JMLinkinPark Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 Blue Jays signed RHP Kerry Ligtenberg, who had been with the Baltimore Orioles, to a two-year, $4.5 million contract. The Orioles didn't think Ligtenberg was worth $1.2 million for 2004. That was probably a mistake on their part, but the Blue Jays are overpaying here. Maybe Ligtenberg will pitch well enough to be worth $2.25 million per season, but no one else was going to pay him this kind of money. If the Blue Jays like him this much, perhaps they'll use him over Aquilino Lopez in the closer's role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SorianoFanHFW Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 Blue Jays signed RHP Kerry Ligtenberg, who had been with the Baltimore Orioles, to a two-year, $4.5 million contract. The Orioles didn't think Ligtenberg was worth $1.2 million for 2004. That was probably a mistake on their part, but the Blue Jays are overpaying here. Maybe Ligtenberg will pitch well enough to be worth $2.25 million per season, but no one else was going to pay him this kind of money. If the Blue Jays like him this much, perhaps they'll use him over Aquilino Lopez in the closer's role. He has a career 3.09 era. I'd take him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSwift25 Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 Oh well, I'd still rather have had a person who has closed before instead of experimenting with a set-up man turned into a closer, I mean if we're going to do that, give it to Chad Fox. Also, don't rule out the possibility of Looper returning although that's not exactly the most confidence inspiring move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnylons Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 Too bad we didnt land Lightenberg - but the FO never gave any indication it intended to. That was pure speculation on my part. That said, I agree that the BJays :w00t did overpay for him. I was thinking more like Fox money for him, or probably max $2M per. The search continues... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dolfinfan305 Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 Do you guys know of any hard throwing FA pitchers that we can go after? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dolfinfan305 Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 Maybe we can select a pitcher in the Rule 5 Draft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 Oh well, I'd still rather have had a person who has closed before instead of experimenting with a set-up man turned into a closer, I mean if we're going to do that, give it to Chad Fox. Give it to Fox? He has had his chance to close more than once, and has failed more than once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnylons Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 So has Looper. So has pretty much every closer...other than Gagne...but I am with you on this one - no thanks. Dont want Fox closing games out because I want someone better, meaner, more ferocious in there. But, that is just me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeFish Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 what about our farm for pitchers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmer_fran Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 I want Sullivan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geemoney Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 what about our farm for pitchers? Our best ones are at the lower levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 what about our farm for pitchers? Our best ones are at the lower levels. Allison in '05. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmer_fran Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 what about our farm for pitchers? Our best ones are at the lower levels. Allison in '05. I seriously doubt he will be up that quick. It would be kinda nice if they turned Allison into a closer. Sounds like he has the ideal closer stuff. I mean our pitching staff is young and one of the best in the majors, it'd be nice if we could keep our staff as is and put him in the bullpen and shut guys down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugg Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 Oh well, I'd still rather have had a person who has closed before instead of experimenting with a set-up man turned into a closer, I mean if we're going to do that, give it to Chad Fox. Also, don't rule out the possibility of Looper returning although that's not exactly the most confidence inspiring move. Technically, Ligtenberg is a closer turned into a set-up man. He was the Braves closer until he got hurt and Rocker took over. He had 30 saves in '98. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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