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? Top MLB officials appear determined to get a Marlins stadium deal done on Wayne Huizenga-owned land next to Dolphins Stadium. Commissioner Bud Selig and MLB president Bob DuPuy already have spoken with Huizenga, DuPuy tells us. Among the many funding obstacles: Even though Miami-Dade County pledged $138 million toward the project at the Orange Bowl site, the agreement stipulates at least $20 million of those funds would instead go toward OB renovations if the baseball stadium isn't next to the OB. . . . Though the Marlins assuredly hope ex-Boston prospect Hanley Ramirez will win the shortstop job -- GM Admin Beinfest calls him ''maybe one of the top 10 prospects in baseball'' -- Ramirez conceded he doesn't know if he's ready for the big leagues.

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http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/sports/13433808.htm

 

? Top MLB officials appear determined to get a Marlins stadium deal done on Wayne Huizenga-owned land next to Dolphins Stadium. Commissioner Bud Selig and MLB president Bob DuPuy already have spoken with Huizenga, DuPuy tells us. Among the many funding obstacles: Even though Miami-Dade County pledged $138 million toward the project at the Orange Bowl site, the agreement stipulates at least $20 million of those funds would instead go toward OB renovations if the baseball stadium isn't next to the OB. . . . Though the Marlins assuredly hope ex-Boston prospect Hanley Ramirez will win the shortstop job -- GM Admin Beinfest calls him ''maybe one of the top 10 prospects in baseball'' -- Ramirez conceded he doesn't know if he's ready for the big leagues.

 

Great post! Call me naive, but I am not convinced it's going to be that easy to move. There is a reason Portland,San Antonio, Vegas, N. Carolina don't have teams- they are not better markets than S. Fla. It's good to see the higher ups at MLB getting involved. Land from Huzienga plus 100 mill from the county/state is more than fair. I still think these guys should be made to atleast look for a new buyer- i would think in round numbers someone will pay them 75-100 million more than they paid for it a couple years ago.

 

Typical S. Fla real estate.

 

Whammy!

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That's interesting that Hanley himself says he might not be ready for the big leagues. Don't really know what to make of him saying it, I guess we'll just have to wait until Spring Training to find out.

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Hanley's self doubting probably stems from an his unsuccessful September callup this season.

 

If the kid really does doubt himself or his ability (and isn't just being humble or the quote is taken out of context) then the Marlins need to sit down with him and smooth that over because he's going to likely be the opening day short-stop, and that first rough stretch could be a killer if he's thinking like that.

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If the kid believes he's not ready for the big leagues than he shouldn't be in the big leagues. Lets not burn him.

 

Yeah, generally speaking, if you don't believe you belong, then you don't. Although the opposite is not necessarily true.

 

Maybe a great spring would boost his confidence and change his outlook on that. Maybe it's just his nature to be cautious. I don't know enough about this kid to pretend to know. I do have a lot of concern about the Marlins throwing kids out there who simply aren't ready.

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So assuming Loria is still looking to contribute $190M+ this is what we have.

 

Miami-Dade- $118M

Marlins- $190M

Wayne- $50M and 15 acres

 

Total: About $358M

 

With a state rebate they could have another $60M. Not sure what Wayne plans to do with the money the team got in the early 90's to renovate DS.

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So assuming Loria is still looking to contribute $190M+ this is what we have.

 

Miami-Dade- $118M

Marlins- $190M

Wayne- $50M and 15 acres

 

Total: About $358M

 

With a state rebate they could have another $60M. Not sure what Wayne plans to do with the money the team got in the early 90's to renovate DS.

 

 

why would Wayne give land and money ?

 

is he going to get a part of the ownership back ?

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So assuming Loria is still looking to contribute $190M+ this is what we have.

 

Miami-Dade- $118M

Marlins- $190M

Wayne- $50M and 15 acres

 

Total: About $358M

 

With a state rebate they could have another $60M. Not sure what Wayne plans to do with the money the team got in the early 90's to renovate DS.

 

 

why would Wayne give land and money ?

 

is he going to get a part of the ownership back ?

 

So he can build DolphinTown.

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So assuming Loria is still looking to contribute $190M+ this is what we have.

 

Miami-Dade- $118M

Marlins- $190M

Wayne- $50M and 15 acres

 

Total: About $358M

 

With a state rebate they could have another $60M. Not sure what Wayne plans to do with the money the team got in the early 90's to renovate DS.

 

 

why would Wayne give land and money ?

 

is he going to get a part of the ownership back ?

 

So he can build DolphinTown.

 

That seems to be a bit much just for that, or is the 50M just going to be a loan ?

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So assuming Loria is still looking to contribute $190M+ this is what we have.

 

Miami-Dade- $118M

Marlins- $190M

Wayne- $50M and 15 acres

 

Total: About $358M

 

With a state rebate they could have another $60M. Not sure what Wayne plans to do with the money the team got in the early 90's to renovate DS.

 

 

why would Wayne give land and money ?

 

is he going to get a part of the ownership back ?

 

So he can build DolphinTown.

 

That seems to be a bit much just for that, or is the 50M just going to be a loan ?

 

That hasn't come out yet. The reports have just stated 50M and 15 acres land.

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So assuming Loria is still looking to contribute $190M+ this is what we have.

 

Miami-Dade- $118M

Marlins- $190M

Wayne- $50M and 15 acres

 

Total: About $358M

 

With a state rebate they could have another $60M. Not sure what Wayne plans to do with the money the team got in the early 90's to renovate DS.

 

 

why would Wayne give land and money ?

 

is he going to get a part of the ownership back ?

 

So he can build DolphinTown.

 

That seems to be a bit much just for that, or is the 50M just going to be a loan ?

 

That hasn't come out yet. The reports have just stated 50M and 15 acres land.

 

Maybe he wants a part of the ownership, where.. through the years.. he'll keep buying and buying to where he becomes the majority owner again and has two stadiums nextdoor and his little town.

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So assuming Loria is still looking to contribute $190M+ this is what we have.

 

Miami-Dade- $118M

Marlins- $190M

Wayne- $50M and 15 acres

 

Total: About $358M

 

With a state rebate they could have another $60M. Not sure what Wayne plans to do with the money the team got in the early 90's to renovate DS.

 

 

why would Wayne give land and money ?

 

is he going to get a part of the ownership back ?

 

So he can build DolphinTown.

 

That seems to be a bit much just for that, or is the 50M just going to be a loan ?

 

That hasn't come out yet. The reports have just stated 50M and 15 acres land.

 

Maybe he wants a part of the ownership, where.. through the years.. he'll keep buying and buying to where he becomes the majority owner again and has two stadiums nextdoor and his little town.

I doubt that. He sold the Marlins because even he felt that with the system in place that he wouldn't be able to make any money on them. That was then, who knows about now?

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So assuming Loria is still looking to contribute $190M+ this is what we have.

 

Miami-Dade- $118M

Marlins- $190M

Wayne- $50M and 15 acres

 

Total: About $358M

 

With a state rebate they could have another $60M. Not sure what Wayne plans to do with the money the team got in the early 90's to renovate DS.

 

 

why would Wayne give land and money ?

 

is he going to get a part of the ownership back ?

 

So he can build DolphinTown.

 

That seems to be a bit much just for that, or is the 50M just going to be a loan ?

 

That hasn't come out yet. The reports have just stated 50M and 15 acres land.

 

Maybe he wants a part of the ownership, where.. through the years.. he'll keep buying and buying to where he becomes the majority owner again and has two stadiums nextdoor and his little town.

is called investment. If he can charge for parking and built a restaurant/hotel complex around it, he would make a lot more than 50 mil

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So assuming Loria is still looking to contribute $190M+ this is what we have.

 

Miami-Dade- $118M

Marlins- $190M

Wayne- $50M and 15 acres

 

Total: About $358M

 

With a state rebate they could have another $60M. Not sure what Wayne plans to do with the money the team got in the early 90's to renovate DS.

 

 

why would Wayne give land and money ?

 

is he going to get a part of the ownership back ?

 

So he can build DolphinTown.

 

That seems to be a bit much just for that, or is the 50M just going to be a loan ?

 

That hasn't come out yet. The reports have just stated 50M and 15 acres land.

 

Maybe he wants a part of the ownership, where.. through the years.. he'll keep buying and buying to where he becomes the majority owner again and has two stadiums nextdoor and his little town.

is called investment. If he can charge for parking and built a restaurant/hotel complex around it, he would make a lot more than 50 mil

 

 

if you raise it to 212 million as someone said before.

 

Then you are up to 380 million. Then add to that the state rebate of 60 milion then you are up to 440 million

 

The question is would this be over 500 million at least? If MLB is really getting involved I do feel somewhat better. A 440 million is closer to that 460-480 that most likely will be needed.

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