December 19, 200718 yr I like the MIAMI SHARKS name. The Miami Fusion, let's face it was an awful team name. And nothing personal to all the latin Americans here, but the team name SHOULD not be in Spanish. This is a USA professional league. BOCA MIAMI ? What the heck is that? Miami Mouth? I don't get it. Bad choice for a name. Picture the national media trying to figure it out. Miami United? Isnt there already a DC United team in MLS? SHARKS is awesome. Miami is an extension of S.America ... I like Atletico Miami ... i think it works too... most likely the name will be miami fc though. i also like sharks... keeps the south florida fish theme going and its not an overused name. And theres a sh*t load of sharks. I just dont like Miami FC but they are planning on buying it. As long as we have a team, dont care
December 20, 200718 yr There saying 2011. Philly and St. Louis are coming before us. Would the soccer stadium have a retractable roof. The name needs to be a Latin one since the people going to the games are mostly not gonna be gringos. Boca USA would make some fans not support the team since their River Plate fans. And in my vast experience with Argentineans in this country, most of them are River fans. Miami Sharks or Atletico Miami in my opinion. If you want a European name, Bayern Miami i know philly is definately before us... they'll probably come into the league in 2009 with seattle or 2010. but im not so certain st louis is ahead of us on the list. what does st. louis have that we dont? we already have (well, in a few days/weeks) a stadium deal and potential owners. i know st. louis has some sort of a plan for a sss in the suburbs, but i have no idea how far along that is. yeah, st. louis is a big soccer city, but the miami market has far more potential. also, if the stadium is going to be finished by 2011 nobody is going to want it to sit without a tenant for a year. st. louis will get one pretty soon, but i would not be suprised if we get ours first. and yeah, being associated with boca might piss some local river fans off, but by that logic chivas usa should be struggling to get fans because of all of the club america supporters out in la. the benefits of being associated (or owned) by the boca juniors far outweigh the burdens. athletico miami sounds cool. i like miami fc, its simple and classic. im not in love with the boca juniors combos, but i could learn to live with them. miami sharks sounds great too. i always thought inter miami would sound pretty good... full name being miami international fc. maybe they can form a partnership with inter milan.
December 20, 200718 yr The MLS said last week that theres at least 2 teams ahead of us. Maybe all that changed yesterday
December 20, 200718 yr The MLS said last week that theres at least 2 teams ahead of us. Maybe all that changed yesterday yeah, there is two... seattle and philly.
December 20, 200718 yr Miami United Just for you Juanky. eh, i dont know about united. it just sounds too... ... british? this is miami, think south american/spain influence, not england.
December 20, 200718 yr The MLS said last week that theres at least 2 teams ahead of us. Maybe all that changed yesterday yeah, there is two... seattle and philly. Not including Seattle since theyre already confirmed
December 20, 200718 yr What about the Miami Generals? Los Generales de Miami! capefish i would like to see how their going have two park next each other .i be wait for drawing how going look
December 20, 200718 yr St. louis is ahead of philly since they are close stadium deal and a strong ownership groupl, and philly is struggling to get funding for the deal. Those are the two teams probably ahead of us.
December 20, 200718 yr St. louis is ahead of philly since they are close stadium deal and a strong ownership groupl, and philly is struggling to get funding for the deal. Those are the two teams probably ahead of us. philly is waiting on the pennsylvania state legislature to give them the stadium funding. if that bill fails, then they drop on the list. it is expected to pass, but as we know with our own dealings with our legislature, anything can happen. also, remember that kansas city is struggling. they always have been one of the lowest supported teams in the mls... a couple of die hards but thats it. when lamar hunt owned the team there was no chance of them moving no matter how poorly they drew, but hunt just recently passed away. kc wants a new stadium... they are even moving out of arrowhead next year to play in an independent league baseball stadium with a 10,000 seat capacity. st. louis is relatively close to kc, if they dont get the stadium that they want i definately see them moving to the other side of missouri. mls may be banking on that... they move kc to st. louis and bring miami in as an expansion team.
December 20, 200718 yr I went to a baseball forum and a soccer discussion broke out..... haha all kidding aside, the MLS in Fort Lauderdale fell flat on its face, The owner sunk like 50 million into new stadium and the team, at the time was huge investment for MLS. The issue they commonly state was the lack of corporate support,overall revenue and attendance. Also take into consideration that this all happened at the lowest point in MLS history. Soccer got a big boost in 2002 when the US Mens National team did surprisingly well at the WC. So Soccer could most likely survive in Miami if its given an actual chance, ie good location, good community support. The climate is good right now for soccer as it seems to be gaining mainstream acceptance.
December 20, 200718 yr KC just got a new stadium for 18,500 in a mega stadium village type set up, they will be moving in a couple of years, that was one of the conditions mls placed on the new owners coming in.
December 20, 200718 yr I went to a baseball forum and a soccer discussion broke out..... haha all kidding aside, the MLS in Fort Lauderdale fell flat on its face, The owner sunk like 50 million into new stadium and the team, at the time was huge investment for MLS. The issue they commonly state was the lack of corporate support,overall revenue and attendance. Also take into consideration that this all happened at the lowest point in MLS history. Soccer got a big boost in 2002 when the US Mens National team did surprisingly well at the WC. So Soccer could most likely survive in Miami if its given an actual chance, ie good location, good community support. The climate is good right now for soccer as it seems to be gaining mainstream acceptance. the fusion failed because the mls had to downsize (talent pool was very dilluted and the league wasnt making much money) and axing the two florida teams was the most convenient option. it did not appear that the fusion would ever get a sss, and, like you said, corporate sponsorship was a problem. they actually drew kinda well... from what i understand they were middle of the road. they were also competitive at the end. another big problem (probably the biggest... made the franchise a joke from the start) was that they marketed them for miami but played in ft. lauderdale. i think they would have done alot better had they played in the orange bowl as originally planned. but yes, i agree, it should succeed. i predict it actually becomes one of the biggest teams.
December 20, 200718 yr KC just got a new stadium for 18,500 in a mega stadium village type set up, they will be moving in a couple of years, that was one of the conditions mls placed on the new owners coming in. really? well i stand corrected. good for them. you got a link?
December 20, 200718 yr Brigada 2506 i dont get it... explain http://www.brigada2506.com/ oh ok... not a horrible idea, but nah... kinda awkward.
December 20, 200718 yr KC just got a new stadium for 18,500 in a mega stadium village type set up, they will be moving in a couple of years, that was one of the conditions mls placed on the new owners coming in. really? well i stand corrected. good for them. you got a link? http://web.mlsnet.com/news/team_news.jsp?y...p&team=t105 on the fusion they actually avg over 10k at a time when the mls was a total joke
December 20, 200718 yr KC just got a new stadium for 18,500 in a mega stadium village type set up, they will be moving in a couple of years, that was one of the conditions mls placed on the new owners coming in. really? well i stand corrected. good for them. you got a link? http://web.mlsnet.com/news/team_news.jsp?y...p&team=t105 on the fusion they actually avg over 10k at a time when the mls was a total joke thanks yeah, i was pretty shocked when the fusion went bye bye. didnt see it coming.
December 20, 200718 yr Just because they had decent attendance does not mean that they were profitable. I remember the owner at the time said he basically could not afford to hold the team any longer. Just like the WNBA. The Miami Sol had the highest attendance figures in the league; in their last season, yet the Miami Heat (parent team) was losing money on the franchise and opted to close it down. I hope MLS soccer does come to Miami, specifically the OB area.
December 20, 200718 yr Just because they had decent attendance does not mean that they were profitable. I remember the owner at the time said he basically could not afford to hold the team any longer. Just like the WNBA. The Miami Sol had the highest attendance figures in the league; in their last season, yet the Miami Heat (parent team) was losing money on the franchise and opted to close it down. I hope MLS soccer does come to Miami, specifically the OB area. We're not saying they were, just that they didnt fail here because of lack of fan support. Close to the Miami Downtown they'll get the corporate support they lacked last time around, and like someone said before, mls has gained acceptance in the mainstream since then.
December 20, 200718 yr I went to a baseball forum and a soccer discussion broke out..... haha all kidding aside, the MLS in Fort Lauderdale fell flat on its face, The owner sunk like 50 million into new stadium and the team, at the time was huge investment for MLS. The issue they commonly state was the lack of corporate support,overall revenue and attendance. Also take into consideration that this all happened at the lowest point in MLS history. Soccer got a big boost in 2002 when the US Mens National team did surprisingly well at the WC. So Soccer could most likely survive in Miami if its given an actual chance, ie good location, good community support. The climate is good right now for soccer as it seems to be gaining mainstream acceptance. the fusion failed because the mls had to downsize (talent pool was very dilluted and the league wasnt making much money) and axing the two florida teams was the most convenient option. it did not appear that the fusion would ever get a sss, and, like you said, corporate sponsorship was a problem. they actually drew kinda well... from what i understand they were middle of the road. they were also competitive at the end. another big problem (probably the biggest... made the franchise a joke from the start) was that they marketed them for miami but played in ft. lauderdale. i think they would have done alot better had they played in the orange bowl as originally planned. but yes, i agree, it should succeed. i predict it actually becomes one of the biggest teams. Just a question was the intial investment into Lockhart Stadium desinged to be a temporary fix or intial invesment into a long term answer?
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