August 21, 201016 yr Btw, the Marlins had a chance at Heyward but decided they could take Stanton later in the draft (correct me if I'm wrong). But weren't they both 2nd round picks or am I mistaken? I mean, what if the Marlins had drafted J-Hey in the first round and Stanton in the second? :o Imagine having both of those guys in the outfield. *Drool*
August 21, 201016 yr Btw, the Marlins had a chance at Heyward but decided they could take Stanton later in the draft (correct me if I'm wrong). But weren't they both 2nd round picks or am I mistaken? I mean, what if the Marlins had drafted J-Hey in the first round and Stanton in the second? :o Imagine having both of those guys in the outfield. *Drool* No, Heyward was a 1st rounder...the Marlins picked Dominguez a couple picks before Heyward. Anyways, like someone said earlier, he probably would of only signed if the Braves drafted him, which of course he did.
August 21, 201016 yr The reason that I say this team hasn't had a plan is not because their overall records were extremely poor over the last couple of years, it is that they do nothing (or usually the opposite, they take away) to improve this team and close the gap between a mere winning team and a playoff team. That's why I say this team is a blueprint for mediocrity and not a winner. There is no plan to make this team better, to do what it takes to get over that hump. Though 2007 was an injury mulligan, we've had roughly the same pieces in place since 2006, and those pieces showed that they can win ballgames but we needed a little help to win enough of them. This team failed to to get those extra pieces, but most of the time it didn't try. This team is capable of being almost good enough, but the only plan we've ever had is to stand pat.
August 21, 201016 yr The reason that I say this team hasn't had a plan is not because their overall records were extremely poor over the last couple of years, it is that they do nothing (or usually the opposite, they take away) to improve this team and close the gap between a mere winning team and a playoff team. That's why I say this team is a blueprint for mediocrity and not a winner. There is no plan to make this team better, to do what it takes to get over that hump. Though 2007 was an injury mulligan, we've had roughly the same pieces in place since 2006, and those pieces showed that they can win ballgames but we needed a little help to win enough of them. This team failed to to get those extra pieces, but most of the time it didn't try. This team is capable of being almost good enough, but the only plan we've ever had is to stand pat. The team has a budget in their payroll.
August 21, 201016 yr The reason that I say this team hasn't had a plan is not because their overall records were extremely poor over the last couple of years, it is that they do nothing (or usually the opposite, they take away) to improve this team and close the gap between a mere winning team and a playoff team. That's why I say this team is a blueprint for mediocrity and not a winner. There is no plan to make this team better, to do what it takes to get over that hump. Though 2007 was an injury mulligan, we've had roughly the same pieces in place since 2006, and those pieces showed that they can win ballgames but we needed a little help to win enough of them. This team failed to to get those extra pieces, but most of the time it didn't try. This team is capable of being almost good enough, but the only plan we've ever had is to stand pat. The team has a budget in their payroll. Which is why they should realize that the only way they will win is to make their young talent work for them. They are hesitant to trade any young player, whether or not they would get another young player in return. Tampa Bay traded the highest rated young player in baseball and it won them the AL East.
August 21, 201016 yr The reason that I say this team hasn't had a plan is not because their overall records were extremely poor over the last couple of years, it is that they do nothing (or usually the opposite, they take away) to improve this team and close the gap between a mere winning team and a playoff team. That's why I say this team is a blueprint for mediocrity and not a winner. There is no plan to make this team better, to do what it takes to get over that hump. Though 2007 was an injury mulligan, we've had roughly the same pieces in place since 2006, and those pieces showed that they can win ballgames but we needed a little help to win enough of them. This team failed to to get those extra pieces, but most of the time it didn't try. This team is capable of being almost good enough, but the only plan we've ever had is to stand pat. The team has a budget in their payroll. Which is why they should realize that the only way they will win is to make their young talent work for them. They are hesitant to trade any young player, whether or not they would get another young player in return. Tampa Bay traded the highest rated young player in baseball and it won them the AL East. This has already been discussed. Tampa Bay had a lot of depth in the outfield; they needed pitching. They traded a prospect in Delmon Young for a great pitching prospect in Matt Garza. It was convenient for both teams. I don't think the Marlins have had an opportunity to do such a thing in recent years, but I actually think they can make something work now. Trade 1 of Morrison/Gaby (preferably Gaby because he's older) for a solid starter. I'm guessing you're looking for that type of trade. The Marlins did make this type of deal when they traded Mike Jacobs to the Royals for Leo Nunez. They knew they had Cantu to play 1B + quality prospects at 1B (Gaby, Morrison) waiting for the future so they dealt Jacobs who wasn't even good for a potential quality reliever, who was already proven in the big leagues (Leo and Ramon Ramirez were KC's setup guys at the time).
August 22, 201016 yr The reason that I say this team hasn't had a plan is not because their overall records were extremely poor over the last couple of years, it is that they do nothing (or usually the opposite, they take away) to improve this team and close the gap between a mere winning team and a playoff team. That's why I say this team is a blueprint for mediocrity and not a winner. There is no plan to make this team better, to do what it takes to get over that hump. Though 2007 was an injury mulligan, we've had roughly the same pieces in place since 2006, and those pieces showed that they can win ballgames but we needed a little help to win enough of them. This team failed to to get those extra pieces, but most of the time it didn't try. This team is capable of being almost good enough, but the only plan we've ever had is to stand pat. The team has a budget in their payroll. Which is why they should realize that the only way they will win is to make their young talent work for them. They are hesitant to trade any young player, whether or not they would get another young player in return. Tampa Bay traded the highest rated young player in baseball and it won them the AL East. This has already been discussed. Tampa Bay had a lot of depth in the outfield; they needed pitching. They traded a prospect in Delmon Young for a great pitching prospect in Matt Garza. It was convenient for both teams. I don't think the Marlins have had an opportunity to do such a thing in recent years, but I actually think they can make something work now. Trade 1 of Morrison/Gaby (preferably Gaby because he's older) for a solid starter. I'm guessing you're looking for that type of trade. The Marlins did make this type of deal when they traded Mike Jacobs to the Royals for Leo Nunez. They knew they had Cantu to play 1B + quality prospects at 1B (Gaby, Morrison) waiting for the future so they dealt Jacobs who wasn't even good for a potential quality reliever, who was already proven in the big leagues (Leo and Ramon Ramirez were KC's setup guys at the time). I would be disappointed if they traded either Gaby or Morrison because I like watching them play, but in a lot of ways it could really be the right move long-term. Actually, I've posted in numerous threads that I think trading Morrison could be fruitful.
August 23, 201016 yr I'm thinking that giving Cody away for free must have been part of a great master plan. Once again, the front office has had another once-productive player go without getting anything. This franchise doesn't have the resources to continually lose starting caliber players and not getting anything for them.
August 23, 201016 yr The reason that I say this team hasn't had a plan is not because their overall records were extremely poor over the last couple of years, it is that they do nothing (or usually the opposite, they take away) to improve this team and close the gap between a mere winning team and a playoff team. That's why I say this team is a blueprint for mediocrity and not a winner. There is no plan to make this team better, to do what it takes to get over that hump. Though 2007 was an injury mulligan, we've had roughly the same pieces in place since 2006, and those pieces showed that they can win ballgames but we needed a little help to win enough of them. This team failed to to get those extra pieces, but most of the time it didn't try. This team is capable of being almost good enough, but the only plan we've ever had is to stand pat. The team has a budget in their payroll. Which is why they should realize that the only way they will win is to make their young talent work for them. They are hesitant to trade any young player, whether or not they would get another young player in return. Tampa Bay traded the highest rated young player in baseball and it won them the AL East. This has already been discussed. Tampa Bay had a lot of depth in the outfield; they needed pitching. They traded a prospect in Delmon Young for a great pitching prospect in Matt Garza. It was convenient for both teams. I don't think the Marlins have had an opportunity to do such a thing in recent years, but I actually think they can make something work now. Trade 1 of Morrison/Gaby (preferably Gaby because he's older) for a solid starter. I'm guessing you're looking for that type of trade. The Marlins did make this type of deal when they traded Mike Jacobs to the Royals for Leo Nunez. They knew they had Cantu to play 1B + quality prospects at 1B (Gaby, Morrison) waiting for the future so they dealt Jacobs who wasn't even good for a potential quality reliever, who was already proven in the big leagues (Leo and Ramon Ramirez were KC's setup guys at the time). I would be disappointed if they traded either Gaby or Morrison because I like watching them play, but in a lot of ways it could really be the right move long-term. Actually, I've posted in numerous threads that I think trading Morrison could be fruitful. you never trade morison between the choice of gaby and morrison. Morrison is a lefty, something we desperately need, younger, better and more versitle defensively and when all is said and done a better hitter. I would trade Gaby until dominguez is ready because then we have another hole in the lineup that we obviously wont go out and spend on a free agent to fill.
August 23, 201016 yr you never trade morison between the choice of gaby and morrison. Morrison is a lefty, something we desperately need, younger, better and more versitle defensively and when all is said and done a better hitter. I would trade Gaby until dominguez is ready because then we have another hole in the lineup that we obviously wont go out and spend on a free agent to fill. You get more in a trade for Morrison though. That's the whole idea. I don't think you understand the concept of trading a player while their value is high, and that's fine because neither do the Marlins.
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