game? 846787[/snapback] Well I don't know about everyone else, but as long as we win more than we lose, then I'm pretty happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlin Nation Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 Why as the All star game approaches do our selected players always screw up AFTER they are selected? It happens all the time. The Marlins are afraid of bad weather,especially the pitchers. One sign of duress, and we lose it (confidence, rythym,stride,gohona's,etc)....all out the window and now were are 7 games out again.This team are sellers IMO. 846722[/snapback] I find it ironic that you give up on the team after one loss. Actually, I don't you are an idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eadearmas Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 This team are sellers IMO. :lol Wow. Do we have to win every damn game? 846787[/snapback] Did Bob Gibson have a game like this in his ultimate season? Did Sandy Koufax? 846827[/snapback] I am completely sure they all did have a bad game like this at some point during each of their seasons. Pitchers are human too, ok? Instead of emphasizing the bad, you should be emphasizing the good of this game: Mike Lowell was 2 for 3 with 3 RBIs and a Home Run! DAMN IT! :banghead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinsFan253 Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 This team are sellers IMO. :lol Wow. Do we have to win every damn game? 846787[/snapback] Did Bob Gibson have a game like this in his ultimate season? Did Sandy Koufax? 846827[/snapback] I am completely sure they all did have a bad game like this at some point during each of their seasons. Pitchers are human too, ok? Instead of emphasizing the bad, you should be emphasizing the good of this game: Mike Lowell was 2 for 3 with 3 RBIs and a Home Run! DAMN IT! :banghead 847338[/snapback] Lowell is starting to look better. I am glad because he is a good guy and not ashamed of being a Marlin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoShaq Posted July 9, 2005 Author Share Posted July 9, 2005 Why as the All star game approaches do our selected players always screw up AFTER they are selected? It happens all the time. The Marlins are afraid of bad weather,especially the pitchers. One sign of duress, and we lose it (confidence, rythym,stride,gohona's,etc)....all out the window and now were are 7 games out again.This team are sellers IMO. 846722[/snapback] I find it ironic that you give up on the team after one loss. Actually, I don't you are an idiot. 847337[/snapback] I haven't given up at all.Just frustrated at our team wasting their talent.We have a much much better team than the Braves & Nats. Also,I haven't given up after only one loss.They have lost 40 times, haha.Just kidding,I know what you meant. Wow, 40 times already! :o We'll have to really get things going but it's going to be tough when we resume the season on the road. But maybe that will show us what we are finally made of ?!! :cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miami15 Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 What's 'Trelle's ERA up to? 2.4? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoShaq Posted July 9, 2005 Author Share Posted July 9, 2005 This team are sellers IMO. :lol Wow. Do we have to win every damn game? 846787[/snapback] Did Bob Gibson have a game like this in his ultimate season? Did Sandy Koufax? 846827[/snapback] I am completely sure they all did have a bad game like this at some point during each of their seasons. Pitchers are human too, ok? Instead of emphasizing the bad, you should be emphasizing the good of this game: Mike Lowell was 2 for 3 with 3 RBIs and a Home Run! DAMN IT! :banghead 847338[/snapback] I emphasized Lowell's great game somewhere else on this forum! I also was in tears after he hit it.He's a classy guy.A warm smiling dude with alot of heart.We all want him to pull out of this despair and tonight's blast and the last 14 ab's (he has 7 hits) has been VERY encouraging!! :lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 This team are sellers IMO. :lol Wow. Do we have to win every damn game? 846787[/snapback] The thing that mashes my brain in is this.When have the Marlins won the first game of a series last? Anyone, anyone? It seems when we have some strange weather, instead of taking advantage of being the home team in times of dreary duress, we seem to cower down like little girls. Happens all the time. Dontrelle? If he were as a dominating pitcher as he appeared to be, he wouldn't ever have a game like he had tonight. Did Bob Gibson have a game like this in his ultimate season? Did Sandy Koufax? Nah, only Marlins pitchers do these smoking mirror tricks on their fans. Tired of Josh and his blisters and mysterious back twists. They should wear effing dresses on the field.I mean that.Time to BUTCH up and show some heart,man. 846827[/snapback] Dontrelle is 23 y.o. and is in his 3rd major league season. Bob Gibson was 32 and in his 10th season when he had his "ultimate" season. Bob's career stats: http://www.baseball-reference.com/g/gibsobo01.shtml Sandy Koufax...looks like he was about 25 y.o. when he started pitching consistantly. http://www.baseball-reference.com/k/koufasa01.shtml My point??? Let's let Willis get some more experience. Koufax and Gibson both did before they bacame the type of pitcher that you expect Willis to be now. I'm not saying that Willis will be in Bob or Sandy's class....but at the same age of their career....Dontrelle is more than holding his own..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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