MrAndMrsFish Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 The Florida Marlins remain confident they will be able to assemble financing for a new ballpark, according to baseball commissioner Bud Selig. The team's latest ballpark plan, 38,000-seat stadium with a retractable-roof that would be built adjacent to Miami's Orange Bowl, came apart this spring. The ballpark has an estimated cost of $420 million to $435 million, and the financing plan included $60 million in state funding. While money was approved in April by the Florida House, the Florida Senate refused to go along. South Florida government officials and the team did not meet a June 9 deadline established by Bob DuPuy, baseball's chief operating officer, for a detailed update on the funding plans. ??They keep saying they still think they're going to get something done, they need to get something done,'' Selig said Tuesday during a pre-All-Star game meeting with the Baseball Writers' Association of America. ??If they're optimistic and hopeful, I am, too.'' Florida's home attendance average of 22,385 is last in the National League and 27th among the 30 major league teams, ahead of only Tampa Bay (12,257), Kansas City (18,849) and Cleveland (22,037). ??I'm always concerned about teams that need new stadiums, and it's obvious they do. That's not a secret,'' Selig said. ??Somehow there has to be the political will and the private-sector will to get a stadium built. I mean, they are struggling mightily.'' Marlins officials met in December with Las Vegas Mayor Oscar Goodman, but Selig said a move isn't currently under discussion. ??There isn't anybody at the front of the line for moving. There isn't anybody moving anywhere right now,'' he said. Selig also expressed worry about Florida's other major league team, the Devil Rays, who are a major league-worst 28-61 and have never finished above .500 since starting play in 1998. Manager Lou Piniella last month criticized the team's ownership, saying: ??They're not interested in the present, they're interested in the future. And that's their right.'' New York investor Stuart Sternberg last year bought 48 percent of the team, which is run by managing general partner Vince Naimoli. There has been speculation that Sternberg will take over at some point. ??That's a thing that he and Vince Naimoli are going to have to work out,'' Selig said. ??Obviously, they're struggling on the field and off the field in a lot of different ways. It's another area that if you look at the basic demographics, it should be a good major league market, and the fact that they've struggled as much as they have is obviously ? it's always a concern.'' Source: AP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinsFan253 Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 If the Marlins could get a new stadium and a whole generation of South Florida kids could grow up knowing this team, there is a great potential for creating a decent-sized fan base within the next 10 years. It is a well-populated area, right? So why can't baseball really take off? I think it is just because most people are too concerned with the teams they grew up with and not many people have grown up with the Marlins. I have been a fan since I was 10 and I am 22 now so I am getting there... I really want this team to stay where they are even without me there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLRyan23 Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 I lived in Tampa for the longest time and follow the Rays as well, they don't need a new stadium. The Trop could be renovated, for instance, getting rid of the catwalks around the roof, but other than that, a Domed stadium in Florida is worth it and it's not that old, finished around the late 1980's and re-renovated in 1997 for baseball, it's fine. If they won games, they would sell seats. It's actually a good place to watch baseball and the people that put it down often times are people that have never seen a game there. The Rays also have 27 more years on their lease with Tropicana Field. The Marlins are in a diffrent boat, I think a 38k seat stadium is too small for a team in Miami, a New Stadium actually IN MIAMI will be very popular, especially for those that don't like to drive and have nothing better to do than go downtown for a game. It would really be a better situation for the Marlins to build a 40-42k seat stadium and put it downtown. imho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBMarlin Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 It sounds like the same old blah blah. I don't see where any progress has been made since the Senate refused to hear the bill. At least Selig is saying there are no plans to move the Marlins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marlin2266 Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 38,00 permanent seats is fine for this market, as long as the walkways can see the field and an extra 5K could be sold for SRO/big events. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 yeah keep it small, 38 is fine but leave it open to expansion...dont forget, the BoSox sell out every game...but then again, Fenway is baseball's smallest park in terms of capacity... I'd rather have a Marlins stadium be small to create demand for tickets...to look more full if its not sold out, and honestly, to punish those extra 10,000 or so fans who only come to the park on a supposedly big day.... basically allow it to be easy for the (somewhat) "usual" 25-30,000 fans to get in, and let the last 10,000+ struggle to get in...cause if they really wanted to see the Fish...they would have done so at Pro Joe Dolphins Stadium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLRyan23 Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 You do realize that... if the Marlins became the big ticket in town, and a new ballpark and winning made sellout games... those ticket prices are gonna soar and cause some of us, less uh... " rich " fans to be able to attend games... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeFish Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 Selig will not move any franchise willingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Moneyball Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 You do realize that... if the Marlins became the big ticket in town, and a new ballpark and winning made sellout games... those ticket prices are gonna soar and cause some of us, less uh... " rich " fans to be able to attend games... 853851[/snapback] As long as that money will be used to sign big FAs that's fine with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinsFan253 Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 You do realize that... if the Marlins became the big ticket in town, and a new ballpark and winning made sellout games... those ticket prices are gonna soar and cause some of us, less uh... " rich " fans to be able to attend games... 853851[/snapback] That would be wonderful and yet bad at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteyrave Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 You do realize that... if the Marlins became the big ticket in town, and a new ballpark and winning made sellout games... those ticket prices are gonna soar and cause some of us, less uh... " rich " fans to be able to attend games... 853851[/snapback] As long as they get sold and I get to keep watching my team and go to my occasional game. That's all that matters. :thumbup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Tank Frenzy Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 You do realize that... if the Marlins became the big ticket in town, and a new ballpark and winning made sellout games... those ticket prices are gonna soar and cause some of us, less uh... " rich " fans to be able to attend games... 853851[/snapback] Its better than the problem we have now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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