LHPMarlin

I guess I'm a diehard b/c I have a season ticket package. And the product on the field this year, in addition to being bad, is boring. Yesterday was bad - poor crowed, no excitement - really no reason to be at the game. There is simply no comparison b/w this year's team and last year's in terms of product on the field.

MLB is the only sport where wonks like many of the posters here openly cheer the non-competiveness of a franchise. I guess anybody who wants to see entertaining baseball is "stupid". I grew up a Reds fan and am now a Marlins season ticket holder. The Reds have failed in their efforts to dismantle the franchise to create a "sustainable" (or whatever the buzzword du jour is) product. So, I'm skeptical of the rah-rah, let's trade off everyone of value so we suck for 5 years, attitude.

Loria agreed to pay money for the team to try to be competitive last year. They go out and get Tazawa and Ziegler. I refuse to blame that on Loria.

The starting pitching has been better than expected but the run production has certainly not. And, I get the mention of the same record last year, but last year the team had a horrendous April that put them in a hole the rest of the year. I seriously doubt this team will be able to go on a run like last year's did through the summer.

The Marlins are 10th in the NL in fielding percentage. That might not be an advanced metric but it is telling. I can’t understand how anyone could watch this team and think it’s the “best defensive team in baseball.” Good God that is ridiculous.

So, you think they traded Yelich because he asked to be traded? If so, why didn't they trade Realmuto. They obviously traded Yelich for financial reasons.

If being almost impossibly awful qualifies as “exciting” then how about Adam Conley. He has a 19 ERA in three starts at AAA.

So you're saying that Jeter's plan should be to behave like Loria - basically do whatever he wants for the time being because nobody will remember 5 years from now? Just like how everybody forgot all of the bad stuff Loria did over time? I get that you guys want to support Jeter and his tearing down of the club, but stuff like this is a totally different story, imo.

I'm a lawyer and I don't agree with this. This tactic is doing real harm to Jeter/the Marlins. You may say they don't care, their approval ratings are already in the dumps, etc...But they have principled defenses to their baseball moves. This looks like a Loria-esque attempt to take advantage of/screw with local government.

Yeah, it was ST and we can see with Brinson how big of a difference the lights being on can make. But, he did kill it at ST. There would have been no reasonable explanation for him to start the season in AAA while some scrub was manning CF for the Marlins.

I don't understand legally how the Marlins could claim to be anything other than a U.S. citizen. This is not like a scenario where a company does business in other jurisdictions and claims citizenship in one of them. The Marlins' business is to play baseball in the United States. Their headquarters are unquestionably in Miami.

Brinson killed it in ST so they absolutely had to keep him up. They may have to send him down soon, though, to get his confidence back. As for those of you who say you "don't care about losses", I'm a season ticket holder so I do care about how the team does on the field. And last night reminded me of last year - just implosion by the bullpen.

Here's what makes no sense and is worth talking about imo - having this type of attendance with new ownership. It may not be shocking now, but if a year ago someone said that Loria would sell the team to a Derek Jeter-run ownership group, fans would have been thrilled. Rebuild or not, you would assume that fans would come out to the ballpark in at least as large of numbers as they did in the Loria regime. After all, many people said they were staying away because of Loria.

Severino is more "energetic" (in a rah-rah way) than Waltz, which I guess is what they are looking for. For example, during the interview with Hill the other day he made some embarrassing comment about the Marlins future being a "championship one", or something to that effect. He's all in on the "Just getting started" story line.