August 27, 200620 yr Call me crazy but I think we can make the playoffs....to me, the #1 is SPing and ours is excellent! 4 of our next 5 games will decide a lot as we take on all star level pitchers such as Capuano, Sheets, Mulder, and Carpenter.....it will show if we are ready this year or not! These are the top 6 wild card teams pitching rotations and ours is just as good as anyones! And this is also the reason I think the Reds will collapse down the stretch..... REDS 1-B.Arroyo (10-9) 3.52 2-A.Harang (13-9) 3.67 3-C.Mickalak (1-1) 4.76 4-E.Milton (8-7) 5.22 5-K.Lohse (3-5) 5.44 Total Record and ERA.... (35-31) 4.52 PADRES 1-W.Williams (7-4) 3.60 2-C.Young (9-5) 3.77 3-C.Hensley (7-10) 4.07 4-J.Peavy (7-12) 4.35 5-M.Thompson (3-5) 5.07 Total Record and ERA.....(33-36) 4.17 PHILLIES 1-B.Myers (9-6) 4.23 2-J.Moyer (7-12) 4.39 3-C.Hamels (6-7) 4.79 4-J.Lieber (6-9) 5.09 5-R.Wolf (3-0) 5.58 Total Record and ERA........(31-34) 4.82 GIANTS 1-J.Schmidt (10-7) 3.23 2-B.Hennessey (5-3) 3.39 3-N.Lowry (7-7) 3.75 4-M.Morris (9-11) 4.47 5-M.Cain (9-9) 4.53 Total Record and ERA.......(40-37) 3.87 D-BACKS 1-B.Webb (13-5) 2.99 2-M.Batista (10-5) 4.52 3-C.Vargas (10-8) 5.14 4-L.Hernandez (10-10) 5.19 5-E.Gonzalez (3-5) 5.32 Total Record and ERA.........(46-33) 4.63 MARLINS 1-J.Johnson (11-6) 2.90 2-A.Sanchez (5-2) 3.44 3-D.Willis (9-10) 4.01 4-S.Olsen (10-7) 4.42 5-R.Nolasco (11-8) 4.45 Total Record and ERA..........(46-33) 3.84 .............................................................................................................. And Offense......Runs Scored per game..... 1-Phillies 5.29 2-Reds 4.96 3-D-Backs 4.93 4-Marlins 4.68 5-Giants 4.59 6-Padres 4.44 ............................................................................................................ Now I'm subtracting the starters ERA from runs scored/game.....to find the top 6 teams in order...... 1-Marlins +0.84 2-Giants +0.72 3-Phillies +0.47 4-Reds +0.44 5-D-Backs+0.30 6-Padres +0.27 In otherwords, I think we have as good as chance as anyone, sure this doesn't include all IP or relief pitching. There you have it, we can win the wildcard! :thumbup
August 27, 200620 yr Author Jake Peavy can't pitch twice every 5 games. good catch....those are Hensley's stats.
August 27, 200620 yr I agree there is def. a chance. I was really down when we were swept by LA but this team continues to defy odds. I'll even go out on a limb and say we are better position today to make a move than we were b4 we were swept.
August 27, 200620 yr Try posting Loshe's stats in the NL. I love how your logic doesn't include relif pitching, when the Reds main focus at the deadline was rebuilding our bullpen.
August 27, 200620 yr Author Try posting Loshe's stats in the NL. I love how your logic doesn't include relif pitching, when the Reds main focus at the deadline was rebuilding our bullpen. look man....all relief pitching is streaky anyway..... You can slice it and dice it anyway you want but I'm gonna go out on a limb and guarantee that the Reds don't win the wild card! Sure, Hatteberg, Harang, Arroyo, Phillips and co. are all having career seasons but down the stretch I can see the Reds collapsing.....Phils, Giants, Marlins are my favorites..... We shall see.
August 27, 200620 yr You found the ERA by adding the individual ERAs together and dividing by 5.... that's pretty wrong....
August 27, 200620 yr You found the ERA by adding the individual ERAs together and dividing by 5.... that's pretty wrong.... :lol Good call. Try posting Loshe's stats in the NL. I love how your logic doesn't include relif pitching, when the Reds main focus at the deadline was rebuilding our bullpen. look man....all relief pitching is streaky anyway..... You can slice it and dice it anyway you want but I'm gonna go out on a limb and guarantee that the Reds don't win the wild card! Sure, Hatteberg, Harang, Arroyo, Phillips and co. are all having career seasons but down the stretch I can see the Reds collapsing.....Phils, Giants, Marlins are my favorites..... We shall see. Yes a team full of rookies that have never played a full 162 game schedule. That spells favorites to me.
August 27, 200620 yr Author You found the ERA by adding the individual ERAs together and dividing by 5.... that's pretty wrong.... Thats what I said....I didn't take the time to add up the IP and ERs.....however, anyone can make their calculations anyway they want but we have as good of a chance as anyone. you are like the human jinx Yeah Im a human jinx who happened to be at all 4 home 1997 World Series games and have been a fan my whole life. Obviously, there are intangibles like we have too many rookies and I didn't add bullpens but again I'm just pointing out that we are better than people give credit for.
August 27, 200620 yr this is the most amazing statistical analysis i have ever read. my brain is literally on fire right now.
August 27, 200620 yr Author this is the most amazing statistical analysis i have ever read. my brain is literally on fire right now. fire?! maybe you should check your laptop battery #....you might have a recall. It's called being bored at 2am.... :thumbup
August 27, 200620 yr Listen we got upuirselves a chance. go fish teach those sons of bitches a lesson
August 27, 200620 yr Ok so I went and found the Reds actual starting staff's ERA. Arroyo- 189.1 IP, 74 ER Harang- 181.1 IP, 74 ER Milton- 136.1 IP, 79 ER Loshe- 27.1 IP, 5 ER Michalak- 17 IP, 9 ER 551.1 IP, 241 ER 3.93 ERA Now let's compare that to the Marlins 5 starters. Willis- 179.1 IP, 80 ER Olsen- 134.1 IP, 66 ER Johnson- 133.2 IP, 43 ER Nolasco- 117.1 IP, 58 ER Sanchez- 65.1 IP, 35 ER 628 IP, 282 ER 4.04 ERA Reds 5 starters: 3.93 ERA Marlins 5 starters: 4.79 ERA Our starting 5 has thrown more innings and given up less earned runs then your starting 5. That being said, we still need to find a 5th starter because it's only a matter of time before Michalak goes downhill.
August 27, 200620 yr Author Ok so I went and found the Reds actual startin staff's ERA. Arroyo- 189.1 IP, 74 ER Harang- 181.1 IP, 74 ER Milton- 136.1 IP, 79 ER Loshe- 27.1 IP, 5 ER Michalak- 17 IP, 9 ER 551.1 IP, 241 ER 3.93 ERA Now let's compare that to the Marlins 5 starters. Willis- 179.1 IP, 80 ER Olsen- 134.1 IP, 66 ER Johnson- 133.2 IP, 43 ER Nolasco- 117.1 IP, 58 ER Sanchez- 65.1 IP, 35 ER 530 IP, 282 ER 4.79 ERA Reds 5 starters: 3.93 ERA Marlins 5 starters: 4.79 ERA Our starting 5 has thrown more innings and given up less earned runs then your starting 5. That being said, we still need to find a 5th starter because it's only a matter of time before Michalak goes downhill. LMAO.........you show only Lohse's NL numbers then you include Anibal Sanchez's numbers as a RP? What a joke man! Sanchez's ERA as a starter is like 2.00. And if you really think the Reds have better pitching than the Fish then tell me.....and I'll just give up and go laugh.
August 27, 200620 yr Now let's compare that to the Marlins 5 starters. Willis- 179.1 IP, 80 ER Olsen- 134.1 IP, 66 ER Johnson- 133.2 IP, 43 ER Nolasco- 117.1 IP, 58 ER Sanchez- 65.1 IP, 35 ER 530 IP, 282 ER 4.79 ERA Reds 5 starters: 3.93 ERA Marlins 5 starters: 4.79 ERA Our starting 5 has thrown more innings and given up less earned runs then your starting 5. That being said, we still need to find a 5th starter because it's only a matter of time before Michalak goes downhill. Now I'm no Stephen Hawking, but something tells me it's kinda hard to have a 5-starter ERA of 4.79 when none of the 5 starters in your calculation have ERAs that high. I'm giving you a place next to WildMarlinMan2003 on the math mantle.
August 27, 200620 yr Ok so I went and found the Reds actual startin staff's ERA. Arroyo- 189.1 IP, 74 ER Harang- 181.1 IP, 74 ER Milton- 136.1 IP, 79 ER Loshe- 27.1 IP, 5 ER Michalak- 17 IP, 9 ER 551.1 IP, 241 ER 3.93 ERA Now let's compare that to the Marlins 5 starters. Willis- 179.1 IP, 80 ER Olsen- 134.1 IP, 66 ER Johnson- 133.2 IP, 43 ER Nolasco- 117.1 IP, 58 ER Sanchez- 65.1 IP, 35 ER 530 IP, 282 ER 4.79 ERA Reds 5 starters: 3.93 ERA Marlins 5 starters: 4.79 ERA Our starting 5 has thrown more innings and given up less earned runs then your starting 5. That being said, we still need to find a 5th starter because it's only a matter of time before Michalak goes downhill. LMAO.........you show only Lohse's NL numbers then you include Anibal Sanchez's numbers as a RP? What a joke man! Sanchez's ERA as a starter is like 2.00. Why would I show Loshe's AL stats? Pitching in the AL and NL is a HUGE difference. I didn't know Sanches got lit up as a reliever. I just got his stats off of mlb.com. However I can assure you that the Reds' starting staff would still have a better ERA is you didn't include Sanchez's relief stats.
August 27, 200620 yr LMAO.........you show only Lohse's NL numbers then you include Anibal Sanchez's numbers as a RP? What a joke man! Sanchez's ERA as a starter is like 2.00. He came out of the pen and got shelled for 4+ innings... It was pretty much just a poor start and it doesnt matter about Lohse... he's been in the NL for like 3 weeks... he's bound to get torched at some point... it's what he does
August 27, 200620 yr Author Boog Sciambi's favorite way to judge a team.... RS/RA 1-Phillies +9 2-Padres +6 3-Giants +1 4-Marlins -10 5-D-Backs -14 6-Reds -15 LMAO.........you show only Lohse's NL numbers then you include Anibal Sanchez's numbers as a RP? What a joke man! Sanchez's ERA as a starter is like 2.00. He came out of the pen and got shelled for 4+ innings... It was pretty much just a poor start That's not a start. The game was already in hand.
August 27, 200620 yr Boog Sciambi's favorite way to judge a team.... RS/RA 1-Phillies +9 2-Padres +6 3-Giants +1 4-Marlins -10 5-D-Backs -14 6-Reds -15 LMAO.........you show only Lohse's NL numbers then you include Anibal Sanchez's numbers as a RP? What a joke man! Sanchez's ERA as a starter is like 2.00. He came out of the pen and got shelled for 4+ innings... It was pretty much just a poor start That's not a start. The game was already in hand. and he still got the crap kicked out of him....
August 27, 200620 yr Now let's compare that to the Marlins 5 starters. Willis- 179.1 IP, 80 ER Olsen- 134.1 IP, 66 ER Johnson- 133.2 IP, 43 ER Nolasco- 117.1 IP, 58 ER Sanchez- 65.1 IP, 35 ER 530 IP, 282 ER 4.79 ERA Reds 5 starters: 3.93 ERA Marlins 5 starters: 4.79 ERA Our starting 5 has thrown more innings and given up less earned runs then your starting 5. That being said, we still need to find a 5th starter because it's only a matter of time before Michalak goes downhill. Now I'm no Stephen Hawking, but something tells me it's kinda hard to have a 5-starter ERA of 4.79 when none of the 5 starters in your calculation have ERAs that high. I'm giving you a place next to WildMarlinMan2003 on the math mantle. Oh crap. I missed something. Your starters have thrown 628 innings, not 530. It's actually a 4.04 ERA. That being said, the Reds still have a better ERA.
August 27, 200620 yr Now let's compare that to the Marlins 5 starters. Willis- 179.1 IP, 80 ER Olsen- 134.1 IP, 66 ER Johnson- 133.2 IP, 43 ER Nolasco- 117.1 IP, 58 ER Sanchez- 65.1 IP, 35 ER 530 IP, 282 ER 4.79 ERA Reds 5 starters: 3.93 ERA Marlins 5 starters: 4.79 ERA Our starting 5 has thrown more innings and given up less earned runs then your starting 5. That being said, we still need to find a 5th starter because it's only a matter of time before Michalak goes downhill. Now I'm no Stephen Hawking, but something tells me it's kinda hard to have a 5-starter ERA of 4.79 when none of the 5 starters in your calculation have ERAs that high. I'm giving you a place next to WildMarlinMan2003 on the math mantle. Oh crap. I missed something. Your starters have thrown 628 innings, not 530. It's actually a 4.04 ERA. That being said, the Reds still have a better ERA. you cant really compare them imo... the Marlins have had these 5 as starters for a while now, as the Reds just put Lohse and Michalak in the rotation
August 27, 200620 yr Now let's compare that to the Marlins 5 starters. Willis- 179.1 IP, 80 ER Olsen- 134.1 IP, 66 ER Johnson- 133.2 IP, 43 ER Nolasco- 117.1 IP, 58 ER Sanchez- 65.1 IP, 35 ER 530 IP, 282 ER 4.79 ERA Reds 5 starters: 3.93 ERA Marlins 5 starters: 4.79 ERA Our starting 5 has thrown more innings and given up less earned runs then your starting 5. That being said, we still need to find a 5th starter because it's only a matter of time before Michalak goes downhill. Now I'm no Stephen Hawking, but something tells me it's kinda hard to have a 5-starter ERA of 4.79 when none of the 5 starters in your calculation have ERAs that high. I'm giving you a place next to WildMarlinMan2003 on the math mantle. Oh crap. I missed something. Your starters have thrown 628 innings, not 530. It's actually a 4.04 ERA. That being said, the Reds still have a better ERA. you cant really compare them imo... the Marlins have had these 5 as starters for a while now, as the Reds just put Lohse and Michalak in the rotation Yeah I know, but it's a much better way then adding up the 5 ERA's and dividing them by 5. I think Loshe will pitch pretty well (not this well ovbiously), but like I said before it's only a matter of time before Michalak gets pounded on. I'm not saying we have a better starting 5 then you, but how someone comes to the conclusion that a team leading the race for 5 months will all of a sudden collapse and a team full of rookies (albeit VERY good rookies) who have never played a full season will finish strong is beyond me. I would think it's the other way around.
August 27, 200620 yr That being said, the Reds still have a better ERA. No, actually, the Marlins have a better ERA.
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