mystikol87 Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 Yeah, but Keith Law was terrible defensively. Even Garrett Jones was better, for pete's sake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poptart Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 from Keith Law's 100 top prospects article: 55. Matt Dominguez Dominguez is the best-fielding third base prospect I've seen since I saw Ryan Zimmerman in college, and as good as Zimmerman is, Dominguez might be better than the Nationals' franchise player was at the same age. And Zimmerman's offensive progression in the majors offers some hope for Dominguez, who has stagnated a little because he's primarily a fastball hitter who struggles badly against offspeed stuff. He has good bat speed, but glides as he swings, so he cuts off his power while also reducing his chances to adjust to a breaking ball or changeup. Right now, he projects as a regular who saves 12-15 runs a year at a minimum with his glove, which means if he makes any positive changes at the plate, he's an All-Star. 79. Christian Yelich The Marlins broke a couple of clubs' hearts with this surprise pick in the first round, as a number of teams thought Yelich would fall to them after the MLB Scouting Bureau put a very low grade on him coming into the spring. Yelich sets up back in the box with his hands up and lets the ball travel well, with pretty quick hands but a slightly flat finish that may cut off some of his power. He's an above-average runner who played first base in high school because of a bizarre throwing motion that the Marlins believe they have fixed. He's a good enough athlete to play center and a good enough pure hitter to profile in a corner. In a depleted Florida system, he should be the next breakout star. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgleason02 Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 It's disappointing we've had Sinkbeil, Skipworth, and other draft busts, but a better list to be on is the top 28 and younger organizational talent, and the Marlins would rank top 3 in baseball, if not higher. That, is what matters here. They must draft better, but they have 2 years to fix the system before it becomes a major debilitating depth issue. Dominguez is really the only guy in the minors who could set us back if he flops. Isn't it a bit premature to call Skipworth a bust? He's had three seasons under his belt, and he's only 20 years old. Here's how his minor league hitting and progression compares to Dominguez's: Dominguez: 1st season (A-/Rk) .158/.183/.246/.429 2nd season (A) .296/.354/.499/.853 3rd season (A+/AA) .247/.325/.400/.724 (103 A+ games/31 AA games) 4th season (AA) .252/.333/.411/.744 Skipworth: 1st season (Rk) .208/.263/.340/.602 2nd season (A) .208/.263/.348/.612 3rd season (A/AA) .249/.312/.426/.738 (107 A games/2 AA games) 4th season ??? I think Skipworth at least deserves the chance to show us what he can do in AA this season, coming off his best offensive performance, during which he hit 17 homers. It's fair to say that his stock is low right now because he hasn't had a breakout season yet, but he's not a bust. The kid showed that he could make some adjustments his second time through A-ball and is now in position to get a full season of AA under his belt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystikol87 Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 The difference is that Dominguez might win a Gold Glove at 3B, while I've heard mixed reports on Skippy's defense. And his strikeouts are really scary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgleason02 Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 The difference is that Dominguez might win a Gold Glove at 3B, while I've heard mixed reports on Skippy's defense. And his strikeouts are really scary. You speak the truth, but don't you think he could still turn into a serviceable major leaguer? I mean, at only 20 years old there's still plenty of time for him to continue to develop to the point where he could be a serviceable major leaguer. I don't think it's fair to expect every 1st round draft pick to achieve All-Star or Gold Glove or Silver Slugger status. It's not realistic. As far as I'm concerned, as long as there's the possibility of the prospect contributing to the major league team in some capacity, then he can't be considered a bust. With Skipworth, I believe that's still possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out of the Past Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 Anyone know when baseball-reference will put up the 2010 defensive stats? I'm curious if the 2010 stats back-up the Dominguez defense talk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floridafly Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 It's disappointing we've had Sinkbeil, Skipworth, and other draft busts, but a better list to be on is the top 28 and younger organizational talent, and the Marlins would rank top 3 in baseball, if not higher. That, is what matters here. They must draft better, but they have 2 years to fix the system before it becomes a major debilitating depth issue. Dominguez is really the only guy in the minors who could set us back if he flops. Isn't it a bit premature to call Skipworth a bust? He's had three seasons under his belt, and he's only 20 years old. Here's how his minor league hitting and progression compares to Dominguez's: Dominguez: 1st season (A-/Rk) .158/.183/.246/.429 2nd season (A) .296/.354/.499/.853 3rd season (A+/AA) .247/.325/.400/.724 (103 A+ games/31 AA games) 4th season (AA) .252/.333/.411/.744 Skipworth: 1st season (Rk) .208/.263/.340/.602 2nd season (A) .208/.263/.348/.612 3rd season (A/AA) .249/.312/.426/.738 (107 A games/2 AA games) 4th season ??? I think Skipworth at least deserves the chance to show us what he can do in AA this season, coming off his best offensive performance, during which he hit 17 homers. It's fair to say that his stock is low right now because he hasn't had a breakout season yet, but he's not a bust. The kid showed that he could make some adjustments his second time through A-ball and is now in position to get a full season of AA under his belt. Interesting Skipworth had the exact same BA and OBP in Rookie Ball and single A. But also, it's great to see his SLG % increase from 09 to 10. To be a solid MLB catcher, all he would have to do is put up a slightly better line than what he did last year (maybe .255/.330/.450/.780) with solid defense. Definitely an attainable goal for a 20 year old prospect who is still pretty highly regarded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nny Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 It's disappointing we've had Sinkbeil, Skipworth, and other draft busts, but a better list to be on is the top 28 and younger organizational talent, and the Marlins would rank top 3 in baseball, if not higher. That, is what matters here. They must draft better, but they have 2 years to fix the system before it becomes a major debilitating depth issue. Dominguez is really the only guy in the minors who could set us back if he flops. Isn't it a bit premature to call Skipworth a bust? He's had three seasons under his belt, and he's only 20 years old. Here's how his minor league hitting and progression compares to Dominguez's: Dominguez: 1st season (A-/Rk) .158/.183/.246/.429 2nd season (A) .296/.354/.499/.853 3rd season (A+/AA) .247/.325/.400/.724 (103 A+ games/31 AA games) 4th season (AA) .252/.333/.411/.744 Skipworth: 1st season (Rk) .208/.263/.340/.602 2nd season (A) .208/.263/.348/.612 3rd season (A/AA) .249/.312/.426/.738 (107 A games/2 AA games) 4th season ??? I think Skipworth at least deserves the chance to show us what he can do in AA this season, coming off his best offensive performance, during which he hit 17 homers. It's fair to say that his stock is low right now because he hasn't had a breakout season yet, but he's not a bust. The kid showed that he could make some adjustments his second time through A-ball and is now in position to get a full season of AA under his belt. Firstly, Dominguez's third season came against harder talent competition (A+ v.s. A) Secondly, keeping with that theme, league difference. The league OPS for the Sally in 2010 was .700. The league OPS for the FSL in 2009 was .684. Thirdly, park factors. Dominguez third season came in a MASSIVE pitchers park (One of the most pitcher friendly in all of pro ball), Skipworth's third season came in a MASSIVE hitters park (one of the most hitter friendly in all of pro ball) Adjusting for park and league, Dominguez third year was VASTLY superior to Skipworths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nny Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 Anyone know when baseball-reference will put up the 2010 defensive stats? I'm curious if the 2010 stats back-up the Dominguez defense talk. The guy who did them was picked up by some MLB team. Considering he took down his 2010 CHONE projections, I assume he won't be giving B-R 2010 minor league defensive data. http://www.baseballprojection.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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