We don't need a thread like that because Mish said this team is move on with him but Alfaro himself makes it a little bit more interesting. 

Move on from him and acquire a starting catcher and at least one outfielder, he is neither.

And stop having a roster of 3 catchers and yes Alfaro is a catcher no matter what they say.

I think I'd be fine having Alfaro as the backup catcher. If he's playing once a week rather than 4 to 7 times a week, he might be more bearable.

I think he's case is way more complicated than Brinson, he and Brinson both the disappointing players that suddenly hitting better when the team is ready to move on from them. 

I believe this team give Alfaro as many ABs as possible in the hope of increasing his trade value at least. 

Edited August 29, 20213 yr by taiwanmarlin

38 minutes ago, taiwanmarlin said:

I think he's case is way more complicated than Brinson, he and Brinson both the disappointing players that suddenly hitting better when the team is ready to move on from them. 

I believe this team give Alfaro as many ABs as possible in the hope of increasing his trade value at least. 

 

38 minutes ago, taiwanmarlin said:

I think he's case is way more complicated than Brinson, he and Brinson both the disappointing players that suddenly hitting better when the team is ready to move on from them. 

I believe this team give Alfaro as many ABs as possible in the hope of increasing his trade value at least. 

Hard to give him AB when he's not starting. Can't start him because he'll wreck the development of the pitching staff. Can't put him in the OF because he sucks.

Put him at 3B or 1B and see what happens. If he develops any semblance of a glove at those positions and a bat you keep him as a DH/ Poor Utility next season.

If he can't do anything... you let him go and live with the fact another team signs him for a Major League Minimum and he hits .250 with pop.

 

3 hours ago, Piazza31 said:

If he can't do anything... you let him go

No trade value ?

3 hours ago, SonOfJack said:

 

He's really not like the free pass. 

1 hour ago, taiwanmarlin said:

No trade value ?

Nope. Can't hold on to a player with the hopes they develop trade value.

Play him at 3rd. He’s a completely different hitter outside of being behind the plate. He offers more power, more athleticism, and a bigger arm than BA. We need a replacement. Anybody thinking BA should be extended and is part of this teams future is insane. He’s such an overrated part of this team.

Why do people think third base is so easy to just start playing? Lol. I remember people suggesting Ozuna play third on here for a couple years when we still had Marisnick.

Alfaro has the best arm on the team, obviously, because he's been trained as a catcher. But is Anderson's that far behind? I don't think so. We've seen him in right field. He can sling it.

Now how about reactions? That's more important than straight up athleticism. Reactions and range don't come quick.

Anderson should have a much higher chance of sticking around than Alfaro at this point. Whether he should be extended is a different matter entirely, but Alfaro needs to be higher on the list to be shipped out.

3 minutes ago, Michael said:

Why do people think third base is so easy to just start playing? Lol. I remember people suggesting Ozuna play third on here for a couple years when we still had Marisnick.

Alfaro has the best arm on the team, obviously, because he's been trained as a catcher. But is Anderson's that far behind? I don't think so. We've seen him in right field. He can sling it.

Now how about reactions? That's more important than straight up athleticism. Reactions and range don't come quick.

Anderson should have a much higher chance of sticking around than Alfaro at this point. Whether he should be extended is a different matter entirely, but Alfaro needs to be higher on the list to be shipped out.

Because I played 3rd while being a catcher. It’s easy…as shit. Especially being a catcher. That’s what happens when you actually play baseball past little league. I played both for North Florida. Every day I played third I hit better. Less to worry about. The only position that’s easier is 1st.

Edited August 29, 20213 yr by ZfromCIS

How about we just sign guys or acquire guys to improve the lineup without moving players to random positions and inevitably making our defense shit?

7 minutes ago, SonOfJack said:

How about we just sign guys or acquire guys to improve the lineup without moving players to random positions and inevitably making our defense shit?

I mean how many utility guys are going to hit 246? That’s what Alfaro is doing right now. If he’s going to do that then there’s going to be a spot for him on any team. Might as well give him work at 3rd during the spring and evaluate from there. He’s already a better athlete than BA(and you’re high if you don’t think so) plus he has more pop and a bigger arm.

Edited August 29, 20213 yr by ZfromCIS

26 minutes ago, ZfromCIS said:

Because I played 3rd while being a catcher. It’s easy…as shit. Especially being a catcher. That’s what happens when you actually play baseball past little league. I played both for North Florida. Every day I played third I hit better. Less to worry about. The only position that’s easier is 1st.

Ah, one of those "I played in college so I know more than you" types.

 

Leave that shit at the login screen.

8 minutes ago, Michael said:

Ah, one of those "I played in college so I know more than you" types.

 

Leave that shit at the login screen.

And coaching is one of the ways I make a living. So yeah…I know more than you. 

It’s funny how some of love to talk like you know so much but then when someone actually has a resume and tells you that you don’t have a clue about what you’re talking about your so soft and go “oh you did this” and try to act as if your unknowledgeable opinion is correct. 
 

Wanna know how easy 3rd is? Multiple Cardinals have gone on record that Yadi is one of the smoothest dudes they seen at 3rd and he can’t even fucking move with 2 bad hips lol. 

Edited August 29, 20213 yr by ZfromCIS

3 hours ago, taiwanmarlin said:

No trade value ?

I don't believe he has any trade value. You trade him for a PTBNL or a Single A minor leaguer and be grateful you got him off your books.

1 hour ago, ZfromCIS said:

Because I played 3rd while being a catcher. It’s easy…as shit. Especially being a catcher. That’s what happens when you actually play baseball past little league. I played both for North Florida. Every day I played third I hit better. Less to worry about. The only position that’s easier is 1st.

This is only slightly above the "I'm a pro at MLB The Show" card. I fully believe most MLB players "can play" 3B, but can they play it well enough to be an asset at 3B? We don't need a warm body there, we need a dependable fielder there.

Pretty sure 3B at North Florida and 3B in MLB are slightly different for what it is worth.

1 hour ago, Michael said:

Why do people think third base is so easy to just start playing? Lol. I remember people suggesting Ozuna play third on here for a couple years when we still had Marisnick.

Alfaro has the best arm on the team, obviously, because he's been trained as a catcher. But is Anderson's that far behind? I don't think so. We've seen him in right field. He can sling it.

Now how about reactions? That's more important than straight up athleticism. Reactions and range don't come quick.

Anderson should have a much higher chance of sticking around than Alfaro at this point. Whether he should be extended is a different matter entirely, but Alfaro needs to be higher on the list to be shipped out.

Play him at 3rd because even if he doesn't get to the ball, someone will be behind him anyway to scoop it up and throw it to the infield. 3B is incredibly hard to play, but also has very low expectations.

How many times will he have to field a ball at 3rd a game, how many times will he have to hold the runner on the bag. His arm is good enough to get it to first with speed. Lets hope he catches it.

Alfaro is playing better recently but I don't think he's done enough to justify finding a spot for. We can and should do better.

2 minutes ago, Piazza31 said:

Play him at 3rd because even if he doesn't get to the ball, someone will be behind him anyway to scoop it up and throw it to the infield

Geez this sounds like something a contending team should do. Unless you're expecting we will just not contend I guess.

1 minute ago, Piazza31 said:

Play him at 3rd because even if he doesn't get to the ball, someone will be behind him anyway to scoop it up and throw it to the infield. 3B is incredibly hard to play, but also has very low expectations.

How many times will he have to field a ball at 3rd a game, how many times will he have to hold the runner on the bag. His arm is good enough to get it to first with speed. Lets hope he catches it.

Every position is incredibly hard and it has its own responsibilities. It’s not like you can go and change a position when you want to. You gotta take reps at it. You gotta see how a player moves and reacts. Anybody that’s trying to compare trying Alfaro who actually can grade athletically as a 3rd baseman to a tight hipped, limited athlete like Ozuna is insane. If they have confidence in him playing LF and reacting to a ball’s position in the air then they shouldn’t have a problem giving him reps at 3rd in the spring and seeing what he can do. All I know is his improvement at the plate since moving is extremely positive. He’s risen I think 20 points when it comes to his average since then.

4 minutes ago, SonOfJack said:

Geez this sounds like something a contending team should do. Unless you're expecting we will just not contend I guess.

I'm suggesting it right now until the end of the season to get him AB's and see what he has. If he's capable enough and surprised with the bat and glove enough.... keep him one more year as a Utility C/1b/3b/OF/DH and pray he finally brings something to the table. If he can't hit for shit and can't play any other position for shit- he's useless. Send him to the MCL and call it a day (Major Crickett League).

 

I hope no one here played Cricket for Jamaica in the 90's.

5 minutes ago, SonOfJack said:

Geez this sounds like something a contending team should do. Unless you're expecting we will just not contend I guess.

@SonOfJack he’s going to have a spot even if he’s not a catcher. You’re not finding bench guys who can play the corners and 1st that bat .246(his current avg) for the money you can sign him for. I’m with you if they try to play him at catcher again. He clearly can’t handle a catcher’s pre game prep and his hitting prep well.