Carpenter leads Clemens in most statistics, but that 1.78 ERA may be too much to overlook

And where is Dontrelle Willis? I think he deserves talk too. But of course, making an objective poll on here including all candidates of deserving manner is too much for you?

 

 

That being said, Carpenter wins it right now.

And where is Dontrelle Willis? I think he deserves talk too. But of course, making an objective poll on here including all candidates of deserving manner is too much for you?

 

 

That being said, Carpenter wins it right now.

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there are only two candidates for this award: Clemens and Carpenter

Like Dontrelle's 20-8 2.50 ERA isn't good enough? Give me a break.

Like Dontrelle's 20-8 2.50 ERA isn't good enough? Give me a break.

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not if you're comparing his year to the years Clemens, Carpenter, Zambrano, or Peavy are having

Like Dontrelle's 20-8 2.50 ERA isn't good enough? Give me a break.

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not if you're comparing his year to the years Clemens, Carpenter, or Peavy are having

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Then why isn't Peavy on the list either. Clemens is having a tremendous year but overall record is a big thing in the Cy Young. That goes for Peavy as well.

Carpenter's going to win, but Dontrelle is going to finish ahead of Clemens if this keeps up. Clemens has amazing numbers, but after nights like last night...it's tough to snub a 20 game winner.

wow

 

 

... poll sucks ass X 3

Yeah, you could argue Dontrelle over Clemens, if you wanted to...but I don't see any angle where you can take Dontrelle over Carpenter.

Like Dontrelle's 20-8 2.50 ERA isn't good enough? Give me a break.

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not if you're comparing his year to the years Clemens, Carpenter, or Peavy are having

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Then why isn't Peavy on the list either. Clemens is having a tremendous year but overall record is a big thing in the Cy Young. That goes for Peavy as well.

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you could make a case for Willis or Peavy over Clemens, or you could make a case for Clemens over Carpenter, but there is no way to make a case for Peavy or Willis over Carpenter

You really get under my skin Mays24. Saying that Peavy deserves over DTrain is just stupid. This is the same guy who said Eric Milton should get more votes than Carl Pavano last year. You just make these polls and say all this stupid s*** to piss us off. GO AWAY

 

Peavy has no place in this discussion.. and saying he is more deserving than DTrain is just showing your true colors and showing that you just say this stuff to piss us off.

 

 

Carpenter, DTrain and Clemens stand so far out from everyone else. Take away that 15 day stretch from DTrain and nobody has outpitched him.

 

 

Seriously, go away.

Carpenter, DTrain and Clemens stand so far out from everyone else. Take away that 15 day stretch from DTrain and nobody has outpitched him.

 

Seriously, go away.

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DTrain has been awesome this year and personally I would vote for him behind Carpenter.. The thing is you cant take that 15 day stretch away but if you did your right.. But if your gonna take away 15 day stretches from Dontrelle you'd have to for Carpenter, Clemens and that's just not possible..

 

I say the same thing about Dontrelle as I say about Carpenter.. Any other year they would win.. I just have a feeling Clemens grabs it.

The more wins Carpenter keeps racking up and Clemens ERA just keeps going up little by little makes me believe Carpenter will win.

 

Right now, I might go:

 

1. Carpenter

2. Willis

3. Clemens

I can already see what Mays is gonna say. Peavy has a ton of strikeouts and a better WHIP. Big freakin whoop. Well guess what, DTrain has 8 more wins and allows less runs per game.

 

Why is this guy allowed anywhere near this site? All he does is piss people off.

Yeah, you could argue Dontrelle over Clemens, if you wanted to...but I don't see any angle where you can take Dontrelle over Carpenter.

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god forbid that Dontrelle won 20 games ... I would vote for Carpenter because he deserves it, but not adding Dontrelle to the poll is racist :mischief

 

oh and he says that Peavy would deserve it more than Dontrelle

 

 

why not make the poll with Carpenter as the sole option

Yes Clemens has a sick ERA but it's Carpenters award to lose.

Everytime this guy is on the mound the Cards know there going to win and he has been sick his last 8-10 starts.....

The more wins Carpenter keeps racking up and Clemens ERA just keeps going up little by little makes me believe Carpenter will win.

 

Right now, I might go:

 

1. Carpenter

2. Willis

3. Clemens

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Barring Clemens winning every one of his remaining starts, or getting no decisions after 8 shut out innings, or Dontrelle Willis turning into an iron-mike, that's how it's going to shake-out.

The more wins Carpenter keeps racking up and Clemens ERA just keeps going up little by little makes me believe Carpenter will win.

 

Right now, I might go:

 

1. Carpenter

2. Willis

3. Clemens

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Barring Clemens winning every one of his remaining starts, or getting no decisions after 8 shut out innings, or Dontrelle Willis turning into an iron-mike, that's how it's going to shake-out.

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Clemens, Willis, Zambrano, and Peavy can all go anywhere between 2-5., however Clemens is the only guy you could make a case for over Carpenter because of his ERA, that's why he's the only one of the four listed in the poll, and that's why i'd put him at #2... Willis also has more losses than any of the other four guys, has the second worse WHIP, and is far behind in strikeouts and BAA

Zambrano and Peavy should not be in the same sentence as Clemens and Willis. Period.

In MaysBadassBondsRoids defense, if Dontrelle was on this poll, he'd win 450-3-3 over the other two guys so I think it's right. Regardless, in most circles, it is Carpenter's award to lose.

How the hell is D-Train not on here?

 

This poll is bulls***.

Zambrano and Peavy should not be in the same sentence as Clemens and Willis. Period.

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at least someone uses his brain

In MaysBadassBondsRoids defense, if Dontrelle was on this poll, he'd win 450-3-3 over the other two guys so I think it's right. Regardless, in most circles, it is Carpenter's award to lose.

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I think a lot of people would vote for Carpenter here ... we all know that Carpenter deserves it and will most likely get it, but dontrelle is just as in it as Clemens

 

 

I know most of the people here are biased as it gets but still

Clemens' 11-7 record will hurt him. Unless he wins all of his remaining starts, he won't win it. Even then, how do you not give it to Carpenter? I agree with IowaMarlin... it'll end up like this..

 

1. Carpenter

2. Willis

3. Clemens

Well Carpenter could have a rough last stretch of games...you never know.

 

All I know is, if Schmidt was 13-12 with a 1.18 WHIP and 3.56 ERA, Mays24Bonds25 would still put him above Willis. He is doing the same thing on the Cardinals board, starting an MVP poll, with the 2 choices being Lee and Jones, leaving Pujols noticeably off.