I was with you until you said Kucinich :lol

 

Agreed. John Warner all the way for me!

If he goes for it, there is little doubt to me that he will be the 44th president of the United States.

 

As for Bush. I think he has been tremendous with the way he has handled foreign affairs, but domestically I haven't been that pleased with him.

 

When history looks back on his presidency, it will be far more kind and reasonable then the media and liberal hawks are now.

I was with you until you said Kucinich :lol

 

Agreed. John Warner all the way for me!

 

MARK Warner.

I was with you until you said Kucinich :lol

 

Agreed. John Warner all the way for me!

 

MARK Warner.

Sorry. I thought I screwed it up....

 

No way in hell Giuliani ever gets the nomination.

 

Pro-choice Republican=A no go.

And also, this is for WildMarlinMan2003...

 

Bill Clinton is a man of God. Committing one sin does not make a person any less of a religious person. Are the priests and bishops who molested the children any less men of god? You have no right to say that one person or another is not a man of God just for committing a sin. If so, the Pope wasn't a man of god until modern times. Last time I checked sanctioning murder and prejudice is a sin as well.

 

-Beinfest-...............

 

 

This for Beinfest.....

 

 

Clinton is a pretty bad person.....

 

1) 25 Apr 1978 Arkansas state attorney general Bill Clinton allegedly rapes 35-year-old nursing home proprietor Juanita Broaddrick at the Camelot Inn in Little Rock. Broaddrick does not come forward with her story until 1998.

 

2) May 1991 In a room at Little Rock's Excelsior Hotel, Arkansas Governor Bill Clinton exposes his penis to state employee Paula Jones and propositions her to perform fellatio. In her civil deposition, Jones will later claim to have witnessed certain "distinguishing characteristics" of the governor's genitalia, the precise nature of which soon becomes the subject of much speculation. For her trouble, Jones eventually receives an out-of-court settlement for $850,000 and a nude pictorial in Penthouse magazine.

 

3) 27 Jan 1992 Candidate Bill Clinton and Gennifer Flowers mutually accuse each other of lying about whether or not they had a 12-year adulterous relationship, between 1977 and 1989. Of course, from Clinton's 1998 testimony we know for a fact that they did. For her trouble, Flowers eventually receives an out-of-court settlement for $800,000 and a nude pictorial in Penthouse magazine.

 

4) 29 Mar 1992 Arkansas Governor and Presidential candidate Bill Clinton tells the New York Times: "When I was in England, I experimented with marijuana a time or two, and I didn't like it. I didn't inhale, and never tried it again."

 

5) 28 May 1993 After being interrupted by AIDS protesters during a speech in Philadelphia, President Clinton opines: "Let me tell you something -- Wait a minute. You know one things that's wrong with this country? Everybody gets a chance to have their fair say."

 

6) 5 May 1995 During commencement at Michigan State University, President Clinton declares: "There is nothing patriotic about hating your country, or pretending that you can love your country but despise your government."

 

7) 15 Nov 1995 Bill Clinton gets a blowjob from Monica Lewinsky in a private study in the White House while on the phone with Reps. Jim Chapman and John Tanner.

 

8) 8 Jun 1996 In his weekly radio address, President Bill Clinton reminisces: "I have vivid and painful memories of black churches being burned in my own state when I was a child." Two days later, after it became clear that no black churches were burned in Arkansas during that period, a deputy White House press secretary clarifies: "The President's recollection is that there were burnings of some black community buildings in the '50s when he was a child."

 

9) 29 Aug 1996 Dick Morris, the top political adviser to President Bill Clinton and also a married man, resigns abruptly after the Star reveals his long-term relationship with a Washington prostitute. Morris had divulged secret White House information to Sherry Rowlands, even allowing the hooker to secretly listen in on some of his telephone conversations with the President.

 

10) 8 Nov 1997 President Bill Clinton speaks at a dinner sponsored by the Human Rights Campaign, the nation's largest gay rights organization. It is the first time an American president has so addressed a gathering of sodomites.

 

11) 15 Mar 1998 White House aide Kathleen Willey claims on the trashy TV tabloid program 60 Minutes that President Bill Clinton kissed her, touched her breasts and made her touch his "no-no place." Clinton of course denies this version of events.

 

12) 9 Dec 1999 President Bill Clinton signs legislation outlawing "crush videos," which generally involve women stomping frogs, mice, or other small animals with high heels. This fetish is definitely a niche market.

 

13) 22 Oct 2003 On Crossfire, Jerry Falwell explains that God arranged for President Clinton to be elected (and re-elected) so that Americans would beg for somebody else: "I think that we needed Bill Clinton, because we turned our backs on the Lord and we needed a bad President to get our attention again. To pray for a good President. That's what I believe."

 

14) Oct 2003 During a trip to Spain, former President Bill Clinton tells reporters that British Prime Minister Tony Blair's recent heart arrhythmia didn't surprise him: "I've known about this for a long time. He told me about it quite a few years ago." For their part, Blair's people dispute the claim.

 

 

 

 

LIES and cheating on his wife many times.....he is not a true Christian. How can people believe this man?

 

 

 

Ah, yes. Jerry Falwell, that bastion of level headed thinking. Thank you for pointing this out. Before this I thought Clinton was a good president, but since The Good Reverent doesn't think so, I must have been wrong.

And also, this is for WildMarlinMan2003...

 

Bill Clinton is a man of God. Committing one sin does not make a person any less of a religious person. Are the priests and bishops who molested the children any less men of god? You have no right to say that one person or another is not a man of God just for committing a sin. If so, the Pope wasn't a man of god until modern times. Last time I checked sanctioning murder and prejudice is a sin as well.

 

-Beinfest-...............

 

 

This for Beinfest.....

 

 

Clinton is a pretty bad person.....

 

1) 25 Apr 1978 Arkansas state attorney general Bill Clinton allegedly rapes 35-year-old nursing home proprietor Juanita Broaddrick at the Camelot Inn in Little Rock. Broaddrick does not come forward with her story until 1998.

 

2) May 1991 In a room at Little Rock's Excelsior Hotel, Arkansas Governor Bill Clinton exposes his penis to state employee Paula Jones and propositions her to perform fellatio. In her civil deposition, Jones will later claim to have witnessed certain "distinguishing characteristics" of the governor's genitalia, the precise nature of which soon becomes the subject of much speculation. For her trouble, Jones eventually receives an out-of-court settlement for $850,000 and a nude pictorial in Penthouse magazine.

 

3) 27 Jan 1992 Candidate Bill Clinton and Gennifer Flowers mutually accuse each other of lying about whether or not they had a 12-year adulterous relationship, between 1977 and 1989. Of course, from Clinton's 1998 testimony we know for a fact that they did. For her trouble, Flowers eventually receives an out-of-court settlement for $800,000 and a nude pictorial in Penthouse magazine.

 

4) 29 Mar 1992 Arkansas Governor and Presidential candidate Bill Clinton tells the New York Times: "When I was in England, I experimented with marijuana a time or two, and I didn't like it. I didn't inhale, and never tried it again."

 

5) 28 May 1993 After being interrupted by AIDS protesters during a speech in Philadelphia, President Clinton opines: "Let me tell you something -- Wait a minute. You know one things that's wrong with this country? Everybody gets a chance to have their fair say."

 

6) 5 May 1995 During commencement at Michigan State University, President Clinton declares: "There is nothing patriotic about hating your country, or pretending that you can love your country but despise your government."

 

7) 15 Nov 1995 Bill Clinton gets a blowjob from Monica Lewinsky in a private study in the White House while on the phone with Reps. Jim Chapman and John Tanner.

 

8) 8 Jun 1996 In his weekly radio address, President Bill Clinton reminisces: "I have vivid and painful memories of black churches being burned in my own state when I was a child." Two days later, after it became clear that no black churches were burned in Arkansas during that period, a deputy White House press secretary clarifies: "The President's recollection is that there were burnings of some black community buildings in the '50s when he was a child."

 

9) 29 Aug 1996 Dick Morris, the top political adviser to President Bill Clinton and also a married man, resigns abruptly after the Star reveals his long-term relationship with a Washington prostitute. Morris had divulged secret White House information to Sherry Rowlands, even allowing the hooker to secretly listen in on some of his telephone conversations with the President.

 

10) 8 Nov 1997 President Bill Clinton speaks at a dinner sponsored by the Human Rights Campaign, the nation's largest gay rights organization. It is the first time an American president has so addressed a gathering of sodomites.

 

11) 15 Mar 1998 White House aide Kathleen Willey claims on the trashy TV tabloid program 60 Minutes that President Bill Clinton kissed her, touched her breasts and made her touch his "no-no place." Clinton of course denies this version of events.

 

12) 9 Dec 1999 President Bill Clinton signs legislation outlawing "crush videos," which generally involve women stomping frogs, mice, or other small animals with high heels. This fetish is definitely a niche market.

 

13) 22 Oct 2003 On Crossfire, Jerry Falwell explains that God arranged for President Clinton to be elected (and re-elected) so that Americans would beg for somebody else: "I think that we needed Bill Clinton, because we turned our backs on the Lord and we needed a bad President to get our attention again. To pray for a good President. That's what I believe."

 

14) Oct 2003 During a trip to Spain, former President Bill Clinton tells reporters that British Prime Minister Tony Blair's recent heart arrhythmia didn't surprise him: "I've known about this for a long time. He told me about it quite a few years ago." For their part, Blair's people dispute the claim.

 

 

 

 

LIES and cheating on his wife many times.....he is not a true Christian. How can people believe this man?

 

 

 

Ah, yes. Jerry Falwell, that bastion of level headed thinking. Thank you for pointing this out. Before this I thought Clinton was a good president, but since The Good Reverent doesn't think so, I must have been wrong.

 

Ah yes..The Good Rev Falwell..the man who openly praised apartheid in South Africa and openly praised Jim Crow laws in the Southern US.

 

The man who tried to use the pulpit to buy a pardon for Ollie North..major violation right there..but he got away with it.

 

The man who said gays. liberals, and women caused 9/11.

 

And the man who lost his fight to banish The First Amendment...

Enjoying the deficit?

 

Enjoy seeing jobs outsourced overseas and Georgie Powdernose rewarding those companies that do with tax breaks?

 

Enjoy paying $3 a gallon? Hey that Jabba the Hutt lookalike CEO of Exxon has to get his $400 million pension somehow, right?

 

Like having your phone tapped?

 

Love having a President who thinks he can ignore the Constitution? It's "just a goddamned piece of paper," right?

 

I will bet you listen to Limbaugh. Hey, both him and W are both substance abusers. Let me guess...you don't think. He does your thinking for you.

 

And for the record, I don't support Hillary. I am hoping that Feingold or Kucinich takes a run in '08...

 

 

You mean those tax breaks that were increased under Clinton and Bush has tried to get rid of with his "simplify the tax code" push?

 

Bush has nothing to do with $3 a gallon. Blame China and India using much more oil, and liberals for not wanting more refineries to be built.

 

My phone's not tapped. I don't make international calls.

 

At least Bush nominates judges who respect the constitution.

 

I like Kucinich too

If he goes for it, there is little doubt to me that he will be the 44th president of the United States.

 

As for Bush. I think he has been tremendous with the way he has handled foreign affairs, but domestically I haven't been that pleased with him.

 

When history looks back on his presidency, it will be far more kind and reasonable then the media and liberal hawks are now.

 

 

 

I couldn't agree with you more about Bush.

 

Guilani is money if he runs. :thumbup

Enjoying the deficit?

 

Enjoy seeing jobs outsourced overseas and Georgie Powdernose rewarding those companies that do with tax breaks?

 

Enjoy paying $3 a gallon? Hey that Jabba the Hutt lookalike CEO of Exxon has to get his $400 million pension somehow, right?

 

Like having your phone tapped?

 

Love having a President who thinks he can ignore the Constitution? It's "just a goddamned piece of paper," right?

 

I will bet you listen to Limbaugh. Hey, both him and W are both substance abusers. Let me guess...you don't think. He does your thinking for you.

 

And for the record, I don't support Hillary. I am hoping that Feingold or Kucinich takes a run in '08...

 

 

You mean those tax breaks that were increased under Clinton and Bush has tried to get rid of with his "simplify the tax code" push?

 

Bush has nothing to do with $3 a gallon. Blame China and India using much more oil, and liberals for not wanting more refineries to be built.

 

My phone's not tapped. I don't make international calls.

 

At least Bush nominates judges who respect the constitution.

 

I like Kucinich too

Respect the constitution? You honestly think thats what he was looking for in judges as opposed to predetermined rulings? You cant honestly believe this.

Respect the constitution? You honestly think thats what he was looking for in judges as opposed to predetermined rulings? You cant honestly believe this.

 

 

I'm not saying Bush isn't nominating people that favor the things he wants. That'd be inane to think. No President would ever nominate someone who didn't lean the way the wanted, no matter the talk of "no litmus test".

 

But it looks like the 2 confirmed for SCOTUS have an honest respect for the constitution (especially Roberts). Moreso than the other judges who have been issuing wacked out unconstitutional/barely constitutional rulings for 20 years.

Respect the Constitution???????

 

?Mr. President,? one aide in the meeting said. ?There is a valid case that the provisions in this law undermine the Constitution.?

 

?Stop throwing the Constitution in my face,? Bush screamed back. ?It?s just a goddamned piece of paper!?

Respect the Constitution???????

 

?Mr. President,? one aide in the meeting said. ?There is a valid case that the provisions in this law undermine the Constitution.?

 

?Stop throwing the Constitution in my face,? Bush screamed back. ?It?s just a goddamned piece of paper!?

 

 

Reading comprehension. You're response has no relation to my point. I said Bush's judicial nominees respect the constitution, but Bush himself.

Respect the Constitution???????

 

?Mr. President,? one aide in the meeting said. ?There is a valid case that the provisions in this law undermine the Constitution.?

 

?Stop throwing the Constitution in my face,? Bush screamed back. ?It?s just a goddamned piece of paper!?

 

 

Reading comprehension. You're response has no relation to my point. I said Bush's judicial nominees respect the constitution, but Bush himself.

 

But Bush himself sure as hell doesn't. Neither do his bosses, Deadeye Dick and Turdblossom Rove.

 

San Antonio, eh?

 

If I was in Texas, I'd be voting this way...

 

(listening to "The Ballad Of Charles Whitman" as I type this)

But Bush himself sure as hell doesn't. Neither do his bosses, Deadeye Dick and Turdblossom Rove.

 

San Antonio, eh?

 

If I was in Texas, I'd be voting this way...

 

(listening to "The Ballad Of Charles Whitman" as I type this)

 

 

I probably will vote for him. I sure as hell ain't voting for Perry, and Bell has a few no-can-do stances for me. Not even considering Strayhorn either (one tough grandma). Not sure if the Green Party has gotten on the ballot, but if they have they might get my vote instead of Kinky.

 

No politician from Texas deserves to be re-elected currently. I hate to admit it, but our politician's stink.

fyatuk, I disagree with you. So far Robert's leanings on executive power and his opinion in the Oregon physician suicide case suggest he is more akin to agreeing with the administration than being solely loyal to the Constitution. There is a strong argument that this is exactly what Bush wanted more than any other legal aspect. We also don't know yet with Alito, but I have to be extremely suspicious when people who don't give a damn about the Constitution are very pleased with his nomination. But they are both very intelligent judges which he deserves credit for.

 

Plus what justices have issued unconstitutional or wacked out rulings? I guess Im not sure what you mean when you say this.

 

I hope you dont mean Bush should get credit for having enough restraint not to nominate the Roy Moore's of the world. Bush's nomination of judges with can get through the process doesnt necessarily mean he respects the Constitution. It just means he is practical to a certain degree.

fyatuk, I disagree with you. So far Robert's leanings on executive power and his opinion in the Oregon physician suicide case suggest he is more akin to agreeing with the administration than being solely loyal to the Constitution. There is a strong argument that this is exactly what Bush wanted more than any other legal aspect. We also don't know yet with Alito, but I have to be extremely suspicious when people who don't give a damn about the Constitution are very pleased with his nomination. But they are both very intelligent judges which he deserves credit for.

 

Plus what justices have issued unconstitutional or wacked out rulings? I guess Im not sure what you mean when you say this.

 

I hope you dont mean Bush should get credit for having enough restraint not to nominate the Roy Moore's of the world. Bush's nomination of judges with can get through the process doesnt necessarily mean he respects the Constitution. It just means he is practical to a certain degree.

 

 

qacked out rulings:

 

Off the top of my heads there's several privacy issue cases that go way beyond the constitution, the recent interjection of federal authority into a states rights with the California medicinal marijuana case, the recent eminent domain expansion...

 

I could go find more, but looking that up will just disgust me further.

 

The rest is quite a bit opinion, so we'll just leave it at that.

But Bush himself sure as hell doesn't. Neither do his bosses, Deadeye Dick and Turdblossom Rove.

 

San Antonio, eh?

 

If I was in Texas, I'd be voting this way...

 

(listening to "The Ballad Of Charles Whitman" as I type this)

 

 

I probably will vote for him. I sure as hell ain't voting for Perry, and Bell has a few no-can-do stances for me. Not even considering Strayhorn either (one tough grandma). Not sure if the Green Party has gotten on the ballot, but if they have they might get my vote instead of Kinky.

 

No politician from Texas deserves to be re-elected currently. I hate to admit it, but our politician's stink.

 

Great candidate. While people see his outlandish ideas....if you actually take time to read his views on most issues they are amazing.

 

He has had my vote since last year.

 

 

Rick Perry is a sleezy piece of ruffage. He is actually worse than anything Bush could imagine being.

 

Charles Bell is a nobody essentially.

 

Strayhorn is a loon.

I'll give you a recent example of a wacked-out SC ruling.

 

How about last year's ruling letting companies build over public land, if the buildings bring in more tax dollars then the prior thing did? People are losing their homes in CT, I believe, because of this ruling. Ironically, one of the houses affected is owned by SC Justice David Souter, who voted in favor.

I think 95% of the thread can all agree to a simple fact when it concerns bush.

 

 

Some village in texas is missing it's idiot.

I think 95% of the thread can all agree to a simple fact when it concerns bush.

 

Some village in texas is missing it's idiot.

 

:thumbup

 

Unless you're making money off of his presidency (*cough*Haliburton*cough*)

I think 95% of the thread can all agree to a simple fact when it concerns bush.

 

 

Some village in texas is missing it's idiot.

 

 

So that was you looking at my bumper stickers

I think 95% of the thread can all agree to a simple fact when it concerns bush.

 

 

Some village in texas is missing it's idiot.

 

 

Nah, we had a surplus of idiots. We thought Washinton DC could use one

I think 95% of the thread can all agree to a simple fact when it concerns bush.

 

 

Some village in texas is missing it's idiot.

 

 

Nah, we had a surplus of idiots. We thought Washinton DC could use one

 

I was willing to buy him a one way ticket back to his village in Crawford in 2004. Too bad not enough could see through the idiocy.

 

Oh wait, that was all about religion in 2004....Thanks a bunch Radical Rightwingers!

I was willing to buy him a one way ticket back to his village in Crawford in 2004. Too bad not enough could see through the idiocy.

 

Oh wait, that was all about religion in 2004....Thanks a bunch Radical Rightwingers!

 

 

I voted for him in 04. Mainly because Kerry convinced me to vote against him. Otherwise I wouldn't have voted.

 

I still think except for Iraq, Bush had an excellent first term.

I was willing to buy him a one way ticket back to his village in Crawford in 2004. Too bad not enough could see through the idiocy.

 

Oh wait, that was all about religion in 2004....Thanks a bunch Radical Rightwingers!

 

 

I voted for him in 04. Mainly because Kerry convinced me to vote against him. Otherwise I wouldn't have voted.

 

I still think except for Iraq, Bush had an excellent first term.

 

Would you be interested in purchasing some ocean front property in Arizona too?

 

Respect the Constitution???????

 

?Mr. President,? one aide in the meeting said. ?There is a valid case that the provisions in this law undermine the Constitution.?

 

?Stop throwing the Constitution in my face,? Bush screamed back. ?It?s just a goddamned piece of paper!?

 

 

 

do you have a link to that quote? that is awesome