January 12, 200422 yr According to rotoworld, the Expos would consider trading Livan Hernandez. While he may not be the greatest pitcher around, all those people who seem to think we're in on the Maddux sweepstakes should look at Livan too. He is an absolute work-horse, which is good because it eases the pressure on AJ to return because we know that Livan'll probably stay healthy, and Livan is still a "local hero" with the fans. Bringing him back would only be a 1 year commitment (1 year $6 million), and it would be a nice story for the local media. Not very likely, but a nice thought to toss around... :mischief2
January 12, 200422 yr According to rotoworld, the Expos would consider trading Livan Hernandez. While he may not be the greatest pitcher around, all those people who seem to think we're in on the Maddux sweepstakes should look at Livan too. He is an absolute work-horse, which is good because it eases the pressure on AJ to return because we know that Livan'll probably stay healthy, and Livan is still a "local hero" with the fans. Bringing him back would only be a 1 year commitment (1 year $6 million), and it would be a nice story for the local media. Not very likely, but a nice thought to toss around... :mischief2 IMO, Livan > Maddux at this point of their careers
January 12, 200422 yr And he probably wouldn't take a lot to get from the Expos. If Minaya is trying to get under payroll there, it wouldn't take more than one or two B-level prospects.
January 12, 200422 yr IMO, Livan > Maddux at this point of their careers Agreed. Livan is coming off probably his best year, and he would jump right to the two spot in our rotation IMO.
January 12, 200422 yr In addition, Livan would love to play here (and the fan base would love it too) Remember "I love you Miami" It would be a bigger PR boost than signing Maddux.
January 12, 200422 yr It would be great to have Livan back. Last year he made $3.8M. Anyone know the details of his contract, and how much he is due for this year? Not sure why the Expos would want to trade him as he is worth the $3.8M.
January 12, 200422 yr I would still rather have Livan than Maddux. But with Roger Clemens signing with Houston at 5 million, I believe Maddux must lower his 8 million bucks demands. Thoughts?
January 12, 200422 yr Author It would be great to have Livan back. Last year he made $3.8M. Anyone know the details of his contract, and how much he is due for this year? Not sure why the Expos would want to trade him as he is worth the $3.8M. He's got one year left at $6 million
January 12, 200422 yr It would be great to have Livan back. Last year he made $3.8M. Anyone know the details of his contract, and how much he is due for this year? Not sure why the Expos would want to trade him as he is worth the $3.8M. He's got one year left at $6 million Does anyone has any idea on what the Expos are looking for in trades? This doesn't make any sense, since they traded Vazquez. I guess is the scenario of trade now in order to get something in return.
January 12, 200422 yr Author It would be great to have Livan back. Last year he made $3.8M. Anyone know the details of his contract, and how much he is due for this year? Not sure why the Expos would want to trade him as he is worth the $3.8M. He's got one year left at $6 million Does anyone has any idea on what the Expos are looking for in trades? This doesn't make any sense, since they traded Vazquez. I guess is the scenario of trade now in order to get something in return. My guess is they'd want close to major league level talent in return. They're not under pressure to deal him...
January 12, 200422 yr I would rather us go after Damian Moss. He could start until/if Burnett is ready and could then become a lefty in the pen. Maybe even a closer someday? And he is cheaper and sure, a bit of a reclamation project. He has good stuff though.
January 12, 200422 yr though a part of me would love to have him back, particularly because he was so good last season, i realize it's probably not worth it for $6M and a prospect. to tell you the truth, i would have rather we had just kept redman. "what golf clubs?"
January 12, 200422 yr Author though a part of me would love to have him back, particularly because he was so good last season, i realize it's probably not worth it for $6M and a prospect. to tell you the truth, i would have rather we had just kept redman. "what golf clubs?" Yeah, I agree with the keeping Redman, and the fact that Livan is probably not worth the $6 million, but the intangibles he brings, and the "warm fuzzies" he'll give to a lot of the fans (much like Conine did) is probably worth it. Doubt it'll happen though...
January 12, 200422 yr Livan's not going anywhere. It was Vazquez or Livan being dealt and Vaz was the one dealt.
January 12, 200422 yr I say we bring Joe Orzulak , Pat Rapp, Greg Zaun, and Bret Barberie ....................
January 12, 200422 yr I'd prefer Maddux, mostly because he is consistent, he could teach the pitchers alot, he would make a bigger splash for the team, and (as someone mentioned earlier) he most likely will come cheaper thanks to Roger getting 5 mil. If not, I'd still prefer Damian Moss.
January 13, 200422 yr livan could be a good guy for the bullpen. you my friend, are smoking some good ass crack
January 13, 200422 yr livan could be a good guy for the bullpen. you my friend, are smoking some good ass crack if you get livan to fill in for AJ and then Burnett comes back, which of the two would you choose to put in the bullpen? Livan is clutch and can pitch every night.
January 13, 200422 yr In addition, Livan would love to play here (and the fan base would love it too) Remember "I love you Miami" It would be a bigger PR boost than signing Maddux. Would getting both Livan and Orlando Hernandez be a bigger PR boost?
January 13, 200422 yr Author I'd prefer Maddux, mostly because he is consistent, he could teach the pitchers alot, he would make a bigger splash for the team, and (as someone mentioned earlier) he most likely will come cheaper thanks to Roger getting 5 mil. If not, I'd still prefer Damian Moss. The Clemens signing does nothing to market value. Teams weren't negotiating with Clemens, it was "if I come back it'll be for the Astros." When Michael Jordan came back with the Wizards, he played for the veteran's minimum, and Mario Lemieux doesn't even make a salary, he returned it to the team so they could pay Marc Andre-Fleury. Circumstances like that don't affect market value. His value may come down because it's essentially a 3 week deadline, and then pitchers and catchers report to camp. Maddux has very little negotiating leverage at this point because sitting out won't create a bidder for him (like it would for Pudge) and he isn't getting any younger...
January 13, 200422 yr If not, I'd still prefer Damian Moss. Im not too big on him. He walks waaay too many batters. Even his one good year in Atlanta, he Ked 111 and walked 90. He might be worth signing and sending to the minors.
January 13, 200422 yr livan could be a good guy for the bullpen. you my friend, are smoking some good ass crack LOL!!! HAHAHAHA! :lol
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