MRMarlin93 Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 As many as 20 Florida State football players will be suspended from playing against Kentucky in the Dec. 31 Gaylord Hotels Music City Bowl, as well as the first three games of the 2008 season, for their roles in an alleged cheating scandal involving an Internet-based course, a source with knowledge of the situation said Tuesday morning. Florida State officials are expected to announce the results of the investigation this week. The source said university officials determined Monday night the exact number of football players who will be suspended. The university isn't expected to immediately reveal the identities of the student-athletes involved in the alleged cheating. "If the players fight the suspensions, they'll risk losing all of their eligibility," a source with knowledge of the situation said Tuesday morning. The source said student-athletes in several other sports also were implicated in the cheating scandal. The investigation already has led to the resignations of two academic assistance employees who worked with FSU student-athletes. The school revealed in September that as many as 23 student-athletes were given answers before taking tests over the Internet. Further investigations revealed additional student-athletes were involved in the cheating, according to the source. The school's investigation found that a tutor gave students answers while they were taking tests and filled in answers on quizzes and typed papers for students. Florida State president T.K. Wetherell, a former Seminoles football player, reported the initial findings in a letter to the NCAA in September. Wetherell ordered an investigation by the university's Office of Audit Services in May after receiving information an athletics department tutor had directed one athlete to take an online quiz for another athlete and then provided the answers. The tutor implicated in the audit told investigators he had been providing students with answers for the test since the fall of 2006, according to a university report. The school announced in October that athletics director Dave Hart Jr. will resign Dec. 31. Wetherell appointed State Rep. William "Bill" Proctor interim athletics director. Proctor also is a former FSU football player. The school announced last week that longtime football coach Bobby Bowden had agreed to a one-year contract extension through the 2008 season that will pay him at least $1.98 million. Bowden, who is in his 32nd season at the school, is major college football's all-time winningest coach with 373 career victories. Florida State also designated offensive coordinator Jimbo Fisher as Bowden's eventual successor. Fisher's new contract calls for him to replace Bowden by the end of the 2010 season. If Fisher isn't named FSU's new coach by then, the school's booster organization would owe him $2.5 million. Under the terms of the new contract, Fisher would owe Seminoles boosters $2.5 million if he leaves the school before the end of the 2010 season. The Seminoles struggled for the fourth consecutive season in 2007, finishing 7-5 overall, 4-4 in ACC play. It is the fourth consecutive season they failed to win 10 games, after winning at least 10 games in 14 consecutive seasons, from 1987 to 2000. Mark Schlabach is a college football reporter for ESPN.com. Information from the Associated Press was used in this report. link When will FSU players learn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolesmarlins Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 As many as 20 Florida State football players will be suspended from playing against Kentucky in the Dec. 31 Gaylord Hotels Music City Bowl, as well as the first three games of the 2008 season, for their roles in an alleged cheating scandal involving an Internet-based course, a source with knowledge of the situation said Tuesday morning. Florida State officials are expected to announce the results of the investigation this week. The source said university officials determined Monday night the exact number of football players who will be suspended. The university isn't expected to immediately reveal the identities of the student-athletes involved in the alleged cheating. "If the players fight the suspensions, they'll risk losing all of their eligibility," a source with knowledge of the situation said Tuesday morning. The source said student-athletes in several other sports also were implicated in the cheating scandal. The investigation already has led to the resignations of two academic assistance employees who worked with FSU student-athletes. The school revealed in September that as many as 23 student-athletes were given answers before taking tests over the Internet. Further investigations revealed additional student-athletes were involved in the cheating, according to the source. The school's investigation found that a tutor gave students answers while they were taking tests and filled in answers on quizzes and typed papers for students. Florida State president T.K. Wetherell, a former Seminoles football player, reported the initial findings in a letter to the NCAA in September. Wetherell ordered an investigation by the university's Office of Audit Services in May after receiving information an athletics department tutor had directed one athlete to take an online quiz for another athlete and then provided the answers. The tutor implicated in the audit told investigators he had been providing students with answers for the test since the fall of 2006, according to a university report. The school announced in October that athletics director Dave Hart Jr. will resign Dec. 31. Wetherell appointed State Rep. William "Bill" Proctor interim athletics director. Proctor also is a former FSU football player. The school announced last week that longtime football coach Bobby Bowden had agreed to a one-year contract extension through the 2008 season that will pay him at least $1.98 million. Bowden, who is in his 32nd season at the school, is major college football's all-time winningest coach with 373 career victories. Florida State also designated offensive coordinator Jimbo Fisher as Bowden's eventual successor. Fisher's new contract calls for him to replace Bowden by the end of the 2010 season. If Fisher isn't named FSU's new coach by then, the school's booster organization would owe him $2.5 million. Under the terms of the new contract, Fisher would owe Seminoles boosters $2.5 million if he leaves the school before the end of the 2010 season. The Seminoles struggled for the fourth consecutive season in 2007, finishing 7-5 overall, 4-4 in ACC play. It is the fourth consecutive season they failed to win 10 games, after winning at least 10 games in 14 consecutive seasons, from 1987 to 2000. Mark Schlabach is a college football reporter for ESPN.com. Information from the Associated Press was used in this report. link When will FSU players learn? its not anywhere as near as bad as the crap you lizards pulled in the 80s. we'll be fine... we probably are screwed against kentucky, but we have two 1-aa teams and western carolina (i think western carolina...) on our schedule next year... just bump them up to the beginning of the season. worst case scenario we have to play colorado at home with a depleted roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRMarlin93 Posted December 18, 2007 Author Share Posted December 18, 2007 Problem is that this behavior is spanning over two decades. As much as I don't like FSU, It would be nice if they can get their students athletes under control so they can bring less damage to their prestige. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolesmarlins Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 Problem is that this behavior is spanning over two decades. As much as I don't like FSU, It would be nice if they can get their students athletes under control so they can bring less damage to their prestige. actually this is the first controversy like this in MANY years, probably ever for fsu. all of the other stuff (arrests and whatnot) is individual... and that kind of stuff happens everywhere, just as frequently as uf. at least we dont make any recruiting violations like some other schools... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureGM Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 Yeah. In the past the other incidents were individual. Now unfortunately they are playing like a team in the wrong field.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 I'm in classes with a couple of players (including Drew), and I know for a fact that they cheat in-class, so I can't imagine what goes on in online courses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRMarlin93 Posted December 18, 2007 Author Share Posted December 18, 2007 Problem is that this behavior is spanning over two decades. As much as I don't like FSU, It would be nice if they can get their students athletes under control so they can bring less damage to their prestige. actually this is the first controversy like this in MANY years, probably ever for fsu. all of the other stuff (arrests and whatnot) is individual... and that kind of stuff happens everywhere, just as frequently as uf. at least we dont make any recruiting violations like some other schools... I'm talking about everything not just group violations. But UF doesn't have the same rep as an FSU. I do agree that bad things happen at every school though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeefWillingham Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 When will FSU players learn? Seriously man! The good thing is that no UF student has ever cheated on an online course. Funny, I was just having a conversation with a UF alum earlier today about how ridiculous it is when stupid f*** UF fans say things exactly like "When will FSU players learn?".... Hey, ummmmm, go to UF and see how many students cheat on online courses, Id say about 88% of the ones that take online courses, the other 12% have no friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeefWillingham Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 Problem is that this behavior is spanning over two decades. As much as I don't like FSU, It would be nice if they can get their students athletes under control so they can bring less damage to their prestige. If I put any sort of list of UF players in legal troubles spanning the last two decades youd fall asleep before you finish reading, you are retarded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mephisto Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 cheating in academics is only wrong if you get caught Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelmsE Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 20 players is quite a bit though all things considered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 20 players is quite a bit though all things considered. Naa, they all used the same source obviously, so it makes it easier to catch them. I'm sure some schools have a majority of their athletes cheating in some manner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeefWillingham Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 20 players is quite a bit though all things considered. Naa, they all used the same source obviously, so it makes it easier to catch them. I'm sure some schools have a majority of their athletes cheating in some manner. 1) FSU turned themelves in a while ago 2) A some schools have a majority of all their students cheating in some manner 3) It will be 23 players, 11 with starting experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinFan10 Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 cheating in academics is only wrong if you get caught This. They got caught, too bad for them. The same happens everywhere, but those players don't get caught. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyBowden Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 20 players is quite a bit though all things considered. Naa, they all used the same source obviously, so it makes it easier to catch them. I'm sure some schools have a majority of their athletes cheating in some manner. 1) FSU turned themelves in a while ago 2) A some schools have a majority of all their students cheating in some manner 3) It will be 23 players, 11 with starting experience. Beef, warchant is being a real bitch about listing players that are supposedly involved. Can you fill me in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
furcalchick Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 how do you cheat in an internet class? only thing i can think about is hacking the system or collaborating during exams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeFish Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 FSU has been really bitchy about auditing everything this year. Mass e-mails to everyone about things. Mass warnings out of the blue. Big time nazi action in Tally this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeefWillingham Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 how do you cheat in an internet class? only thing i can think about is hacking the system or collaborating during exams. You're not very smart though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelmsE Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 Any idea who FSU plays the first 3 games next season? I'm pretty sure the Buffs head down to Florida early season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeefWillingham Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 FSU coaches can at least continue preparing for Kentucky knowing that top playmakers Preston Parker, Antone Smith, Greg Carr and starting quarterback Drew Weatherford are among those not affected by the case. The defense is expected to be hit hard by the losses but leading tacklers Derek Nicholson and Geno Hayes were not on the list shared by sources on Tuesday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolesmarlins Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 20 players is quite a bit though all things considered. Naa, they all used the same source obviously, so it makes it easier to catch them. I'm sure some schools have a majority of their athletes cheating in some manner. 1) FSU turned themelves in a while ago 2) A some schools have a majority of all their students cheating in some manner 3) It will be 23 players, 11 with starting experience. Beef, warchant is being a real bitch about listing players that are supposedly involved. Can you fill me in? privacy laws, nobody can reveal the names just yet. be patient Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramp Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 FSU coaches can at least continue preparing for Kentucky knowing that top playmakers Preston Parker, Antone Smith, Greg Carr and starting quarterback Drew Weatherford are among those not affected by the case. The defense is expected to be hit hard by the losses but leading tacklers Derek Nicholson and Geno Hayes were not on the list shared by sources on Tuesday. yay preston! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolesmarlins Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 Any idea who FSU plays the first 3 games next season? I'm pretty sure the Buffs head down to Florida early season. yes, you will get your asses handed to you i believe the third weekend in sept... dont forget your lube! (hehe, i kid...) because nobody in 1a would want to schedule only one game at doak, we are going to be scheduling two 1-aa teams next year. both of those games will be played at the beginning of the season. so, the damage will probably be limited to our bowl game against kentucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolesmarlins Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 FSU coaches can at least continue preparing for Kentucky knowing that top playmakers Preston Parker, Antone Smith, Greg Carr and starting quarterback Drew Weatherford are among those not affected by the case. The defense is expected to be hit hard by the losses but leading tacklers Derek Nicholson and Geno Hayes were not on the list shared by sources on Tuesday. yay preston! ahhh thank god. at least we have a chance of scoring... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolesmarlins Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 Problem is that this behavior is spanning over two decades. As much as I don't like FSU, It would be nice if they can get their students athletes under control so they can bring less damage to their prestige. actually this is the first controversy like this in MANY years, probably ever for fsu. all of the other stuff (arrests and whatnot) is individual... and that kind of stuff happens everywhere, just as frequently as uf. at least we dont make any recruiting violations like some other schools... I'm talking about everything not just group violations. But UF doesn't have the same rep as an FSU. I do agree that bad things happen at every school though. the only people who think that the gators dont have the same rep as fsu/um are... the gators. get over yourselves. uf: the arrogance of the yankees with the winning tradition of the cubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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