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If I had to choose between Uggla Solano and Bonafacio I would take Solano over all to start every day obviously. But Uggla can add a popper to this line up that we really need so I don't know. If I had to choose only one I will pick Solano for sure he's durable and a great fielder he just doesn't have that much power. But his average will be better then Uggla. Bony is fast and plays great defense but he hits for less power and less average then Solano. He is just a little faster. If I had to choose one yeah I take Solano but Uggla can add a few dingers to the situation and that would really help especially since we have a third base man with one Homer for the first have of the year. I say we keep Solano and sign Uggla and then get rid of Lucas and Uggla plays 3rd base and McGee plays first when there's a southpaw in the mound. But keep Solano he's pretty good there and reliable in the clutch and on defense. He doesn't get hurt either. He is probally the best physical player besides Stanton and Ozuna. Very funny stuff. SomethingFishy reprises his great, embarrassing and unending love of Beefcake: 1) I would take Solano over all to start every day obviously 2) I will pick Solano for sure he's durable and a great fielder [beefcake!] 3) But his [solano's] average will be better then Uggla 4) If I had to choose one yeah I take Solano 5) I say we keep Solano 6) But keep Solano he's pretty good there and reliable in the clutch and on defense 7) He [solano] doesn't get hurt either. [beefcake!] 8) He [solano] is probally [LOL] the best physical player [beefcake!] It's totally obvious (and has been virtually from the first post of "Teal Deal") that this idiot is the reincarnation of SomethingFishy, a slobbering, delusional dufus (or pure troll) who couldn't spell or punctuate his way out of a paper bag if his life depended on it. Don't just ban his ID, ban his IP address and any anonymizer he comes up with. Make the site unviewable to this utter and total moron. Leave him to find another way to express his unrequited beefcake love.

Hutton will die with his boots on. Grooming Wilson? There's always the mute button.

IIRC, 4th or 5th inning.

One more game and he's back to being relegated to pre/post-game and sideline in-game crap. Where he belongs, although even that's annoying. I propose they offer him to the Mutts broadcast team, since he loves his Daddy's team so much, for a broadcaster to be named later or cash considerations, say, $5 or so. Either that or offer him to the Billy's Bunch kiddie show, he'd fit right in. He can tell stories about hanging around the Mutts clubhouse when he was a little kid.

We're learning what it's like to watch this team without Stanton, since the Stanton of April/May/June hasn't been there for the last 2 weeks. He's 7 for 45 with 8 BB since 6/29. No XBH. No HBP. 1 SF. .156/.278/.156/.434. Ugh. As in Ugglaesque. (But Uggla is 34 and will never recover much, if at all from his '14 line of .162/.241/.231/.472.) Before 6/29? .316/.410/.596/1.006. Over just 12 games, Stanton's missing about 7 1B, 3 2B and 3 HR, based on his pre-6/29 pace. Instead of being 5-7, they could easily have been 7-5 or 8-4. Win all 5 one-run games because Stanton was hitting like the maniac he usually is? 10-2. When Stanton performs normally, this team performs entirely differently, as in they win more than they lose. Anyone who wants to trade Stanton for a bag of prospects (or anything else) is, quite frankly, crazy because watching this team minus Stanton would be an unending series of 5 and 7s or 4 and 8s all the way to the end of the year.

I looked at that pic and thought, hmm, that sure looks like WC. Chick is blonde, so that fits. Nah, couldn't be. Just some guy with a blonde.

To vapid, I would add: Awful. Insipid. Banal. Cringe-inducing. Clichéd. Boring. Out of his depth. Babbling. Horrendous. Trite. Annoying.

It is. Elections are important. MLB's BS "vote a thousand times, no problem" demeans the entire concept. Not good. In fact, really, really stupid. Never mind that it primarily sucks for the purposes of selecting MLB All-stars. It's a (bad) joke in all respects.

OK, despite the best efforts of the Marlins, Hutton, Waltz and the rest of the TV shills, miscellaneous Japanese pitchers McGehee played with, other buddies of McGehee and Loria's 1,000 personal votes, McGehee finished 5th. Dead last. Right where he started. What a surprise. However, I can't find the actual "vote" totals. Anywhere. Perhaps MLB is embarrassed by the whole ridiculous idea of fan "voting." All of this fan "voting" crap should be dispensed with, it's just dumb. Not to mention pernicious. Anyone who can "vote" a thousand or 10 thousand or a million times in some BS MLB "election" might wind up thinking he should be able to vote more than once in an actual election. Loria should be embarrassed about contributing to this nonsense while accomplishing nothing other than proving once again that Marlins fans are few and far between and are ineffective.

Hey, the thread was exhausted, may as well pursue something else mentioned on the thread. Like crummy, sh!tty, blind, motha-effing umpires. But, if I'm not mistaken, that was their 21st 1-run win. Which ties them with PIT for the most in the NL, maybe in MLB. Pretty amazing for a ~.500 team. The same could be said of PIT. Neither team would be anywhere near contention if they weren't scrappy and able to pull off unlikely, close wins.

Did Piazza do that? "You're" is misspelled as "your" not once, but three times. :lol Kidding. Just kidding. Really. But, whoever did what is an entirely accurate commentary on an incompetent ump is apparently, by virtue either of being unable to spell or understand contractions, unable to comprehend the unintended irony of "don't make a statement that shows your [sic] a complete moron." Other than that, I completely agree with the sentiment that Davidson (and a few other total incompetents) should be fired. But, incompetent umps are members of a union, so forget that. With umps in general getting about half of challenged replay calls wrong, I can't wait for the further expansion of the reviewable universe, not to mention the day when balls and strikes are called electronically and taken out of the hands of incompetents. Think Buckner and a few others in addition to Davidson. Can't happen soon enough. No more "he has a small/large strike zone today." No more "well, at least he's calling it for both pitchers." No more "if you're not throwing strikes/around the plate, you don't get that call." No more "a 10-year vet probably gets that call." No more "the catcher had to move across the plate, so he's not going to get the call." Imagine an ump behind the plate who makes only reviewable safe/out calls. Reviewable HBP calls. Reviewable catcher or batter interference calls. Reviewable foul/fair ball calls. Reviewable fan interference calls. It's not that I hate umps, I just hate incompetent umps. Who are protected by their union. Why do a bunch of guys making an average of 200K for 7 months of work need a union? To protect the incompetents among them.

McGehee is just a class guy all the way around: “That’s [hrs] the cool number kids, anybody voting likes to see. I get it from that standpoint,� McGehee said. “But my job isn’t to make All-Star teams. My job is to try to help this team win. Like any sport, there are guys that try to do the small things to help their team and make a big difference. “For me to be back in the big leagues is rewarding enough as it is. If in December when I signed you had asked anybody if I’d be having this conversation — myself included — I wouldn’t have taken the bet. Just to be in the conversation it means a lot to me. I couldn’t ask for a better start to the season. Make it or not [to the All-Star Game], it’s not going to change my approach and what I try to accomplish the second half of the season.� How many more homers does McGehee think he would have if he wasn’t playing the majority of his games in spacious Marlins Park? “Eight or nine,� he said. “I think there are some ballparks where they would get out and others where they were borderline homers, but it’s not where we’re playing,� McGehee continued. “Honestly I have no complaints about the ballpark because I love playing here. For my game it works well for me. It’s fast. The outfield is big. Infield is pretty fast. So you get rewarded for hitting the ball hard. That’s all you can do as a hitter anyway.� McGehee said hitting few homers in the first half of the season are nothing new for him. He said that in the minors it happened to him all the time. “I’d go into the All-Star break with two and I’d finish up with 10 or 12 or whatever,� he said. What has made McGehee happy are moments like the one in the fifth inning Tuesday. With a runner on second, the score tied at 2 and first base open with one out, the Phillies elected to pitch to Stanton instead of intentionally walking him to face McGehee. Stanton, who leads the National League with 15 intentional walks, drove in the go-ahead run. “It makes me feel like I’ve helped him a little bit,� McGehee said. “By no means do I deserve any of the credit for what he’s done. But just the more opportunities he gets the better off we are as a team. To me, that’s gratifying enough.� http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/07/03/4217567/miami-marlins-casey-mcgehee-is.html I love this guy. I hope we keep him around since Moran isn't ready to tear it up. There are just not that many guys around who are smart enough to figure out what they were doing wrong (trying to hit HRs,) go off to Japan to fix it, and come back and resurrect their MLB career by relentlessly carrying out a plan, HRs be damned. I absolutely hate the totally stupid idea of fan (multiple and repeated) All-Star voting, but he makes me want to vote for him.

Great, more beefcake. The guy better be responsible for winning a game or two or he's gonna enjoy reading about himself on this board even less.

Oh, rubbish. The city and county AND Loria took no skin off of their own asses at all -- TOURISTS are paying for the 2/3rds of the stadium. Loria's approximately 1/3rd contribution is 40 years worth of rent, which he was going to pay somewhere, regardless. The only city/county local-taxpayer money involved is the 50 mill that was already obligated for Orange Bowl renovations long before the stadium as it exists was a gleam in anyones eye. There's no way to know absolutely if Loria's threats to move were real, but it's a pretty good bet that he would have -- he was damned sick and tired of the football stadium and the ridiculously crummy lease he had. Anything, anywhere would have been better than that, so why would he stay absent a new stadium? The best outcome would have been a stadium where Loria paid 100% of the cost. Sports owners should pay for their own stuff. We got the second-best outcome -- stick the tourists. Third-best would be stick the locals, but no local pols were going to do that. Any other outcome would have involved the Marlins being in some other city.

He is terrible. Horrible. But, he might get better -- Conine got better. Not a lot better, but better. At lest he's not Wilson terrible. That never gets better.

Mr. Beefcake: Wilson's Defensive Player of the Year for the Marlins -- 2013. Yes, it's actually true. Never mind those 8 errors. http://miami.marlins.mlb.com/news/article/mia/infielder-donovan-solano-named-marlins-top-defensive-player?ymd=20131107&content_id=63769442&vkey=news_mia Hasn't committed an error this year. At least not according to the official scorers, yet he manages to totally blow not one, but two plays in one inning, with the effing game on the line. Then, there's that stellar line -- 188/244/238/482. He truly is the turd that won't flush. Which is probably more of a commentary on a total lack of infield depth than the totally useless Mr. 5' 9" Beefcake. And Redmond not only babbles about how it was "in the heat of battle" but can't be brought to PH for this moron. If I never saw him in a Marlins uniform again, it would be too soon. Unfortunately, he'll probably be out there again today. And tomorrow...

I leave the room with Gregg pitching at 4-2 in the 8th with 2 outs, what can possibly go wrong? Yeah, he's a loser, but how can he screw this up? I expect to return to between-inning commercials. I return to 4-4. I hear something about a HR. No, wait, it's worse than that, it's back to back HRs. Can you DFA a manager? Nobody would possibly claim him, then we can send him down.

You just can't stop, can you? Loria deserves little of what is thrown at him. Not none of it, but little of it. Going on 2 decades? Loria's been a MLB owner for 15 years, not "going on" 20. To compare him in any way to goofy Marge is beyond ridiculous. When will you be registering LoriaSucks.com?

What? Pants, not shoes. :lol The problem is that both you and Churchill were and are right.

I this image in my head where anytime anyone says something bad about Loria, a signal goes off outside of ...'s house like the bat signal and he springs into action Say, Spike, why don't you and curvy and maybe DCFishFan and a few others start a board called LoriaSucks.com or LoriaIsACheapBastard.com or WeHateLoria.com or LoriaIsAThief.com or, well, you get the idea. I'm sure you can come up with the optimal Loria-hating-despising-trashing name. I'll even sign up to be your punching bag. I'll provide facts and debunking of goofy claims, and then everyone can deny the truth. What could be more fun than that? Since south Florida (not to mention most of the rest of the country) is a repository of drooling Loria-haters who love to spout venom and heap opprobrium on the Dark Lord of Owners, such a board should attract a very wide following, far larger than the mere few dozens here. Get it done.

I watched the Rays last night and Staats was more annoying than usual, but not as annoying as Wilson is as a matter of course.

Eh, curveball spouts the same crap over and over -- Loria is evil, the end. What else is new? The Marlins will listen to anyone, as will any MLB team. Listening to what are (99% of the time) insufficient offers means nothing. But, merely listening to an offer, according to curveball, means that because 1) we traded Cabrera when there was no possible way to keep him in the old football stadium, that therefore 2) we will trade Stanton when we are in a new stadium and have new revenues, not to mention 24-25 mill/yr of new national TV revenue, enough by itself to sign Stanton FOREVER if Loria wants to blow it all on one guy. That's our curveball! Master of illogical Loria-hatred. We may or may not trade Stanton. If we do, it won't be because we couldn't afford him. If we make him an offer, you won't hear a peep about it until negotiations are complete -- signed or not. Just as you didn't hear a word about extending Hanley or JJ or Nolasco until the deals were done. Or, for that matter, the signing of Delgado in '05. Teams and players don't like to negotiate in public. Of course, none of that will stop the gratuitous Loria-bashing by curvy. It's what he does.

Jesus, I just responded to an old f***ing post- who bumped this? I'll leave this here for no good reason but for prosperity. Yep. Probably right. The generation that gave the world the personal computer and the www. That one wasn't very well thought out. Yeah, probably right. Hitler had a significant hand in bring us the Volkswagen Beetle, The installation and creation of a system of Interstate Highways we hop on everyday, converting Coal to Diesel fuel, and shooting himself in the head. What the hell is your point. You old people ruined it for all of us. If you could have smoked in moderation, drank in moderation, continued to wear presentable clothes and fedoras, and maybe pulled out once in a while the world would be a much better place..... You damn hippies! Wut? For prosperity? How about posterity? And Hitler was born in 1889. Someone born then would be Bob's grandfather or great-grandfather. Seems to be a bit of generational confusion. Less than 100K VWs were produced while Hitler was alive -- almost all military versions. 21 million were produced post-war, but of course Herr Hitler -- being a dead guy -- had nothing to do with that. The interstate highway system here and in Germany had their beginnings in the 1920s, Unlike Hitler, who used a lot of slave labor to build autobahns, Eisenhower somehow managed to avoid that. Coal to diesel conversion has been around since the 1920s, and yup, Hitler used it a lot, but, no, it doesn't amount to a hill of beans today -- way too expensive. So, what is your point? Just for posterity, of course. And, contrary to any rumors, BroncoBob lives!

I've lost large portions of my IQ listening to Redmond speak at the press conferences. He always looks so confused and his stances are inconsistent. He acts mad and upset but yet he smiles and jokes. I'm waiting for his left ear to fall off. He's constantly sticking his finger against his head just behind the top of the ear and then pushing it forward. He does this 10-15-20 times per session. Possibie explanations: 1) He wants his ears to look like Jack McKeon's and he'll eventually start working on the right one, too. 2) He doesn't think his left ear sticks out far enough. 3) Subconscious nervous tic. 4) He's hard of hearing. 5) There's an alien living in his left ear. That last may also explain some of his than brilliant managerial moves.

Not to mention that the melt value of pre-'83 95% copper pennies is about 2 cents. Or, pretty much the same as the general opinion of the value of Brad Penny.