June 20, 200719 yr The only way the D-Train is winning 16+ games this season is if he gets traded to the Yankees or Red Sox. He's now 7-6 with a 4.90 ERA and a 1.64 WHIP and those numbers are pathetic. You know it's bad when Steve Trachsel is pitching better than the D-Train this season. 113 hits and 44 walks in 97.1 innings is downright awful. I think he's hurting his trade value big-time and the Marlins might get stuck paying him the big bucks for bad production.
June 20, 200719 yr He hasn't hurt his trade value. He's still valuable. He can still get us a bounty.
June 20, 200719 yr Never really understood the whole ban bet thing on MB, but I guess tradition is tradition. That is not to say I am in on this, also...
June 20, 200719 yr I'd like to see some of the locals take up a "Slap Bet" ala How I Met Your Mother.
June 20, 200719 yr Here are Dontrelle's graphs and tell me 2005 doesnt scream out fluke. I'd LOVE to get Wiley back. Even though I realize his tenure here represents a small sample size, I really think that he was instrumental in Dontrelle's success that year. Long before anyone reported for spring training, Wiley was watching film on Dontrelle and trying to figure out how to help him pitch as consistently as possible. He worked very hard with Dontrelle, preaching repeatability of his windup and throwing strikes. It's no accident how low his WHIP and BB/9 scores were.
June 20, 200719 yr for what it's worth FL, Wiley is at every Marlins game Really? Interesting. Is he working with the club on some level or is it personal interest? And how long has that been the case? :mischief2
June 20, 200719 yr for what it's worth FL, Wiley is at every Marlins game Really? Interesting. Is he working with the club on some level or is it personal interest? And how long has that been the case? :mischief2 He works for the Rockies as a special assistant to the GM. He hasn't missed more than 5 games this year. Swifty sits right next to him
June 20, 200719 yr Never really understood the whole ban bet thing on MB, but I guess tradition is tradition. That is not to say I am in on this, also... What side? That was a little convoluted. To make it clear, I'd never do a ban bet. It never made sense to me. But I understand it is some kind of MB.com tradition. How did it start, any ways?
June 20, 200719 yr Never really understood the whole ban bet thing on MB, but I guess tradition is tradition. That is not to say I am in on this, also... What side? That was a little convoluted. To make it clear, I'd never do a ban bet. It never made sense to me. But I understand it is some kind of MB.com tradition. How did it start, any ways? Wanna do a ban bet, betting you that I can get you to do a ban bet?
June 20, 200719 yr Never really understood the whole ban bet thing on MB, but I guess tradition is tradition. That is not to say I am in on this, also... What side? That was a little convoluted. To make it clear, I'd never do a ban bet. It never made sense to me. But I understand it is some kind of MB.com tradition. How did it start, any ways? Wanna do a ban bet, betting you that I can get you to do a ban bet? That would be an easy way to knock out some CBL competition. :mischief2
June 20, 200719 yr Never really understood the whole ban bet thing on MB, but I guess tradition is tradition. That is not to say I am in on this, also... What side? That was a little convoluted. To make it clear, I'd never do a ban bet. It never made sense to me. But I understand it is some kind of MB.com tradition. How did it start, any ways? Wanna do a ban bet, betting you that I can get you to do a ban bet? That would be an easy way to knock out some CBL competition. :mischief2 All you have to do is accept... :whistle
June 20, 200719 yr Never really understood the whole ban bet thing on MB, but I guess tradition is tradition. That is not to say I am in on this, also... What side? That was a little convoluted. To make it clear, I'd never do a ban bet. It never made sense to me. But I understand it is some kind of MB.com tradition. How did it start, any ways? Wanna do a ban bet, betting you that I can get you to do a ban bet? That would be an easy way to knock out some CBL competition. :mischief2 All you have to do is accept... :whistle Well obviously this bet wouldn't count toward the ban bet. I'm not a complete fool, despite all evidence to the contrary.
June 20, 200719 yr :lol Shucks. Kill to have Big Tex back. All I am going to say. If I only knew who that was.
June 20, 200719 yr Josh Beckett. I tagged him with that like 2 years ago and use it every time I talk about him. In fact, I cant remember the last time I actually typed "Josh Beckett".
June 20, 200719 yr He hasn't hurt his trade value. He's still valuable. He can still get us a bounty. That's why we trade him soon. Willis is an average pitcher who most people tremendously overvalue, believing that his rookie season and 2005 were true Dontrelle, and the more bad outings and bad years he has, the more people are going to realize that Dontrelle is really the plus 4 era pitcher he's been almost every year he's been in the majors, and the 20 win sub 3 ERA season was the fluke. I say let's make a major deal and get some serious returns before his stock plummets, which will happen before too long.
June 20, 200719 yr Josh Beckett. I tagged him with that like 2 years ago and use it every time I talk about him. In fact, I cant remember the last time I actually typed "Josh Beckett". His nickname is "blister" but yeah, i'd love to have him back too.
June 20, 200719 yr Dontrelle needs to be traded before his value goes down. 2005 was obviously a fluke and the past two years haven't been good for him. We will be better off with whoever we get in a trade for him, and after we have Anibal and Nolasco back we don't even need another starting pitcher, so we could trade him for a center fielder or catcher.....or possibly a great pitcher like Josh Beckett who is much better than him, but I could possibly see the Red Sox making that trade since Willis' value is still relatively high right now. But that will change if Beinfest doesn't make the trade soon, and Dontrelle continues to pitch poorly.....then he won't have the same value and a trade wouldn't make as much sense.
June 20, 200719 yr Dontrelle needs to be traded before his value goes down. 2005 was obviously a fluke and the past two years haven't been good for him. We will be better off with whoever we get in a trade for him, and after we have Anibal and Nolasco back we don't even need another starting pitcher, so we could trade him for a center fielder or catcher.....or possibly a great pitcher like Josh Beckett who is much better than him, but I could possibly see the Red Sox making that trade since Willis' value is still relatively high right now. But that will change if Beinfest doesn't make the trade soon, and Dontrelle continues to pitch poorly.....then he won't have the same value and a trade wouldn't make as much sense. Dontrelle may be overrated, but Nolasco is not somebody that I would count on to replace him. Dontrelle is a 4 ERA pitcher, but I suspect that Nolasco will be above 5.
June 20, 200719 yr A team with Nolasco and a great CF or catcher is better than a team with Dontrelle and Olivo/Amezaga/Abercrombie. It would be better though to pick up a great pitcher like Josh Beckett or someone else like that (maybe even a younger player) in exchange for him, so our staff will be getting better with the trade instead of worse.
June 20, 200719 yr A team with Nolasco and a great CF or catcher is better than a team with Dontrelle and Olivo/Amezaga/Abercrombie. what great CF are we getting for Willis? anyway, go get Dukes for pennies on the dollar and keep Willis
June 20, 200719 yr A team with Nolasco and a great CF or catcher is better than a team with Dontrelle and Olivo/Amezaga/Abercrombie. It would be better though to pick up a great pitcher like Josh Beckett or someone else like that (maybe even a younger player) in exchange for him, so our staff will be getting better with the trade instead of worse. I fail to see how our offense is what is holding us back this year. I'm not sure where we currently rank, but I know it is very high, whereas our pitching is atrocious. So how does replacing a pitcher with a worse one while improving the offense really improve the team? I suspect that if a Dontrelle trade is made, at least one pitching prospect would be brought in return. Not the centerpiece, but a second or third part. And I don't see how Amezaga batting leadoff, where he has to be hitting near .290 (it was at .286 before tonights game) is really crippling us. Sure, we can still do better, but he isn't causing the starting pitchers to blow games for us.
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