May 6, 200818 yr Author How about: Kurt Ojala Tommy Phelps Ryan Bowen Mark Hutton Reid Cornelius That's a rotation. Ahhh the days when we had a bad general manager.I think i might cry.
May 6, 200818 yr I miss our elite pitching. Beckett Penny Burnett Pavano Willis. Those last too aren't elite anymore, and you can make the argument that Beckett was great but not elite when he was here. Ah but they all were at one point or another. Im not saying I would take that back (I would really...) though it was just such a kickass rotation. And when I say elite I was saying how our rotation from top to bottom was always good, very good actually.
May 6, 200818 yr How about: Kurt Ojala Tommy Phelps Ryan Bowen Mark Hutton Reid Cornelius That's a rotation. Ahhh the days when we had a bad general manager.I think i might cry. That bad general manager brought us 1997 and much of 2003.
May 6, 200818 yr How about: Kurt Ojala Tommy Phelps Ryan Bowen Mark Hutton Reid Cornelius That's a rotation. Ahhh the days when we had a bad general manager.I think i might cry. Dave Dombrowski is a bad GM now? Wow. It must have been him who added that ugly blue tarp in centerfield...
May 6, 200818 yr Author How about: Kurt Ojala Tommy Phelps Ryan Bowen Mark Hutton Reid Cornelius That's a rotation. Ahhh the days when we had a bad general manager.I think i might cry. Dave Dombrowski is a bad GM now? Wow. It must have been him who added that ugly blue tarp in centerfield... From 1993 through 2002 we were terrible, with the exception of 97.We were never consistent winners and only made the playoffs once.I guess the likes of Huizenga deserves most blame......Finances another blame. :mischief
May 6, 200818 yr How about: Kurt Ojala Tommy Phelps Ryan Bowen Mark Hutton Reid Cornelius That's a rotation. Ahhh the days when we had a bad general manager.I think i might cry. Dave Dombrowski is a bad GM now? Wow. It must have been him who added that ugly blue tarp in centerfield... From 1993 through 2002 we were terrible, with the exception of 97.We were never consistent winners and only made the playoffs once.I guess the likes of Huizenga deserves most blame......Finances another blame. :mischief We started with nothing as an expansion team. Every year from 93, we got better, moving up one position in the division (6th in 93, 5th in 94 with the realignment, 4th in 95, 3rd in 96, 2nd in 97). Good teams don't come together out of nowhere. He built the team from the ground up when he put together a team that could be a consistent winner, Wayne-o tore it down. After that, he started putting it back together, and was a big reason we had a winning team in 2003. Dave was a great GM and still is.
May 6, 200818 yr Author How about: Kurt Ojala Tommy Phelps Ryan Bowen Mark Hutton Reid Cornelius That's a rotation. Ahhh the days when we had a bad general manager.I think i might cry. Dave Dombrowski is a bad GM now? Wow. It must have been him who added that ugly blue tarp in centerfield... From 1993 through 2002 we were terrible, with the exception of 97.We were never consistent winners and only made the playoffs once.I guess the likes of Huizenga deserves most blame......Finances another blame. :mischief We started with nothing as an expansion team. Every year from 93, we got better, moving up one position in the division (6th in 93, 5th in 94 with the realignment, 4th in 95, 3rd in 96, 2nd in 97). Good teams don't come together out of nowhere. He built the team from the ground up when he put together a team that could be a consistent winner, Wayne-o tore it down. After that, he started putting it back together, and was a big reason we had a winning team in 2003. Dave was a great GM and still is. They didn't exactly build the team from the ground up.Alot of key players of the 97 championship, we signed as free agents in 96 or 97.Proven talent. All in all we have never had consistent success.
May 6, 200818 yr Ahhh the days when we had a bad general manager.I think i might cry. Dave Dombrowski is a bad GM now? Wow. It must have been him who added that ugly blue tarp in centerfield... From 1993 through 2002 we were terrible, with the exception of 97.We were never consistent winners and only made the playoffs once.I guess the likes of Huizenga deserves most blame......Finances another blame. :mischief We started with nothing as an expansion team. Every year from 93, we got better, moving up one position in the division (6th in 93, 5th in 94 with the realignment, 4th in 95, 3rd in 96, 2nd in 97). Good teams don't come together out of nowhere. He built the team from the ground up when he put together a team that could be a consistent winner, Wayne-o tore it down. After that, he started putting it back together, and was a big reason we had a winning team in 2003. Dave was a great GM and still is. They didn't exactly build the team from the ground up.Alot of key players of the 97 championship, we signed as free agents in 96 or 97. I wasn't aware that the GM didn't sign FAs. Outside of that, we get more crap for that in 97 than should exist. In our starting lineup, Conine, Sheffield, CJ, and Renteria were with the team or in the system since 93. Counsell and Daulton were two key trade acquisitions. Dave did good. You can also thank him for 2003 as he brought us D-Lee, Castillo, Lowell, Gonzo, Encarnacion, Cabrera, Pavano, Penny, Dontrelle, and Beckett.
May 6, 200818 yr Author Ahhh the days when we had a bad general manager.I think i might cry. Dave Dombrowski is a bad GM now? Wow. It must have been him who added that ugly blue tarp in centerfield... From 1993 through 2002 we were terrible, with the exception of 97.We were never consistent winners and only made the playoffs once.I guess the likes of Huizenga deserves most blame......Finances another blame. :mischief We started with nothing as an expansion team. Every year from 93, we got better, moving up one position in the division (6th in 93, 5th in 94 with the realignment, 4th in 95, 3rd in 96, 2nd in 97). Good teams don't come together out of nowhere. He built the team from the ground up when he put together a team that could be a consistent winner, Wayne-o tore it down. After that, he started putting it back together, and was a big reason we had a winning team in 2003. Dave was a great GM and still is. They didn't exactly build the team from the ground up.Alot of key players of the 97 championship, we signed as free agents in 96 or 97. I wasn't aware that the GM didn't sign FAs. That's easy to do when they are proven stars.
May 6, 200818 yr Ahhh the days when we had a bad general manager.I think i might cry. Dave Dombrowski is a bad GM now? Wow. It must have been him who added that ugly blue tarp in centerfield... From 1993 through 2002 we were terrible, with the exception of 97.We were never consistent winners and only made the playoffs once.I guess the likes of Huizenga deserves most blame......Finances another blame. :mischief We started with nothing as an expansion team. Every year from 93, we got better, moving up one position in the division (6th in 93, 5th in 94 with the realignment, 4th in 95, 3rd in 96, 2nd in 97). Good teams don't come together out of nowhere. He built the team from the ground up when he put together a team that could be a consistent winner, Wayne-o tore it down. After that, he started putting it back together, and was a big reason we had a winning team in 2003. Dave was a great GM and still is. They didn't exactly build the team from the ground up.Alot of key players of the 97 championship, we signed as free agents in 96 or 97. I wasn't aware that the GM didn't sign FAs. That's easy to do when they are proven stars. So you are just going to ignore the rest of the post where I point out that most of our starting lineup was with the team for years or acquired via trade? Or the part that he is responsible for almost very part of our 2003 World Series team?
May 7, 200818 yr Dombrowski had a large hand in the 2003 team, no doubt, but there were some really, really dark years after 1997. He went through a LOT of different people before finding some of those core guys. Its not like he immediately got talent in return for the 1997 dismantling.
May 7, 200818 yr Dombrowski had a large hand in the 2003 team, no doubt, but there were some really, really dark years after 1997. He went through a LOT of different people before finding some of those core guys. Its not like he immediately got talent in return for the 1997 dismantling. Off of the top of my head, in hand by 1999: Castillo, Lee, Beckett, Burnett, Penny, Gonzalez, Lowell, Cabrera, Looper, Castro, Redmond
May 7, 200818 yr Ahhh the days when we had a bad general manager.I think i might cry. Dave Dombrowski is a bad GM now? Wow. It must have been him who added that ugly blue tarp in centerfield... From 1993 through 2002 we were terrible, with the exception of 97.We were never consistent winners and only made the playoffs once.I guess the likes of Huizenga deserves most blame......Finances another blame. :mischief We started with nothing as an expansion team. Every year from 93, we got better, moving up one position in the division (6th in 93, 5th in 94 with the realignment, 4th in 95, 3rd in 96, 2nd in 97). Good teams don't come together out of nowhere. He built the team from the ground up when he put together a team that could be a consistent winner, Wayne-o tore it down. After that, he started putting it back together, and was a big reason we had a winning team in 2003. Dave was a great GM and still is. They didn't exactly build the team from the ground up.Alot of key players of the 97 championship, we signed as free agents in 96 or 97. I wasn't aware that the GM didn't sign FAs. Outside of that, we get more crap for that in 97 than should exist. In our starting lineup, Conine, Sheffield, CJ, and Renteria were with the team or in the system since 93. Counsell and Daulton were two key trade acquisitions. Dave did good. You can also thank him for 2003 as he brought us D-Lee, Castillo, Lowell, Gonzo, Encarnacion, Cabrera, Pavano, Penny, Dontrelle, and Beckett. Wasn't Dontrelle Beinfest, Encarnacion Beinfest in a trade with Cincy, Pavano Beinfest in a trade with MLB for Cliff Floyd? Remember, Beinfest also got rid of CJ, Preston and Hampton for Pierre and a 300k SP in SpooneyCrapper. I think Beiny was as big a plus for this organization as Dom's was. Not to mention selling loria on pudge and knowing when to say when with cabs and dontrelle. Chris
May 7, 200818 yr Ahhh the days when we had a bad general manager.I think i might cry. Dave Dombrowski is a bad GM now? Wow. It must have been him who added that ugly blue tarp in centerfield... From 1993 through 2002 we were terrible, with the exception of 97.We were never consistent winners and only made the playoffs once.I guess the likes of Huizenga deserves most blame......Finances another blame. :mischief We started with nothing as an expansion team. Every year from 93, we got better, moving up one position in the division (6th in 93, 5th in 94 with the realignment, 4th in 95, 3rd in 96, 2nd in 97). Good teams don't come together out of nowhere. He built the team from the ground up when he put together a team that could be a consistent winner, Wayne-o tore it down. After that, he started putting it back together, and was a big reason we had a winning team in 2003. Dave was a great GM and still is. They didn't exactly build the team from the ground up.Alot of key players of the 97 championship, we signed as free agents in 96 or 97. I wasn't aware that the GM didn't sign FAs. Outside of that, we get more crap for that in 97 than should exist. In our starting lineup, Conine, Sheffield, CJ, and Renteria were with the team or in the system since 93. Counsell and Daulton were two key trade acquisitions. Dave did good. You can also thank him for 2003 as he brought us D-Lee, Castillo, Lowell, Gonzo, Encarnacion, Cabrera, Pavano, Penny, Dontrelle, and Beckett. Wasn't Dontrelle Beinfest, Encarnacion Beinfest in a trade with Cincy, Pavano Beinfest in a trade with MLB for Cliff Floyd? Remember, Beinfest also got rid of CJ, Preston and Hampton for Pierre and a 300k SP in SpooneyCrapper. I think Beiny was as big a plus for this organization as Dom's was. Not to mention selling loria on pudge and knowing when to say when with cabs and dontrelle. Chris Yeah, I'm sorry, I got confused about when we lost Dave and got Beinfest.
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