There is already a pharmacy (Walgreen's) just across the street from the ballpark. I'm hoping for a Cold Stone or a Duffys to open in one of those lots. 12,000SF is good enough for a sports grill. IMO

I laughed when I read the title, when I drive to see the Marlins I'm not going to think oh I can't wait to get some coffee before the game at the garage cafe shops. WTF.

 

Not yet atleast.

 

Samson is right, if the team were allowed to lease the spots, the city would have a huge weight lifted off their shoulder. The Marlins should have found tenants for the city to make money off of.

 

The main issue at hand is the fact that mid-development the city switched gears from a shops and restaurant format to a high end boutique. That will doom the opening day.

 

What's best right now is to get anyone in there right now, even at a loss. Bring in a few shops, and a restaurant or coffee shop. Get some buzz generating there, and fill it up. Sign them all to one year leases, with an option for them to resign at a higher rate after one year and continue on one year leases.

 

Only problem is they haven't even drawn lease agreements to present. This government is really screwing the pooch.

 

What do you guys thing will come of it. A few shops like the pharmacy (maybe Walgreens or CVS), a starbucks, maybe a bar (No cooked foods, similar to the outdoor bar in bayside) and a Miami Heat/ Miami Dolphins team store for now will work.

 

I really wish I could spearhead the finding of tenants for that area. It may not be the best least agreements for the first year, but they would fully operational by Feburary 1st.

I'm no expert, but I doubt many businesses would actually sign a 1-year lease with no other assurances; the risk of losing immense sunk costs would probably outweigh most rent savings the city might offer.

 

The option is theirs, on a year to year basis. My idea was the first year gives them the option to try it out, if it doesn't work the first year for them they can leave. If they want to stay, they sign another year lease with another option at a higher rate.

 

Say the city wants 18k a month on each spot. They find tenants at 12k for the first year. If those tenants want to stay beyond year one, it would be at a 18k rate. Filling the spot for now quickly, and possibly long term if the business prospects hold up.

I laughed when I read the title, when I drive to see the Marlins I'm not going to think oh I can't wait to get some coffee before the game at the garage cafe shops. WTF.

 

Not yet atleast.

 

Samson is right, if the team were allowed to lease the spots, the city would have a huge weight lifted off their shoulder. The Marlins should have found tenants for the city to make money off of.

 

The main issue at hand is the fact that mid-development the city switched gears from a shops and restaurant format to a high end boutique. That will doom the opening day.

 

What's best right now is to get anyone in there right now, even at a loss. Bring in a few shops, and a restaurant or coffee shop. Get some buzz generating there, and fill it up. Sign them all to one year leases, with an option for them to resign at a higher rate after one year and continue on one year leases.

 

Only problem is they haven't even drawn lease agreements to present. This government is really screwing the pooch.

 

What do you guys thing will come of it. A few shops like the pharmacy (maybe Walgreens or CVS), a starbucks, maybe a bar (No cooked foods, similar to the outdoor bar in bayside) and a Miami Heat/ Miami Dolphins team store for now will work.

 

I really wish I could spearhead the finding of tenants for that area. It may not be the best least agreements for the first year, but they would fully operational by Feburary 1st.

I'm no expert, but I doubt many businesses would actually sign a 1-year lease with no other assurances; the risk of losing immense sunk costs would probably outweigh most rent savings the city might offer.

 

The option is theirs, on a year to year basis. My idea was the first year gives them the option to try it out, if it doesn't work the first year for them they can leave. If they want to stay, they sign another year lease with another option at a higher rate.

 

Say the city wants 18k a month on each spot. They find tenants at 12k for the first year. If those tenants want to stay beyond year one, it would be at a 18k rate. Filling the spot for now quickly, and possibly long term if the business prospects hold up.

I see now that that's what you meant; it wasn't clear to me at first, not sure why.

Still think they should artificially depress the overhead and make the spaces incubators for radical new entrepreneurship. Would be a f***ton better then another block of stores from everywhere else.

The hell with this article and any article that bashes our beautiful new stadium. They still haven't gotten over the fact that Loria and Company pulled it off. The fact of the matter is that the only thing the Marlins had any control over was the construction and the cost over runs. The stadium is being delivered on time and on budget after so many know it alls (in the media) claimed that it couldn't be done on that budget. The only Stadium news that matters is that we have a NEW stadium with a roof, and that the Marlins aren't going anywhere for 30 years.. Any other stadium news is just blah blah blah!

 

By the way, this is not directed towards the poster. You are just posting an article. I've just had it with the stadium bashers in the media and elsewhere. I figured by now the issue would have been put to rest.

 

You're getting yourself way too worked up over this.

 

When you read the article it's clear it's not bashing the stadium itself; rather it's about how the City of Miami completely dropped the ball in planning and research for how to move forward on those shops.

So they won't have restaurants in the garages right away. Who cares?

 

 

Probably a lot of folks, since it will mean that everyone that wants to eat, will have to stand in line inside the stadium, and that will lead to longer lines, food & drinks selling out quicker than they would have, and making for some unpleasantness, all of which may make some people think twice about going back to another game. It won't be the only reason they may not return, but it could be a factor.

 

Such a shame but you should have expected this, its the City of Miami running this, possibly the worst run city ever.

I'd be interested to know how many park's parking garages have restaurants in them. I'd put money on the guess that it's not many. I've been to 10/30 current major league parks as well as three former major league parks and not one has had a restaurant in the car park. People that go to baseball games aren't expecting to eat in the parking garages. It's going to be an extra courtesy "the coolest ballpark ever made" offers.

 

I highly doubt it's going to cause a rift in attendance.

The new Orlando Magic arena up here does have a bunch of small restaurants and shops right across the street from the entrance to the arena, in a building that is a parking garage. It's been done before.

Those spaces will be occupied but not by high end shops and eatrries. This was pretty obvious to me when they were trying to get the ballpark passed.

 

All they need to do is come closer to market rates per sqft and businesses will come.

 

 

But that's the whole problem, the City idiots have messed around so long, nothing is being done, because they are holding out for some pie-in-the-sky high end joints and that is just NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. Now its basically too late, and as was said in the article, the chance has been blown about getting people to come back on non-game days to help the economy in the area.

 

I hope someone who is running the stadium concessions and they order extra food sees this, or we could be looking at a shortage of food & drinks available for opening day. Now talk about a PR disaster that would be one. It has the possibility of taking away what should be a crowning & glorious day for the Marlins.

I dont see how the chance has been blown. Its not like if it all wasnt ready day one then no one was ever going to come back. There is time to find tenants.

 

Why would the ballpark run out of food? Lol that is some retarded thinking right there.

 

Yeah ? It happened opening day a few years ago, or don't you remember that ? They plan according to how many they project they will sell, and you are supposed to take into account what you believe the surrounding vendors will also sell. That way you don't over stock or under stock....this is just common sense, what is retarded about that ? Oh I forgot it was you Squall.....we have to take extra time for you to understand these things.....

The new Orlando Magic arena up here does have a bunch of small restaurants and shops right across the street from the entrance to the arena, in a building that is a parking garage. It's been done before.

 

I said baseball stadium but okay? Who cares? Point is it won't have an affect on attendance not having them right away.

Those spaces will be occupied but not by high end shops and eatrries. This was pretty obvious to me when they were trying to get the ballpark passed.

 

All they need to do is come closer to market rates per sqft and businesses will come.

 

 

But that's the whole problem, the City idiots have messed around so long, nothing is being done, because they are holding out for some pie-in-the-sky high end joints and that is just NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. Now its basically too late, and as was said in the article, the chance has been blown about getting people to come back on non-game days to help the economy in the area.

 

I hope someone who is running the stadium concessions and they order extra food sees this, or we could be looking at a shortage of food & drinks available for opening day. Now talk about a PR disaster that would be one. It has the possibility of taking away what should be a crowning & glorious day for the Marlins.

I dont see how the chance has been blown. Its not like if it all wasnt ready day one then no one was ever going to come back. There is time to find tenants.

 

Why would the ballpark run out of food? Lol that is some retarded thinking right there.

 

Yeah ? It happened opening day a few years ago, or don't you remember that ? They plan according to how many they project they will sell, and you are supposed to take into account what you believe the surrounding vendors will also sell. That way you don't over stock or under stock....this is just common sense, what is retarded about that ? Oh I forgot it was you Squall.....we have to take extra time for you to understand these things.....

The Dolphins were also in charge of those concessions that year.

some people must misconstrue "restaurant in parking garage" as literal.

Why don't they get some advice from Obama. He knows how to create jobs. :mischief