The marlins are young and dumb, what can I say.

it's inexcusable the amount of times this year they've had a runner on 3rd with less than 2 outs and failed to drive him in when all they needed in that case was a sac fly or a ground ball to the right side of the infield, but instead they get strikeouts or weak pop-ups in those situations

Josh is looking very good offensively in the first month, and he gives the impression that things will only get better as he gets more AB's. Maybe this year, maybe not this year, but he looks really good at the plate. In the outfield, every ball hit to him is an adventure. Makes one wonder how you can play ball your whole life, reach the ML level and have great coaching, and still look inept in the field. Maybe he'll get it one day....but probably his future is in the AL as a DH.

 

 

I didn't see most of today's game, but I thought Josh was progressing nicely in the outfield. With every passing game, he seemed to be getting more comfortable out there. As far as his hitting is concerned, though, he's been more than satisfactory, I agree that he's been phenomenal. His short and compact swing make prolonged slumps unlikely, and he definitely has a knack for coming through with runners on.

I was at the game today, aside from the lack of hitting w/runners in scoring position, our defense didnt help at all, everytime we had a ground ball, heck any ball put in play we'd all collectively hold our breaths, many misplayed plays, and alot of them due to mental errors, some of the doubles they hit today, would've been held to singles if they had tried to get the ball on a hop, but instead they'd go for the circus catch and ended up letting the ball go to the wall. Another bone head play was when there was a runner on second, and the rockies bunted and Messenger tried to go to third, but threw it away, that ended up being the winnig run. How could he do that especially after the rockies had just finished making the same mistake!!!??? Its really painfull to watch these games sometimes, I mean I love these guys, but COME ON, lets stop making the SAME mistakes over and over again, its getting ridiculous already.

They continually find new ways to lose each game. It's incredible really. Never could I have imagined they'd be this bad. The box score only says 4 errors. But if you count the misplays in OF that ended up being doubles it should have been 6 or 7 errors.

what will it take for these f***ers to learn to not swing at the first pitch??? :banghead :banghead :banghead :plain

 

 

This might hurt but here's the truth:

 

 

PLAYING TIME!

Sad part is we didn't deserve to lose this game by one. We should have had more errors and we only deserved three runs, not seven. With that said I think we have a case of overmanaging on our hands.

 

i say bat hermy 3rd :thumbup

I agree, actually.

Sad part is we didn't deserve to lose this game by one. We should have had more errors and we only deserved three runs, not seven. With that said I think we have a case of overmanaging on our hands.

 

i say bat hermy 3rd :thumbup

I agree, actually.

and move Hammer to the 5 hole?... we want him to get more at bats, not less lol

Where are the coaches telling these guys to stop swinging at first pitch in key at-bats? I know Loria is cost cutting but man, how can he take this much longer?

Where are the coaches telling these guys to stop swinging at first pitch in key at-bats? I know Loria is cost cutting but man, how can he take this much longer?

 

That's exactly what I'm saying. The hitting coach needs to talk to them and tell them to be more patient and stop swinging at the first pitch.

Where are the coaches telling these guys to stop swinging at first pitch in key at-bats? I know Loria is cost cutting but man, how can he take this much longer?

 

That's exactly what I'm saying. The hitting coach needs to talk to them and tell them to be more patient and stop swinging at the first pitch.

I think what we said now was what hitting coach told player everyday............but something like this was just need time for young players,just like what Jacobs said "We have a lot of young aggressive hitters. I'm an aggressive hitter, for sure. If I see the first pitch out over the plate, I'm going to try to drive that."

I was at the game today, aside from the lack of hitting w/runners in scoring position, our defense didnt help at all, everytime we had a ground ball, heck any ball put in play we'd all collectively hold our breaths, many misplayed plays, and alot of them due to mental errors, some of the doubles they hit today, would've been held to singles if they had tried to get the ball on a hop, but instead they'd go for the circus catch and ended up letting the ball go to the wall. Another bone head play was when there was a runner on second, and the rockies bunted and Messenger tried to go to third, but threw it away, that ended up being the winnig run. How could he do that especially after the rockies had just finished making the same mistake!!!??? Its really painfull to watch these games sometimes, I mean I love these guys, but COME ON, lets stop making the SAME mistakes over and over again, its getting ridiculous already.

 

at least have two time today our outfielder let the ball roll over them,one for Reggie and another for Matt,hold for the single will got the chance for double play but for a double you will lose run in a single .............it's a big different

 

it's inexcusable the amount of times this year they've had a runner on 3rd with less than 2 outs and failed to drive him in when all they needed in that case was a sac fly or a ground ball to the right side of the infield, but instead they get strikeouts or weak pop-ups in those situations

 

they need to overcome the pressure under that kind of situation.................

 

Vargas has had 5 starts. In 1 he allowed 2 hits in 6 innings. In Chicago(his best game) he allowed 1 hit in 6 innings. The other 3 starts he was lousy. So he's had flashes of very good mixed with the bad. This type of consistent inconsistency is what we can expect all season long from all our pitchers, except Dontrelle. We have nobody else. There's no reason to think that Nolasco, Johnson, etc. would do any better. There's a player here or there that clearly is in way over their head, like Reed, and I'm sure we'll make some minor tweaks with the line-up during the season. But basically, what you see is all we got. It's gonna be a long year.

 

 

atleast Josh Willingham is turning into a real nice 4 hole hitter

 

Josh is looking very good offensively in the first month, and he gives the impression that things will only get better as he gets more AB's. Maybe this year, maybe not this year, but he looks really good at the plate. In the outfield, every ball hit to him is an adventure. Makes one wonder how you can play ball your whole life, reach the ML level and have great coaching, and still look inept in the field. Maybe he'll get it one day....but probably his future is in the AL as a DH.

I think Josh have no problem in the outfield defense,he have only one error until now............. :thumbup :thumbup :thumbup

Where are all the people who were saying the 2006 marlins were more exciting than the 2005? Still singing that tune?

I was at the game today, aside from the lack of hitting w/runners in scoring position, our defense didnt help at all, everytime we had a ground ball, heck any ball put in play we'd all collectively hold our breaths, many misplayed plays, and alot of them due to mental errors, some of the doubles they hit today, would've been held to singles if they had tried to get the ball on a hop, but instead they'd go for the circus catch and ended up letting the ball go to the wall. Another bone head play was when there was a runner on second, and the rockies bunted and Messenger tried to go to third, but threw it away, that ended up being the winnig run. How could he do that especially after the rockies had just finished making the same mistake!!!??? Its really painfull to watch these games sometimes, I mean I love these guys, but COME ON, lets stop making the SAME mistakes over and over again, its getting ridiculous already.

 

at least have two time today our outfielder let the ball roll over them,one for Reggie and another for Matt,hold for the single will got the chance for double play but for a double you will lose run in a single .............it's a big different

 

it's inexcusable the amount of times this year they've had a runner on 3rd with less than 2 outs and failed to drive him in when all they needed in that case was a sac fly or a ground ball to the right side of the infield, but instead they get strikeouts or weak pop-ups in those situations

 

 

yes but it took dare i say it REED To dirupt the infield enough for the bases to get loaded AGAIN and put us in a SCORING position THen sac a BUNT AGAIN to get cabbie over Jason didnt do anything different (EXCEPT PUT MORE CHUM IN HIS MOUTH)and hope he would look alright

they need to overcome the pressure under that kind of situation.................

 

Vargas has had 5 starts. In 1 he allowed 2 hits in 6 innings. In Chicago(his best game) he allowed 1 hit in 6 innings. The other 3 starts he was lousy. So he's had flashes of very good mixed with the bad. This type of consistent inconsistency is what we can expect all season long from all our pitchers, except Dontrelle. We have nobody else. There's no reason to think that Nolasco, Johnson, etc. would do any better. There's a player here or there that clearly is in way over their head, like Reed, and I'm sure we'll make some minor tweaks with the line-up during the season. But basically, what you see is all we got. It's gonna be a long year.

 

 

atleast Josh Willingham is turning into a real nice 4 hole hitter

 

Josh is looking very good offensively in the first month, and he gives the impression that things will only get better as he gets more AB's. Maybe this year, maybe not this year, but he looks really good at the plate. In the outfield, every ball hit to him is an adventure. Makes one wonder how you can play ball your whole life, reach the ML level and have great coaching, and still look inept in the field. Maybe he'll get it one day....but probably his future is in the AL as a DH.

I think Josh have no problem in the outfield defense,he have only one error until now............. :thumbup :thumbup :thumbup

Where are all the people who were saying the 2006 marlins were more exciting than the 2005? Still singing that tune?

 

 

Well, just like the Marlins defense of 2006, some of these fans probably made an error