Ramp Posted September 26, 2003 Share Posted September 26, 2003 scarred because of TJ's stupidity.... DAMMIT JACK WHAT IS UP WITH YOU RIGHT NOW!?! although Brad still looks very strong, 127 pitches is stupid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malman Posted September 26, 2003 Share Posted September 26, 2003 Hutton & Kasper were discussing how TJ wanted to stretch both Beckett & Penny in their respective starts. I guess it has something to do with getting them ready for the post-season. Let's hope there is a method to his madness. :hat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmer_fran Posted September 26, 2003 Share Posted September 26, 2003 I don't know what they're trying to accomplish by leaving them in after their pitch count is already over 110. Regardless, great outing for Penny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramp Posted September 26, 2003 Author Share Posted September 26, 2003 yea well he stretched them out.... and if that was the plan, i guess i shouldnt go against it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Texan Posted September 26, 2003 Share Posted September 26, 2003 real pitchers can throw 120 + especially in teh playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmer_fran Posted September 26, 2003 Share Posted September 26, 2003 real pitchers can throw 120 + especially in teh playoffs. I would not have a problem with it if we weren't up by 6 runs in each game. I just don't think it's worth the risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMillan Marlins Posted September 26, 2003 Share Posted September 26, 2003 scarred because of TJ's stupidity.... DAMMIT JACK WHAT IS UP WITH YOU RIGHT NOW!?! although Brad still looks very strong, 127 pitches is stupid they will have to pitch this much in the playoffs. penny was throwing 98 in the 8th inn. u need to let the kids get a long game once in a while. today & yesterday was big lead so it waas ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramp Posted September 26, 2003 Author Share Posted September 26, 2003 it would have been a nice time to put Loop in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugg Posted September 26, 2003 Share Posted September 26, 2003 it would have been a nice time to put Loop in They need to get him as much work as possible in the Mets series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJBurnett34 Posted September 26, 2003 Share Posted September 26, 2003 Very good pitching by Penny. He threw alot of Fastballs and was throwing heat. He reached 98 in the 8th inning and he threw some Curveballs also. Not a bad Performance but the pitch count was a little high. He could of pitched into the 7th and then in the 8th Loop comes and 9th Helling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Texan Posted September 26, 2003 Share Posted September 26, 2003 never been in favor of pitch counts as a measuring stick alone for how effective a pitcher is. if my guy has thrown 100 pitchers but is still stellar....why would i take him out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramp Posted September 26, 2003 Author Share Posted September 26, 2003 i understand that but why not take him out? give him a standing O from the crowd and throw Looper or Bump or Tejera or Olsen or Phelps in there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Texan Posted September 26, 2003 Share Posted September 26, 2003 why not leave him in? he doesnt give up that jimmy jack to thome and he probably pitches the ninth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJC Posted September 26, 2003 Share Posted September 26, 2003 a win is a win is a win. WOOT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayBaby84 Posted September 26, 2003 Share Posted September 26, 2003 well our bullpen is a bit overworked. maybe mckeon wanted to use them for as few innings as possible. he may have given up that homerun towards the end but it didnt make any difference at all. The only problem i have with leaving a pitcher in too long is they can get hurt, especially penny who was hurt already. very good job tonite though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJC Posted September 26, 2003 Share Posted September 26, 2003 jack = Old Skool, back in the day if you didnt finish the game you didnt pitch well, Jack is trying to make these boys tough and cover up the only weaknes of the team ( bridge to the 9th ) It may not be right but thats the way it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Texan Posted September 26, 2003 Share Posted September 26, 2003 i like the old school approach. this coddling of pitchers and pitch counts is riduclious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJC Posted September 26, 2003 Share Posted September 26, 2003 for once I agree with you Das, I would love fot the fish to have 3 HORSES for years to come but if not this season will have to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotcorner Posted September 26, 2003 Share Posted September 26, 2003 that's really the only weakness i see in beckett's game (& this applies to Penny also), that he wants to make perfect pitches every time & nibble & strike everyone out. Instead just trusting his stuff, making them hit the ball & keeping the pitch count down. I think McKeon would really like to be able to use these guys late into games & not have to start warming up the pen in the 6th inning because Josh or Penny is already at 100 pitches.... A guy like Jason Schmidt has no problems pitching a complete game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jack1 Posted September 26, 2003 Share Posted September 26, 2003 Just curious...who do you think will not make the 25 man roster? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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