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I don't hate the yankees and will comment on this. The truth is theres still about 2 months till trade deadline time. If by mid-July its clear the yanks are going to need a miracle to contend, they shouild start trading away old guys and get some young guys. Its ok to rebuild, because with their core they can still compete next year. It won't hurt to trade some guys away for some good young pitching. Their biggest problem was they gave away a lot of great pitching talent for older hitters. In the beginning it had worked because the original group of veterans such as Paul O'Neil and Chuck Knobloch were proven winners and an asset to the team chemistry. Randy Johnson, A-Rod, and Giambi are all about the $$$ and not the team It isn't Arod and Giambi that are the problem. Its how the yanks have spent on pitching. Their idea of going young is overpaying for injury prone guys like Jaret Wright and Carl Pavano. The pitching is what hasn't worked out for them, and its beginning to show this year. The hitting is fine, they lose all these 8-7 and 9-8 games and stuff this year, b/c the hitting is fine but the pitching can't hold up. Its Texas Rangers style baseball.

I don't hate the yankees and will comment on this. The truth is theres still about 2 months till trade deadline time. If by mid-July its clear the yanks are going to need a miracle to contend, they shouild start trading away old guys and get some young guys. Its ok to rebuild, because with their core they can still compete next year. It won't hurt to trade some guys away for some good young pitching.

Ultimate proof that its all been about pursuing her own political agenda is this quote that America is "rapidly descending into with nary a check or balance: a fascist corporate wasteland" Her son's death is a tragedy and although she makes some good statements in her post about party loyalty and such, her igornance about the state of the country shows what kind of person she is. You can hate a president, a political party, or policy, but making those blanket statements about the U.S. is just some good ole fashioned ignorance. Thank god shes retiring, the fact she got this much attention is nauseating.

That chili sauce is so spicy and delicious.

Hindsight always plays into these conversations. Josh Booty was supposed to be a very good player but it didn't turn out that way. Then teams get lucky with late picks like Mike Piazza.

Exactly, it makes more sense to send Tank down than Gardner. Gardner isn't going to improve, but he can be a steady and consistent inning eater out of the pen. And for the most part hes been able to give us solid outings (sure philly lit him up but that happens to everyone) Tanks needs to work on control and AAA is a good place for that where he wont be costing the marlins any games.

Sinker ballers are great to have. I'm curious to see what mitre does while starting against teams the second time around. But as of right now I have confidence in mitre

while I agree with both of the above, can someone explain how I wasn't cursing, I wasn't being rude, yet I was getting looks from Marlins fans and the Met fans didn't care? I spend half my time in college in CT...so between the college crowd and the NY fan base and the BOS fan base, I'm used to the diehard atmosphere and it has made me more of a fan. I will CONTINUE to get loud and heckle even when our team is down. It's part of the game and I love that part! Right, when the rain came down hard I was yelling like a maniac for the marlins to rally. The fans here don't know how to be fans. We had runners on first and third one inning with one out (the 6th perhaps) and some douchebag in front of me stands up trying to get people to do the wave. Problem was he wouldnt sit down and I missed everything that happened in that inning. Screaming and getting rowdy is great, but baseball etiquette is a must. Yelling from your seat is a tremendous way to be a good fan, then stand up and yell when we score or get a nice out. '03 run I started a friendly phuck the phillies chant, and some bandwagoner was telling me to stop with the cursing. Dumbass Well, there are kids out at the ballpark. There really werent any in the area i was sitting. We were in the high upper deck that phillies game and there were probably only like 20 people within an earshot of us

Fredi does scream at managers often from the dugout, he just hadn't come out to argue.

while I agree with both of the above, can someone explain how I wasn't cursing, I wasn't being rude, yet I was getting looks from Marlins fans and the Met fans didn't care? I spend half my time in college in CT...so between the college crowd and the NY fan base and the BOS fan base, I'm used to the diehard atmosphere and it has made me more of a fan. I will CONTINUE to get loud and heckle even when our team is down. It's part of the game and I love that part! Right, when the rain came down hard I was yelling like a maniac for the marlins to rally. The fans here don't know how to be fans. We had runners on first and third one inning with one out (the 6th perhaps) and some douchebag in front of me stands up trying to get people to do the wave. Problem was he wouldnt sit down and I missed everything that happened in that inning. Screaming and getting rowdy is great, but baseball etiquette is a must. Yelling from your seat is a tremendous way to be a good fan, then stand up and yell when we score or get a nice out. '03 run I started a friendly phuck the phillies chant, and some bandwagoner was telling me to stop with the cursing. Dumbass

IMO Kruk is way worse than Phillips. Kruk messes up everything he says. One example (of course a marlins bias on my part) was when he said the Marlins traded away Adrian Gonzalez during one of our firesales. Which is wholly inaccurate considering we traded him for Urbina the year we won the WS. Sure its a small thing, but on a show like baseball tonight, you need to get things like that right.

The Shield is awesome. Problem is the seasons are too short, I think the finale is next week already. By the way I've disliked Shane since the first episode of the first season.

another thing that bothered me is a lot of kids were mets fans. I understand parents want their kids to follow in thier footsteps and its hard to watch their kids root for another team, but if they live in Miami, and were born in Miami, they should be Marlins fans...it's their home team! Also, we can't rely on bandwagoners...Miami sucks for bandwagoners, they only support CHAMPIONS, not winners, not losers, not just coming out to games. The Heat, Marlins, Panthers, and Fins did not sell out this year (minus a few sellouts vs NE teams) and the Heat especially were coming off a championship. Hence the term bandwagoner, they show up in good times. This isn't Chicago where baseball has been around for 110 years, this isn't boston or new york where its been around since the 1890s. This is Miami, a city thats only really been a city for half a century, and whos baseball, hockey, and basketball teams have been around for less than 20 years. I don't know how the heats attendance numbers compared to the rest of the league, but with wade and shaq injured throughout the season, I'm sure that hurt attendance. Everywhere you go, you have a core group of fans and then bandwagoners and fairweather fans, its the nature of sports. It just so happens in places like Chicago, the tradition is so engrained in the culture that you go even if the team is losing. If the marlins are still around by then, in the year 2093, if we still have the kind of attendance we do now, then people can bitch and moan.

I think the bigger issue here is about the commission trying to go solo on building the stadium. The spring training issue is a non-issue seeing as the lease doesnt expire in another 15 years. The name change is a Great idea, and the team should have been named Miami Marlins in the first place. If the county can get this done, I'm all for it. But what does this mean in terms of getting it done, it seems as if the state subsidy isn't going to be necessary. What are the chances the stadium gets done w/o the state?

Obermueller has one bad start and everyone jumps on him. I realize he has marginal major league talent, but hes done an ok job for us. Having his arm in the pen for long relief will be a boost for the club, since we currently don't have a long reliever. God knows when nolasco or sanchez will be back. I think Sanchez can come back and be effective, although Kim has pitched wel, I rather have him in the pen.

Regardless of the alleged 04-05 managing problems, McKeon was our best manager, the 3 plus .500 seasons say so.

went to all 3 games and marlins fan easily outnumbered mets fans You were at home. If you have to clarify that, then that's sad. It's not like it's a Milwaukee/Chicago thing here either. No, b/c the media makes it seem like it was all mets fans there. I was at the games myself. Saturday's game is the reason why fans don't come to the stadium more often. The bandwagon/fairweather fans which all teasm especially newer teams need to succeed in attendance numbers showed up for that game to see our team get raked 7-2, stranding runners on base every inning seeming very overmatched by the Mets. And not only that it would rain every few minutes with the big one coming late in the game. Many of those fans will think twice before driving 45 minutes to an hour to go to the stadium, especially if its cloudy out, like it usually is every afternoon in the miami summer. We need a new stadium. f*** A.J.... he was just jealous he was not able to pitch during the 03 stretch runs and playoffs.

Ron Paul is a libertarian (sure hes a republican now but hes a former member of the lp and holds on to the rhetoric) and unfortunately the political reality is that he has no legitimate chance of winning this primary, so the next best thing to do is just bring these issues to light. The goal is not the destruction of Guiliani, its to spread an alternative message. For example, his anti-interventionist rhetoric is something many republicans haven't heard in the last few years and its an alternative worth addressing and discussing. Hes been able to get on the news with some of these ideas and thats a victory for his ideology and policies. Its baby steps for people who try to stary from any of the major political parties's areas of mainstream thought.

Olsen's main problems are mental. His current pitches are fine, of course it never hurts to improve his changeup, but really its lack of control over his emotions that kills him. Willis has a similar problem, gets too anxious, starts pitchign his next pitches with little time in between and starts losing consistency with his arm angles.

Proof that McKeon does remember player's names. He's also always been a big fan of Kaat, talks about it in his book.

Yenta, I think Phantom's argument is that pay shouldnt be based on seniority. Please chime in if I'm wrong.

And your not convinced it would be negative for our soldiers, but apparently the majority of the congress disagrees with your assessment. True, however, they have jobs at stake...and I don't. Finally we can agree on something.

Holy sh*t, we got Don Mattingly? Not only that but giving a player the surname 'ballgame' started long before mattingly. For example good ole Teddy Ballgame. I like the nickname donny Ballgame for dontrelle. Much better than D-Train which is a stupid New York media nickname, No where in South Florida have I ever seen any type of a D-Train in our public transit system.

The 2006 Election wasn't really close....Democrats won the vast majority of Congressional and Gubnatorial elections... I'm not convinced that a withdrawal would backfire against our soldiers. I believe it might even lower violence somewhat, and have the potential to give the Iraqi government the security that they finally need in order to solve some of their many problems. Just like in 02 and 04 the republicans won most seats as well. But all of them were close bc all the changes in seats or open seats where won by a few percentage point. So 2006 was extremely close. Especially TN, VA, and a few other senatorial seats. And your not convinced it would be negative for our soldiers, but apparently the majority of the congress disagrees with your assessment.

Since I guess it's no longer en vogue to trash Mitre around here, I'll leave you with one thought. Mitre's not a work-horse. He doesn't have a complete game this season, has gone past 7 innings only twice. In one more star than Anibal Sanchez, Mitre has allowed one more run, yet his ERA is half of Sanchez. There are plenty of runs being scored off him. When you think about it, who on this staff is a work horse? Maybe Johnson. He's about it. And for the record, I'm not sold on Mitre at all. Three good games mean nothing to me considering his history. This is the first time Mitre has been allowed to have any kind of consistency in a starting role. Last year he got hurt after two starts and in the cubs he spot started. So really there is no history to look at in assessing his role as a starter. Raw numbers don't tell the whole story, some guys aren't good without consistency, some guys aren't good out of the bullpen, its thew nature of different guys and the game in general