97marlin Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Not a single prospect in the top 50. The marlins are, or were built on scouting, and not one player in the top 50. Not even dominguez who is the prospect who is the farthest along on his development. Hand, Ceda, and Marinez, our best pitching prospects aren't anywhere near the top 50. no one thinks much of Ozzie, Is this just a low year and next year we will be fine, or are we really in bad shape? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Beinfest Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Stanton. Morrison. Dominguez. Coghlan. Sanchez. Â We're fine. Â Just need time to re-fill the pool, we're in absolutely. No. Rush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbethan Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 What the Doctor said; we just graduated all our big prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 We need spring training to start soon, because I can't take many more of these types of threads we've been seeing lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schnellders Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Grrrr hate when things like this are said when our top guys, Stanton and Morrison, who would be in the list are now up in the Majors. It's not like we have a crumbling old team and desperately need top prospects. We could be set at a number of positions right now for a long, long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 You can't say "anyone but ours" in terms of better farm systems. If I remember correctly, the Twins, Mets and A's didn't have one either in the top 50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgleason02 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 If you read further down the article, it showed that Dominguez was like 54 or 56...so he just missed the cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizmo Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Our team is incredibly young. Don't worry about the farm system for now. Well, maybe except our pitching prospects. Lack of a potential ace in the system right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watertown_kid Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Is there a prize given for the "best farm system?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizmo Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Is there a prize given for the "best farm system?"Â Â Ask the Royals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerhead Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Is there a prize given for the "best farm system?"Â Â Ask the Royals. Rays are damn good too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanofthefish Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 With Stanton and Morrison already in the Majors and Dominguez on the cusp the "Farm" system does look rather meager, but I wouldn't imagine the Marlins wanting to trade places with the Rays, Royals,etc.. regarding prospects. Also there are more than a few above average prospects still within the organization including James, Hand, Rasmussen and Yelich, so really its all about perspective. The Marlins had the best farm system in 2003, but after graduating D-Train and Cabrera that year what really was left on the farm that actually produced? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floridafly Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 With Stanton and Morrison already in the Majors and Dominguez on the cusp the "Farm" system does look rather meager, but I wouldn't imagine the Marlins wanting to trade places with the Rays, Royals,etc.. regarding prospects. Also there are more than a few above average prospects still within the organization including James, Hand, Rasmussen and Yelich, so really its all about perspective. The Marlins had the best farm system in 2003, but after graduating D-Train and Cabrera that year what really was left on the farm that actually produced?  Does this mean you wouldn't want to have the Royals minor league farm teams in exchange for ours?? Cause I would do that in a heartbeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystikol87 Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 The average team should have 2 prospects in the Top 60. We have 1. And I think they undervalued Dominguez, but whatever. This isn't a big deal when you consider how many we've graduated recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbethan Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 With Stanton and Morrison already in the Majors and Dominguez on the cusp the "Farm" system does look rather meager, but I wouldn't imagine the Marlins wanting to trade places with the Rays, Royals,etc.. regarding prospects. Also there are more than a few above average prospects still within the organization including James, Hand, Rasmussen and Yelich, so really its all about perspective. The Marlins had the best farm system in 2003, but after graduating D-Train and Cabrera that year what really was left on the farm that actually produced?  Does this mean you wouldn't want to have the Royals minor league farm teams in exchange for ours?? Cause I would do that in a heartbeat. Would you swap out our entire organization for theirs? Because that's how that works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Beinfest Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 You can't say "anyone but ours" in terms of better farm systems. If I remember correctly, the Twins, Mets and A's didn't have one either in the top 50.  Furthermore, if there are 30 teams then ideally each team has 1, and then 20 teams have 2. So.. if a team is not in the top 50 prospects... well then.... they're just 1 player away from being an average prospect pool (by silly "Top 50" standards, that is). Mike Stanton. /thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poptart Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 anyone but ours? hardly! http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/insider/news/story?page=2011MLBOrgRanks according to this article Milwaukee's is worse! but only Milwaukee's. 29/30. ouch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floridafly Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 With Stanton and Morrison already in the Majors and Dominguez on the cusp the "Farm" system does look rather meager, but I wouldn't imagine the Marlins wanting to trade places with the Rays, Royals,etc.. regarding prospects. Also there are more than a few above average prospects still within the organization including James, Hand, Rasmussen and Yelich, so really its all about perspective. The Marlins had the best farm system in 2003, but after graduating D-Train and Cabrera that year what really was left on the farm that actually produced?  Does this mean you wouldn't want to have the Royals minor league farm teams in exchange for ours?? Cause I would do that in a heartbeat. Would you swap out our entire organization for theirs? Because that's how that works. Oh I understand, and I would not do it in that situation. But he said "regarding prospects". Thats what I was bolding (or meant to at least) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbethan Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 You can't say "anyone but ours" in terms of better farm systems. If I remember correctly, the Twins, Mets and A's didn't have one either in the top 50.  Furthermore, if there are 30 teams then ideally each team has 1, and then 20 teams have 2. So.. if a team is not in the top 50 prospects... well then.... they're just 1 player away from being an average prospect pool (by silly "Top 50" standards, that is). Mike Stanton. /thread Who was #3 last year before coming ineligible, and I believe Lomo was in the top 25. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entendu Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 If we are still in sh*t shape after 2 years, then maybe we should worry. I don't see this as a major problem right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poptart Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 You can't say "anyone but ours" in terms of better farm systems. If I remember correctly, the Twins, Mets and A's didn't have one either in the top 50.  Furthermore, if there are 30 teams then ideally each team has 1, and then 20 teams have 2. So.. if a team is not in the top 50 prospects... well then.... they're just 1 player away from being an average prospect pool (by silly "Top 50" standards, that is). Mike Stanton. /thread Who was #3 last year before coming ineligible, and I believe Lomo was in the top 25. i guess Morrison isn't a "prospect" anymore because he did TOO DAMN WELL to be a potential-oriented player now. LoMo's the real deal, i reckon. i could have sworn Dominguez was top 50, if not top 20, a few months ago. what happened to that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinsLou Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 Marlins maintain Stanton, Morrison, Dunn, West, Cousins, O. Martinez, and Sanabia's rights for 6 full seasons Marlins maintain G. Sanchez rights for 5 full seasons Hanley is signed for 4 seasons Marlins maintain Coghlan, Volstad, Bonifacio, Webb, Mujica, Baker, B. Sanches, and Badenhop's rights for 4 full seasons Johnson, Nolasco, and Buck are signed for 3 seasons Marlins maintain Mujica's rights for 3 full seasons I think we're ok considering we have a rotation under control for at least the next 3 years, not including Anibal and Javy, at least 6 starting capable players, with another few capable for the bench, and at least half a bullpen all at the MLB level and going nowhere. This is at least 75% of our active roster going forward the next 3 seasons, not including very significant names (Anibal, Javy, Nunez, Hensley, Infante, Choate) who have large roles on the club and all but Javy and Infante we control for two seasons, and not including the half dozen really legit younger guys in the minors (Dominguez, James, Hand, Marinez, Ceda, Rasmussen, maybe Skipworth or Koehler) who should take over roles with the club during these 3 seasons. Also not including free agents, as we have excellent payroll moving forward. Thank you Dan Uggla! It's disappointing we've had Sinkbeil, Skipworth, and other draft busts, but a better list to be on is the top 28 and younger organizational talent, and the Marlins would rank top 3 in baseball, if not higher. That, is what matters here. They must draft better, but they have 2 years to fix the system before it becomes a major debilitating depth issue. Dominguez is really the only guy in the minors who could set us back if he flops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Beinfest Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 i guess Morrison isn't a "prospect" anymore because he did TOO DAMN WELL to be a potential-oriented player now. LoMo's the real deal, i reckon. i could have sworn Dominguez was top 50, if not top 20, a few months ago. what happened to that?  A whole drafting class of 1st round picks/advancing players came in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puma Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 Keith Law came out with his organizational farm rankings today. Marlins are ranked 29th. Brewers 30th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Beinfest Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 ... Law even made a point that teams like San Fransisco and Florida will rank lower because of players like Buster Posey, Mike Stanton, and Logan Morrison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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