October 27, 200817 yr Ok, so my wish with this article is not the usual gun debate that rages in here... but this is dispicable and the organizers of this as well as the parents should face some legal consequences because there is no way in hell AN 8 YEAR OLD SHOULD BE EVEN REMOTELY NEAR A FREAKIN UZI!!! http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27399337/
October 28, 200817 yr "but but but guns don't kill people! People kill people!" Man, what a sad story. RIP. Seriously, who lets an 8-year old kid shoot a gun period--let alone a gun of that magnitude? Supervision my butt, the "licensed official" was probably some drunk guy named Chuck. I think whoever let him touch the gun should be tried for negligence, or something.
October 28, 200817 yr "but but but guns don't kill people! People kill people!" Man, what a sad story. RIP. Seriously, who lets an 8-year old kid shoot a gun period--let alone a gun of that magnitude? Supervision my butt, the "licensed official" was probably some drunk guy named Chuck. I think whoever let him touch the gun should be tried for negligence, or something. The problem here is with a PERSON letting an 8 year old use that sort of weapon, not the weapon itself.So it remains true that people kill people. The gun didn't float up int othe air on its own and shoot anybody. It required the stupidity of a human being for this incident to happen.
October 28, 200817 yr I learned to shoot at 6. A squirrell rifle is a far cry from an UZI. People that weigh that little should ever fire a fully automatic weapon.
October 28, 200817 yr "but but but guns don't kill people! People kill people!" Man, what a sad story. RIP. Seriously, who lets an 8-year old kid shoot a gun period--let alone a gun of that magnitude? Supervision my butt, the "licensed official" was probably some drunk guy named Chuck. I think whoever let him touch the gun should be tried for negligence, or something. The problem here is with a PERSON letting an 8 year old use that sort of weapon, not the weapon itself.So it remains true that people kill people. The gun didn't float up int othe air on its own and shoot anybody. It required the stupidity of a human being for this incident to happen. Fingers don't kill people. Bullets do.
October 28, 200817 yr "but but but guns don't kill people! People kill people!" Man, what a sad story. RIP. Seriously, who lets an 8-year old kid shoot a gun period--let alone a gun of that magnitude? Supervision my butt, the "licensed official" was probably some drunk guy named Chuck. I think whoever let him touch the gun should be tried for negligence, or something. The problem here is with a PERSON letting an 8 year old use that sort of weapon, not the weapon itself.So it remains true that people kill people. The gun didn't float up int othe air on its own and shoot anybody. It required the stupidity of a human being for this incident to happen. Fingers don't kill people. Bullets do. Bullets dont fly around the air unless someone causes it to. You can kill someone with a rock if you throw it at them as well, should we ban rocks?
October 28, 200817 yr I grew up in Puerto Rico, which is a society with strong gun control....Result, the bad guys buying illegal guns have the power and most people are defendless . Look at the killing, armed robery, drug related crimes down there. I wish the laws were changed down there to allow a more widespread ownership of guns. When Gov can't control crime, some time people have to take things on their own hands
October 28, 200817 yr "but but but guns don't kill people! People kill people!" Man, what a sad story. RIP. Seriously, who lets an 8-year old kid shoot a gun period--let alone a gun of that magnitude? Supervision my butt, the "licensed official" was probably some drunk guy named Chuck. I think whoever let him touch the gun should be tried for negligence, or something. The problem here is with a PERSON letting an 8 year old use that sort of weapon, not the weapon itself.So it remains true that people kill people. The gun didn't float up int othe air on its own and shoot anybody. It required the stupidity of a human being for this incident to happen. Fingers don't kill people. Bullets do. Bullets dont fly around the air unless someone causes it to. You can kill someone with a rock if you throw it at them as well, should we ban rocks? I can argue against this all day. Here's the thing. People kill people. Guns make it really easy for people to kill people. Would someone rob a bank with a rock?
October 28, 200817 yr "but but but guns don't kill people! People kill people!" Man, what a sad story. RIP. Seriously, who lets an 8-year old kid shoot a gun period--let alone a gun of that magnitude? Supervision my butt, the "licensed official" was probably some drunk guy named Chuck. I think whoever let him touch the gun should be tried for negligence, or something. The problem here is with a PERSON letting an 8 year old use that sort of weapon, not the weapon itself.So it remains true that people kill people. The gun didn't float up int othe air on its own and shoot anybody. It required the stupidity of a human being for this incident to happen. Fingers don't kill people. Bullets do. Bullets dont fly around the air unless someone causes it to. You can kill someone with a rock if you throw it at them as well, should we ban rocks? I can argue against this all day. Here's the thing. People kill people. Guns make it really easy for people to kill people. Would someone rob a bank with a rock? although I am against legal possession of guns, I have to argue with you that a person can rob a bank with a rock. You can't make knife's illegal, there are always other ways of robbing a bank and killing other people. But guns are the cause of the majority of murders in this country, nobody can dispute that making the possession of guns would significantly decrease the death rate in the U.S
October 28, 200817 yr although I am against legal possession of guns, I have to argue with you that a person can rob a bank with a rock. You can't make knife's illegal, there are always other ways of robbing a bank and killing other people. But guns are the cause of the majority of murders in this country, nobody can dispute that making the possession of guns would significantly decrease the death rate in the U.S That's exactly what I'm saying. And also, someone could try to rob a bank with a rock, it would just be really hard to do. And stupid. And sorry Jimmy Jack for turning your thread into the exact opposite of what you wanted. Couldn't help it
October 28, 200817 yr although I am against legal possession of guns, I have to argue with you that a person can rob a bank with a rock. You can't make knife's illegal, there are always other ways of robbing a bank and killing other people. But guns are the cause of the majority of murders in this country, nobody can dispute that making the possession of guns would significantly decrease the death rate in the U.S That's exactly what I'm saying. I know, just disagree when you said you can't rob a bank with a rock, because that can easily be done. Hell people have robbed places without any weapon at all. All it takes is a sadistic mind to truely rob a bank
October 28, 200817 yr although I am against legal possession of guns, I have to argue with you that a person can rob a bank with a rock. You can't make knife's illegal, there are always other ways of robbing a bank and killing other people. But guns are the cause of the majority of murders in this country, nobody can dispute that making the possession of guns would significantly decrease the death rate in the U.S That's exactly what I'm saying. And also, someone could try to rob a bank with a rock, it would just be really hard to do. And stupid. Not hard, they can threaten to kill the people with that rock, and people would resist.
October 28, 200817 yr I grew up in Puerto Rico, which is a society with strong gun control....Result, the bad guys buying illegal guns have the power and most people are defendless . Look at the killing, armed robery, drug related crimes down there. I wish the laws were changed down there to allow a more widespread ownership of guns. When Gov can't control crime, some time people have to take things on their own hands How do you know that the crime rate wouldn't be higher but for the strong gun control? There's strong gun control in England and other European countries and their crime rates are way lower than in the United States. How do you explain that? Nevertheless, I believe in reasonable gun control - but not strong gun control. I think the government would have too much power over its subjects if gun control were too strong. I know I sound like a crazy, but I really think a well-armed population stops government in its tracks if it tries to grab too much power.
October 28, 200817 yr although I am against legal possession of guns, I have to argue with you that a person can rob a bank with a rock. You can't make knife's illegal, there are always other ways of robbing a bank and killing other people. But guns are the cause of the majority of murders in this country, nobody can dispute that making the possession of guns would significantly decrease the death rate in the U.S That's exactly what I'm saying. And also, someone could try to rob a bank with a rock, it would just be really hard to do. And stupid. Not hard, they can threaten to kill the people with that rock, and people would resist. I don't agree with that at all. The odds of that rock killing someone are very high. Nobody would resist to a guy with a rock. Just think of how ridiculous that sounds.
October 28, 200817 yr although I am against legal possession of guns, I have to argue with you that a person can rob a bank with a rock. You can't make knife's illegal, there are always other ways of robbing a bank and killing other people. But guns are the cause of the majority of murders in this country, nobody can dispute that making the possession of guns would significantly decrease the death rate in the U.S That's exactly what I'm saying. And also, someone could try to rob a bank with a rock, it would just be really hard to do. And stupid. Not hard, they can threaten to kill the people with that rock, and people would resist. I don't agree with that at all. The odds of that rock killing someone are very high. Nobody would resist to a guy with a rock. Just think of how ridiculous that sounds. It wouldn't sound crazy when you get hit on the head with a giant rock, breaks your skull and kills you
October 28, 200817 yr I grew up in Puerto Rico, which is a society with strong gun control....Result, the bad guys buying illegal guns have the power and most people are defendless . Look at the killing, armed robery, drug related crimes down there. I wish the laws were changed down there to allow a more widespread ownership of guns. When Gov can't control crime, some time people have to take things on their own hands How do you know that the crime rate wouldn't be higher but for the strong gun control? There's strong gun control in England and other European countries and their crime rates are way lower than in the United States. How do you explain that? Nevertheless, I believe in reasonable gun control - but not strong gun control. I think the government would have too much power over its subjects if gun control were too strong. I know I sound like a crazy, but I really think a well-armed population stops government in its tracks if it tries to grab too much power. to be completely honest, I'm not sure if crime rate would go down. but at least the average joe would have a fighting chance to defend himself. I believe in gun control, where most law abiding citizens with a clean record could own a gun (with background checks being required). I'm not in favor of wide open ownership
October 28, 200817 yr I am sorry but how did this conversation derailed itself into this retarded argument about comparing a rock with a gun? For f***s sake an 8 year old boy is dead because of an absolutely ridiculous and moronic decision by what i have to guess have to be the saddest excuse for parents in recent history.
October 29, 200817 yr I guess a Glock wasn't good enough, so he had to have an Uzi? Why aren't they illegal??
October 29, 200817 yr I grew up in Puerto Rico, which is a society with strong gun control....Result, the bad guys buying illegal guns have the power and most people are defendless . Look at the killing, armed robery, drug related crimes down there. I wish the laws were changed down there to allow a more widespread ownership of guns. When Gov can't control crime, some time people have to take things on their own hands How do you know that the crime rate wouldn't be higher but for the strong gun control? There's strong gun control in England and other European countries and their crime rates are way lower than in the United States. How do you explain that? Nevertheless, I believe in reasonable gun control - but not strong gun control. I think the government would have too much power over its subjects if gun control were too strong. I know I sound like a crazy, but I really think a well-armed population stops government in its tracks if it tries to grab too much power. to be completely honest, I'm not sure if crime rate would go down. but at least the average joe would have a fighting chance to defend himself. I believe in gun control, where most law abiding citizens with a clean record could own a gun (with background checks being required). I'm not in favor of wide open ownership Agree 100%
October 29, 200817 yr I grew up in Puerto Rico, which is a society with strong gun control....Result, the bad guys buying illegal guns have the power and most people are defendless . Look at the killing, armed robery, drug related crimes down there. I wish the laws were changed down there to allow a more widespread ownership of guns. When Gov can't control crime, some time people have to take things on their own hands How do you know that the crime rate wouldn't be higher but for the strong gun control? There's strong gun control in England and other European countries and their crime rates are way lower than in the United States. How do you explain that? Nevertheless, I believe in reasonable gun control - but not strong gun control. I think the government would have too much power over its subjects if gun control were too strong. I know I sound like a crazy, but I really think a well-armed population stops government in its tracks if it tries to grab too much power. to be completely honest, I'm not sure if crime rate would go down. but at least the average joe would have a fighting chance to defend himself. I believe in gun control, where most law abiding citizens with a clean record could own a gun (with background checks being required). I'm not in favor of wide open ownership Agree 100% Ditto. Total gun bans would do no good.
October 29, 200817 yr I grew up in Puerto Rico, which is a society with strong gun control....Result, the bad guys buying illegal guns have the power and most people are defendless . Look at the killing, armed robery, drug related crimes down there. I wish the laws were changed down there to allow a more widespread ownership of guns. When Gov can't control crime, some time people have to take things on their own hands How do you know that the crime rate wouldn't be higher but for the strong gun control? There's strong gun control in England and other European countries and their crime rates are way lower than in the United States. How do you explain that? Nevertheless, I believe in reasonable gun control - but not strong gun control. I think the government would have too much power over its subjects if gun control were too strong. I know I sound like a crazy, but I really think a well-armed population stops government in its tracks if it tries to grab too much power. to be completely honest, I'm not sure if crime rate would go down. but at least the average joe would have a fighting chance to defend himself. I believe in gun control, where most law abiding citizens with a clean record could own a gun (with background checks being required). I'm not in favor of wide open ownership Agree 100% Ditto. Total gun bans would do no good. Sure, in this country all are freedoms have been restricted somewhat. Such as time, place, and manner restrictions on 1st amendment protections. So, laws to make the ownserhsip and sale of guns safer don't necessarily bother me that much. Of course, a total arms ban would be the first path towards tyranny.
October 29, 200817 yr I agree. My belief is that the 2nd amendment was created so that we the people may protect ourselves from tyranny.
October 29, 200817 yr I agree. My belief is that the 2nd amendment was created so that we the people may protect ourselves from tyranny. That's exactly right. And when our beloved government nationalized the militias, the citizens are now the lone line of defense.
October 29, 200817 yr I don't believe in a total gun ban either. I just think guns are very very bad. The ease by which any person can obtain gun should be held to a bare minimum. It's way too easy to get one.
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