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Do you expect Bush to be re-elected?

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If we are still at war come election time next year Bush will get re-elected.......

 

 

 

UNLESS all hell has broken loose and the USA is struggling in this conflict.

 

 

 

Are we really at war? I have heard no formal declaration of war.

 

 

You are correct though Katrina....

 

 

War generally helps the economy, but if I am correct, and I have not studied much on the Vietnam era, this was not necessarily the case....

 

 

During WWI and WWII this was definitely the case.

 

 

 

But as I promised....

 

 

This 'war' is no longer about terrorism, which is what it was supposed to all be about from the start.

 

Does this have to do with oil? Not entirely, but that has to be a factor.

 

Does this have to deal with removing Saddam from power? A big factor, but not the only by far.

 

You also have to factor in the fact that Daddy did not get the job done 12 years ago.

 

I think this is more true than ever, especially in light of the documents which have surfaced saying conflict was planned prior to inaugration in 2001.

 

But the biggest reason why this has all come to the situation it has.....

 

 

A failure of the United Nations

 

 

For too long this organization has held no real weight and has not been taken seriously. Too many edicts have been ignored, so why should Saddam pay attention to them, even the United States ignores many edicts laid down by the UN.

 

 

There has been no 'consequences' and no real action done when edicts have been ignored.....

 

 

The United States is the last remaining empire. What will occur as a result of this conflict? Every empire has failed ultimately. Is the prosperity of the American empire waning? I hope not, but we must be very cautious about this.

 

 

If Bush succeeds, he will forever secure his place in history as one of the greatest Presidents in the history of this nation. If he fails, which I think is a possibility, everyone assumes we succeed, but have we fully considered the possibilities of failure? What happens then?

 

Am I for this war? I dont know, I lean towards no. But only because I woudl rather find a peaceful alternative. But what alternative could that be? I dont know. The UN was set up for that, and it has failed. I forsee the UN crumbling and dying as a result of this, no matter what happens.

 

Will the UN rise again? Time will tell. But if it does, look for the French, Germans, and Russians to have far less clout, and the United States and her chief allies to have enormous clout. To this day, I still have no idea why the French have the clout they do, in the era the UN was created they were forced to depend on Allied intervention to liberate them...of course you can look at Russia and Germany in many of hte same ways....

 

 

Pay attention people....this era we are currently in will define the future of this world for the forseeable future.

 

Pray for the best, prepare for the worst.

Its too early to really say what happens next November yet.

 

 

 

The next few weeks will determine that largely.

If we are still at war come election time next year Bush will get re-elected.......

 

 

 

UNLESS all hell has broken loose and the USA is struggling in this conflict.

 

 

 

Are we really at war? I have heard no formal declaration of war.

 

 

You are correct though Katrina....

 

 

War generally helps the economy, but if I am correct, and I have not studied much on the Vietnam era, this was not necessarily the case....

 

 

During WWI and WWII this was definitely the case.

 

 

 

But as I promised....

 

 

This 'war' is no longer about terrorism, which is what it was supposed to all be about from the start.

 

Does this have to do with oil? Not entirely, but that has to be a factor.

 

Does this have to deal with removing Saddam from power? A big factor, but not the only by far.

 

You also have to factor in the fact that Daddy did not get the job done 12 years ago.

 

I think this is more true than ever, especially in light of the documents which have surfaced saying conflict was planned prior to inaugration in 2001.

 

But the biggest reason why this has all come to the situation it has.....

 

 

A failure of the United Nations

 

 

For too long this organization has held no real weight and has not been taken seriously. Too many edicts have been ignored, so why should Saddam pay attention to them, even the United States ignores many edicts laid down by the UN.

 

 

There has been no 'consequences' and no real action done when edicts have been ignored.....

 

 

The United States is the last remaining empire. What will occur as a result of this conflict? Every empire has failed ultimately. Is the prosperity of the American empire waning? I hope not, but we must be very cautious about this.

 

 

If Bush succeeds, he will forever secure his place in history as one of the greatest Presidents in the history of this nation. If he fails, which I think is a possibility, everyone assumes we succeed, but have we fully considered the possibilities of failure? What happens then?

 

Am I for this war? I dont know, I lean towards no. But only because I woudl rather find a peaceful alternative. But what alternative could that be? I dont know. The UN was set up for that, and it has failed. I forsee the UN crumbling and dying as a result of this, no matter what happens.

 

Will the UN rise again? Time will tell. But if it does, look for the French, Germans, and Russians to have far less clout, and the United States and her chief allies to have enormous clout. To this day, I still have no idea why the French have the clout they do, in the era the UN was created they were forced to depend on Allied intervention to liberate them...of course you can look at Russia and Germany in many of hte same ways....

 

 

Pay attention people....this era we are currently in will define the future of this world for the forseeable future.

 

Pray for the best, prepare for the worst.

Das... you are 100% correct in my opinion...

 

The UN will die...

 

This war will determine the outcome of the future..

 

and.. of course..

 

 

Pray for the best, prepare for the worst.

  • 2 weeks later...

maybe....

 

 

 

but i will just do what i did for the texas governor's race.

 

 

 

i said f*** the republicans and democrats. Neither have earned my vote.

 

 

I went LIbertarian.

 

 

Maybe I will just go Green.

 

 

 

The chances of Bush getting my vote if the election were held today is about 20%.

 

 

(Before the war it was 15%)

  • 10 months later...

it's been a year and it's looking more and more like this guy isn't going to get re-elected.

 

eh, but that's just what the opinion polls say.

Ugh, Texan, you're REALLY testing me aren't you? :mischief2

 

Here are my PERSONAL feelings:

[note: the opinions expressed do not necessarily represent the opinions of the White House, The President, or the Government of the United States of America]

 

*I* think Saddam is a threat to peace - more in his own region than anywhere else. We are talking about a man who used chemical weapons on his OWN people. We are talking about a man who uses fear and terror to rule his nation.

 

*I* think that the United States should do nothing without UN support.

 

*I* think the UN is a worthless collection of sycophants if they do nothing to support their own resolutions.

 

*I* think that the UN should do whatever it takes to preserve peace and maintain civil order.

 

*I* think that until the UN actually stands up and DOES what they PROMISE? Their resolutions will continue to be ignored...

 

*I* think that if nothing gets done here, nothing will get done in Korea.

 

*I* think that would be a VERY bad thing.

yankeefan, I agree with you on all points.

 

Having Saddam removed from power was a necessary step if there is ever going to be liberty for the Iraqi people. A peaceful Iraq (if and when it happens) would help bring peace to that troubled region.

 

The spineless UN should have shown the leadership to make it happen. Once again the US is left in the unenviable situation of having to act because the UN does not have the wherewithal to back up it's own resolutions.

 

The exact same situation existed in Kosovo where so many were suffering, and the Europeans just bickered with each other and stood idly by watching.

 

It would not be possible for the US to police all actions in the world. The most difficult choice is to decide when we can or can't. Any choice would seem unfair or unbalanced to someone.

 

Do we step in to restore order in Haiti, a country in our own backyard? Should we have gone into Somalia where we have little interest? Tough choices. I don't have the answers

:mischief2

 

You know, I keep talking about doing this but I never do it...

 

I want to set up a site that tells you who you WANT to vote for. It takes "political affiliation" and bipartisanship and throws it all out the window. Here?s how it works:

 

You log into the site. You fill out a questionnaire on some major issues and how important they are to you [to give more weight to the issues most important to you]. You also pick a position [for the matching portion].

 

After you have filled out all the questions, you click the submit button. It will return the candidates that most match your viewpoint regardless of party. This way, it doesn?t matter if your name is George Bush, John F Kennedy, or Pee Wee Herman ? if the candidate has the same stance as you on the most issues, you?ll get their name. The only snag I?m running into is this: do I base my matching on their voting records or on their promises? As we all know, these two things are not always one in the same... :mischief

Actually I did a test like that in 2000 and so did my parents to see who they should vote for and Gore came out to both of them and mine too but yet the voted for Bush. (sigh) Even though I dont think Gore would have been a better president anyways.

 

But sadly I think Bush will get re-elected again because it doesnt look like the Democratics are putting anyone out there that could win an election for there party.

:mischief2

 

You know, I keep talking about doing this but I never do it...

 

I want to set up a site that tells you who you WANT to vote for. It takes "political affiliation" and bipartisanship and throws it all out the window. Here?s how it works:

 

You log into the site. You fill out a questionnaire on some major issues and how important they are to you [to give more weight to the issues most important to you]. You also pick a position [for the matching portion].

 

After you have filled out all the questions, you click the submit button. It will return the candidates that most match your viewpoint regardless of party. This way, it doesn?t matter if your name is George Bush, John F Kennedy, or Pee Wee Herman ? if the candidate has the same stance as you on the most issues, you?ll get their name. The only snag I?m running into is this: do I base my matching on their voting records or on their promises? As we all know, these two things are not always one in the same... :mischief

Somebody actually posted a link to a site that did exactly what you're talking about. It was either Lcyberlina, Alkazoid, or Sorianofan. I forget which one. It was only for the democratic candidates though. I'll try and find it.

:mischief2

 

You know, I keep talking about doing this but I never do it...

 

I want to set up a site that tells you who you WANT to vote for. It takes "political affiliation" and bipartisanship and throws it all out the window. Here?s how it works:

 

You log into the site. You fill out a questionnaire on some major issues and how important they are to you [to give more weight to the issues most important to you]. You also pick a position [for the matching portion].

 

I guess you haven't been to presidentmatch.com.

 

I don't see Bush getting re-elected. The guy is an idiot and an incompetent leader. Unless the reports out of Iran are true, and U.S. forces have already captured Osama Bin Laden and are holding him and waiting until Bush starts falling too far in the polls.

I think its a really sad thing that says a lot about this country that you are 14 and say you are Republican. Im not making a value judgment about the party, either. It would be the same thing if you said Democrat. Most people just choose the party their parents belong to and repeat things they hear their parents say without even knowing the difference between parties or even if it reflects their own values. And Im not just talking about you. I dont think any 14-year old should have already been tagged with a party affiliation.

Says who? I'm 17 now. At 12 I already knew which side I stood on. At 14 I was already arguing pretty passionately for it. I agree that in this modern society not everyone that is 14 is ready to be making political decisions, but this isn't the total case.

 

Oh, and the parent thing does not always apply. My dad is liberalish and my mom is moderate conservative. I'm way out there.

I just keep asking myself this... Why must Juanky be a Republican? :blink: He is so cool, yet he has this tragic flaw.... *shakes head*

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

BTW, I'm just kidding. :D

I'm More conservative than the Republicans right now, if that helps any :hat

I'm More conservative than the Republicans right now, if that helps any :hat

:banghead

Why Juanky Why!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

:shifty

:hat

Why are people complaining if a 17 year old has an opinion. If he works and pays taxes, he should have the right to vote.

 

Hell, if you can be given the death penalty in your state, you should be allowed to vote.

Oh well, 18 is fine for me. I'll be able to vote this November.

My brother-in-law just turned 18 as well... He is going to vote against Bush. My husband and I are very proud of him. :mischief

I don't know how I'm going to vote yet. I'm not too fond of Bush.

 

HOWEVER

 

Today I found out that there is a very big possibility of Rudy Giuliani being Bush's running mate this November. If that is the case my vote goes to Bush-Giuliani.

I don't know how I'm going to vote yet. I'm not too fond of Bush.

 

HOWEVER

 

Today I found out that there is a very big possibility of Rudy Giuliani being Bush's running mate this November. If that is the case my vote goes to Bush-Giuliani.

*kneels down*

 

Please, pretty please do not vote Bush... Look around you, don't you see a horrible pattern getting worse in the future?

 

If you like Giuliani, then wait until he runs for president some day... I think he just may, you never know.

Lesser of two evils.

 

Bush = Garbage

Kerry = Bigger Garbage

Edwards = Big Big Garbage

 

Someone else's requests won't cause me to vote a certain way, so you should just save yourself the trouble.

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