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So ESPN is reporting that instant replay may be tested in the Arizona Fall League to see its effectiveness during games. If successful the potential is there to use it in MLB as early as next season. I know this has been discussed here, and I'm all for it, but how far does it go? Just home run calls? Close plays? I'm thinking home run calls should be sufficient, but replaying every close call at first is overboard IMO. Thoughts?

 

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There's no question in my mind that at some point this is going to become a owner vs umpires issues in collective bargaining where the "guy in the booth" or however it works out will be part of the umpiring crew.

 

This is an imperfect sport played and run by imperfect people, and that's part of the game. Having an umpire's "eyes" on home runs 200 ft away from the nearest umpire makes sense and is sellable, going beyond that to computers calling balls and strikes gets a little too close to "Robot Baseball", and I don't think that's good for the game.

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There's no question in my mind that at some point this is going to become a owner vs umpires issues in collective bargaining where the "guy in the booth" or however it works out will be part of the umpiring crew.

 

This is an imperfect sport played and run by imperfect people, and that's part of the game. Having an umpire's "eyes" on home runs 200 ft away from the nearest umpire makes sense and is sellable, going beyond that to computers calling balls and strikes gets a little too close to "Robot Baseball", and I don't think that's good for the game.

 

I don't know. Robot Baseball seems pretty interesting...

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There's no question in my mind that at some point this is going to become a owner vs umpires issues in collective bargaining where the "guy in the booth" or however it works out will be part of the umpiring crew.

 

This is an imperfect sport played and run by imperfect people, and that's part of the game. Having an umpire's "eyes" on home runs 200 ft away from the nearest umpire makes sense and is sellable, going beyond that to computers calling balls and strikes gets a little too close to "Robot Baseball", and I don't think that's good for the game.

 

I don't know. Robot Baseball seems pretty interesting...

 

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There's no question in my mind that at some point this is going to become a owner vs umpires issues in collective bargaining where the "guy in the booth" or however it works out will be part of the umpiring crew.

 

This is an imperfect sport played and run by imperfect people, and that's part of the game. Having an umpire's "eyes" on home runs 200 ft away from the nearest umpire makes sense and is sellable, going beyond that to computers calling balls and strikes gets a little too close to "Robot Baseball", and I don't think that's good for the game.

 

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There's no question in my mind that at some point this is going to become a owner vs umpires issues in collective bargaining where the "guy in the booth" or however it works out will be part of the umpiring crew.

 

This is an imperfect sport played and run by imperfect people, and that's part of the game. Having an umpire's "eyes" on home runs 200 ft away from the nearest umpire makes sense and is sellable, going beyond that to computers calling balls and strikes gets a little too close to "Robot Baseball", and I don't think that's good for the game.

I never understand this. In no other business would someone make an argument like that.

 

Salesman: "Ok Mr. Accountant, I have something great for you!"

 

Mr. Accountant: "Go ahead."

 

Sales: "Well, this is a calculater. Using it, you can make your job alot easier and much more accurate. No longer will you have to add things using pencil, paper, and an abacus. No longer will you have to double and triple check your calculations to make sure you didn't make a mental error. No longer will you have to worry about making a single math miscalculation which sends all your numbers off!"

 

Mr. A: "Eh...I really like the human element though, no thanks."

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That's why you're not in business.

 

Unions are not going to go quietly into the still night. Just like the city and county cops fighting over the territories at the new stadium. And part of the game is a Matt Treanor pulling a pitch into the strikezone like Chris Angel making you believe he can really levitate some girl in front of a casino in Vegas.

 

BTW "Robot Baseball" is posted here somewhere I think. It's hilarious. Boog Sciambi narrates.

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That's why you're not in business.

 

Unions are not going to go quietly into the still night. Just like the city and county cops fighting over the territories at the new stadium. And part of the game is a Matt Treanor pulling a pitch into the strikezone like Chris Angel making you believe he can really levitate some girl in front of a casino in Vegas.

 

BTW "Robot Baseball" is posted here somewhere I think. It's hilarious. Boog Sciambi narrates.

The strikezone is one thing, noone is really talking about instant replay for that. It's the fair/foul, HR/Double thing that I am talking about.

 

But to say the game should be imperfect because it's always been an imperfect game is the kind of thing that always delays progress.

 

And I am in business. I am in the progress business.

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There's no question in my mind that at some point this is going to become a owner vs umpires issues in collective bargaining where the "guy in the booth" or however it works out will be part of the umpiring crew.

 

This is an imperfect sport played and run by imperfect people, and that's part of the game. Having an umpire's "eyes" on home runs 200 ft away from the nearest umpire makes sense and is sellable, going beyond that to computers calling balls and strikes gets a little too close to "Robot Baseball", and I don't think that's good for the game.

 

I don't know. Robot Baseball seems pretty interesting...

 

 

How misleading. That was not Robot Baseball, can someone please find the audio to the real robot baseball???

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That's why you're not in business.

 

Unions are not going to go quietly into the still night. Just like the city and county cops fighting over the territories at the new stadium. And part of the game is a Matt Treanor pulling a pitch into the strikezone like Chris Angel making you believe he can really levitate some girl in front of a casino in Vegas.

 

BTW "Robot Baseball" is posted here somewhere I think. It's hilarious. Boog Sciambi narrates.

The strikezone is one thing, noone is really talking about instant replay for that. It's the fair/foul, HR/Double thing that I am talking about.

 

But to say the game should be imperfect because it's always been an imperfect game is the kind of thing that always delays progress.

 

And I am in business. I am in the progress business.

 

I agree 100%. I think it should be replay by umpire proximity. If there isn't an ump w/in "x" amount of feet from where the ball first lands or stops, it should go to replay if the managers want. Give the managers a red baseball and have them throw it onto the field. They get one replay a game. Would be pretty awesome if you ask me. Imagine a pissed Ozzie Guillen throwing that ball onto the field. Smashing it down with all his might. :thumbup

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Rabb, maybe you misunderstood me. It isn't about progress I'm talking about the little parts of the game that are like cartilege in a joint - little shock absorbers. And I'm not anti-progress or a ludite, I bought my first personal computer in 1977. I'm thinking of little things like second basemen not touching 2nd base 60% of the time on a 6-4-3 doubleplay. I don't think you're talking about completely replacing umpires and I'm not talking about slowing down progress, but I will admit I don't think QuesTec is anywhere near ready, when it is we'll revisit the subject. After all I'm in favor of using video replay of homeruns etc. I like Kev's umpire proximity rule.

 

But to ignore the imperfections in the game, many of which make it flow smoothly isn't well thought out and you usually do that. My main point really was you're going to have a labor issue if and when video replay is instituted.

 

And besides some of the game are theatrical "of course I caught that (trapped) ball..." arm held straight up, that sometimes seems unfair (when it's the other guy's team but great when it's your guy). And what would Bobby Cox do if he didn't have something to argue about. Lou Pinella might as well bring a rocking chair to the dugout.

 

Those the kinds of things I meant by imperfections. I'm not talking about Alex Rodriguez' blown HR call last night.

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I don't care what lengths Major League Baseball has to go to, as long as they make sure that every call is the correct call. I understand that umpires are humans, and humans obviously make mistakes. Fans like us can easily and comfortably throw criticisms at umpires for making the wrong call, but we hardly ever say anything when an umpire makes a really good call. For the most part, these umpires do an excellent job, and it has often been said that for every 100 calls, 99 are correct. If we can find a way to make that one missed call the correct call, everyone would be happy.

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MLB could do the whole challenge rule.Two challenges a game.

Nah. I don't like that idea because it could be used for obvious plays just to delay the game. Managers are tricky by nature, I wouldn't be surprised to see a "challenge" on 460' HR so that the pen could have a little more time to warm up.

 

It should be similar to the NHL, were on a close HR call, they check the camera for a few seconds and make the call.

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