May 30, 201313 yr Aw, geez, yet more of the same old, tired, totally mistaken BS. 1) They lost 47 mill last year, this team is the precise opposite of an ATM or "cash cow." 2) They are virtually guaranteed to lose money this year -- break-even is around 135 mill and they are unlikely to get there. "Revenue sharing" (30-40 mill) is sucked up along with all other revenue to pay expenses. 3) The sales clause penalty only applies to any amount over 250 mill (subject to adjustments.) Until March, 2014, the penalty is only 7.5%. For the 4 years thereafter, it's only 5%. After March, 2018 it's zero. Loria's not selling because he doesn't want to sell. Certainly not because he would get dinged for 2.5% or 3.75%. That's peanuts, particularly to a guy in a business (high-end art) where commissions are routinely 20-30%. If he wanted out, he'd put his 500 mill asset on the market and take his tiny 12.5 or 18.75 mill hit from the county. 4) Two years from now has nothing to do with anything. I see wait "2 years" (for the sales penalty to reach zero) here a lot and every one of those comments is made by someone who doesn't know what they're talking about. Get up to date. The new (silly) Loria-can-sell mantra should be "2018! No more Loria!" And they'd still probably be wrong. The final relocation agreement: http://www.miamidade.gov/internalservices/library/nonrelocation_agreement.pdf See page 343. 5) Others point out that Loria manipulates/hides payments to himself via the multiple entities that own the team and operate the stadium. Guess what? A mill or two is chickenfeed in this business and he doesn't need the money. Guess what else? The Marlins' financials are subject to scrutiny by MLB for compliance with, among other things, MLB-ordained debt ratios. If the Marlins, a team with a lot of debt were playing financial games, MLB would have stopped it, whether we ever heard anything about it or not. And, of course, all of the allegations of some sort of manipulation or hiding are made without a single shred of evidence. The good (and much more important) news (well, not really news as I pointed this out months ago) is that they will get another ~25 mill in national TV revenue next year and will pay 8 mill less for guys who aren't here. That's 33 mill of flexibility that they don't have this year. All the leaked financials that came out in the runup and construction of the new stadium makes posts like this from you humorous. Keep trying to convince everyone, we arent buying your bs no matter how much you try to shovel it.
May 30, 201313 yr The odd thing about this team is that it's on pace for worst ever, yet there are plenty of positives. Like, if you take away the crappy veterans, there is a young core. Especially if Chris Coghlan decides to be good again, which it seems like he's interested in doing. Also, Koehler is pitching well. Ozuna,Dietrich, Koehler and Fernandez are bright spots so far. They seem like players we can build with around Stanton. Morrison is also coming back.I'm just waiting to see what Turner, Eovaldi and Alvarez do. Not sure I buy into Koehler's success but if he continues to pitch well and one of the three I just mentioned step up, the rotation won't look so bad. Ozuna has been pretty solid, but Dietrich hasn't been that much of a bright spot. I think he has potential as a player, but he's not really showing much right now: .224/.288/.418. Koehler has been great but he's only pitched a handful of games and I'd be surprised if he sustains this level of performance. Fernandez has definitely been a bright spot considering his age and the number of starts he's had, though. Yea, I could have sworn Dietrich's OPS was higher than it is. Still, he's shown some good things so far, IMO. His OPS is hovering around average for a second baseman and he's shown some good power and his line drive rates are good.
May 30, 201313 yr And his defense has been solid, as well! Small sample size, but defensive metrics rank him as a minus defender. Overall, he's a replacement level player. Not as sh*tty as some of the washed up veterans, but not much to be impressed with. The median OPS for a qualified 2nd baseman is .764 and he's well below that. I'd rather see him starting than Solano, though.
May 30, 201313 yr And his defense has been solid, as well! Small sample size, but defensive metrics rank him as a minus defender. Hmm, weird. Not sure how that happens - his range factor is above league average and he hasn't made an error yet. But, as you said, small sample size.
May 30, 201313 yr Who said anything about "turning things around"? The point was that they won't be '62 Mutts bad when it's all said and done. Going from a less than 25% winning percentage to around .500 is certainly "turning things around"
May 30, 201313 yr And his defense has been solid, as well! Small sample size, but defensive metrics rank him as a minus defender. Hmm, weird. Not sure how that happens - his range factor is above league average and he hasn't made an error yet. But, as you said, small sample size. For what it's worth, UZR (what I looked at) is much more reliable than range factor. If we are going to look at any statistical measurement with such a small sample size, UZR would be the one to look at. Scouts seem to be mixed on his defensive ability.
May 30, 201313 yr Who said anything about "turning things around"? The point was that they won't be '62 Mutts bad when it's all said and done. I know you don't own the team, but I'd like to hear your projection for the Marlins' final record.
May 30, 201313 yr And his defense has been solid, as well! Small sample size, but defensive metrics rank him as a minus defender. Hmm, weird. Not sure how that happens - his range factor is above league average and he hasn't made an error yet. But, as you said, small sample size. For what it's worth, UZR (what I looked at) is much more reliable than range factor. If we are going to look at any statistical measurement with such a small sample size, UZR would be the one to look at. Scouts seem to be mixed on his defensive ability. Ah, I see. I use baseball-reference for my info, and they don't have UZR, for some reason.
May 30, 201313 yr Dietrich hit a couple of balls last night that might've been HR's in many stadiums. The first one (2nd AB, I believe) is definitely gone anywhere else. They need to do something with the dimensions of the ballpark. It's insane, especially now that we're bringing up actual hitters. Ozuna has been robbed of a couple HR's, as well.
May 30, 201313 yr And his defense has been solid, as well! Small sample size, but defensive metrics rank him as a minus defender. Hmm, weird. Not sure how that happens - his range factor is above league average and he hasn't made an error yet. But, as you said, small sample size. For what it's worth, UZR (what I looked at) is much more reliable than range factor. If we are going to look at any statistical measurement with such a small sample size, UZR would be the one to look at. Scouts seem to be mixed on his defensive ability. Ah, I see. I use baseball-reference for my info, and they don't have UZR, for some reason. The sample is incredibly small, either way. I'm sure he'll be just fine at 2B.
May 30, 201313 yr Dietrich hit a couple of balls last night that might've been HR's in many stadiums. The first one (2nd AB, I believe) is definitely gone anywhere else. They need to do something with the dimensions of the ballpark. It's insane, especially now that we're bringing up actual hitters. Ozuna has been robbed of a couple HR's, as well. Ruggiano's been robbed of 2-3 as well. It really is ridiculous.
May 30, 201313 yr Dietrich hit a couple of balls last night that might've been HR's in many stadiums. The first one (2nd AB, I believe) is definitely gone anywhere else. They need to do something with the dimensions of the ballpark. It's insane, especially now that we're bringing up actual hitters. Ozuna has been robbed of a couple HR's, as well. Maybe about 5 feet closer down each line, bring left center in to about 380, right center to 380 also (from 392 ...), and straight-away center field from 418 to 410 would be fine - make the triangle a bit less prominent. It's 422, I believe to the deepest part, make that 412-415 at the furthest. Is it me, or do opposing hitters not have any issue with getting the ball out of the park? Anyhow, how do those distances sound, Erick? Not insane changes, but noticeable and would make it more of a "fair" park rather than a pitchers park.
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