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Herm made that inning. agreed! The 1 and 2 punch of boni and jerm made it.

Wait, have you guys noticed the Marlins arent shaving? I have noticed some guys have some chin fuzz. 5 o'clock shadow is not only rugged but its also hot. I am definitely not complaining.

Uhhhhh that was lame Uggz.

Wow, Waltz... and we are in an alternate universe.... wtf?

Cody!!!

whats just happened?I just got home... are the Marlins winning/losing yet? Bonifacio and Jerm got singles. Then Hanley flew out. Then the baserunners double stole. Then Cantu got a groundout that brought in Boni.

How do I make a signature? I tried doing it last night and I failed... greatly.

Marlins lead.... can we keep it? Cody!!!

If Jenkins thought his 200th HR ball was worth 4 bats (as you say he gave up) then whats the problem? Exactly. A willing buyer and a willing seller equals a voluntary transaction. 4 bats or a signed ball or season tickets and $50K or nothing but a thank you, it's all the same, the result of a voluntary transaction between two willing parties. All of this "he was a dick" stuff is BS. Whoever catches a ball becomes the owner of it and can sell it or not sell it or give it away for nothing as he sees fit. If all ticket stubs said "All baseballs used in a game remain the property of [insert name of home team,]" it would be a different story, but that ain't the case. Why anyone gets upset about any of this, other than that some people think that other people aren't behaving like they think that they should behave, is a total mystery. +1 A+ thank the lord almighty, there are people in these forums that have a brain and can think for themselves. I'm sure most on this forum can think for themselves. Just because my opinion differs from yours does not mean that I lack cognitive function or that I don't "have a brain". In fact, the idea that everyone must agree with you otherwise they "can't think for themselves" actually leads me to believe that you DON'T want everyone to think for themselves, but rather they think just like you and share your opinion. That is very comical.

Are you purposely being dense or do you really lack basic reasoning skills? No one is arguing whether or not it is wrong to ask for something in return. In fact, most would agree that it would be fair. The difference is, the "fan" went far beyond was would be considered a "fair trade" by the Marlins organization's stand point. The fact that he wanted Coghlan to ask Hanley to sign a bat (which is in and of itself uncalled for), then wanted a Coghlan signed bat, a ball, a picture, tickets for other games is, by no stretch of the imagination, a fair trade. Like I stated earlier, he did the same thing when Jenkins hit his milestone HR and he wanted Jenkins to ask Prince Fielder for a signed bat. Why should one player beg a teammate to sign a bat for a fan just to retrieve a HR ball? He is putting Coghlan and Jenkins in an awkward position, not to mention he is being a greedy brat... like I said earlier. He didn't go "far beyond" as you say.That is your wrong opinion.So he asked for two bats and a ball.Wow i don't think the multi billion dollar industry can afford that one. Also Coghlan's ball could be worth ALOT of money in the future.So basically the fan was handing over thousands of dollars from his pocket.I'll let you figure that obvious one out. Can you explain to me how an OPINION (which is therefore NOT a fact) can be wrong? It can't be. Secondly, perhaps the "multi-billion dollar industry" can afford to give out bats and balls and whatever else they please, but the Marlins organization does not nor should Hanley have to sign a bat for Coghlan to get his 1st HR ball. I don't have a problem with the "fan" asking for a bat from COGHLAN ( the one who actually hit the HR) or asking for a signed ball from Coghlan, he definitely crossed the line when asking for a bat from Ramirez and tickets to a game. Thirdly, I will not discuss intangibles as to how much Coghlan's 1st career HR ball could possibly be worth years from now. That is absurd. I will not pretend to know the future as you've done. Saying that HY could possibly be "handing over thousands of dollars from his pocket" is ridiculous. You couldn't possibly know how much that ball would be worth in the future (the ball could very well be worth nothing 25 years from now) therefore, this argument is irrelevant to the discussion. Lastly, HY already has reputation and a sort of infamy with pulling dick-ish moves in order to acquire baseballs and now he's developing one with leveraging milestone HR balls from MLB players in order to get bats, signed balls, tickets, pictures, and whatever else he can get his grubby little hands on. I don't understand why you are defending his actions when they seem pretty reprehensible. Fans keep these type of milestone balls all the time.The ball could be worth thousands in the future, so it's only fair that he gets an equal return.Do you not understand?.Is it to hard for your brain?. The ball was the fans property.Understand it? okay?.Your opinion is very absurd and off line. If you are going to make an attempt to insult my intelligence please make sure you are at least utilizing proper grammar, thank you. (Is it TOO hard for you brain?) I'm not sure if you actually read what people have already posted on this thread, but I believe El Penguino said it best, that ball will most likely NOT be worth a thousand dollars. In fact, the idea that you actually believe that Chris Coghlan's 1st career HR will be worth thousands in the future is utterly unfounded. I've already stated that I won't be arguing some thing as unpredictable or as outlandish as the future worth of Coghlan's HR ball. That is ridiculous, but please stop speculating or making such absurd assumptions as a thousand dollars. No one is arguing whether or not the ball belonged to HY, I'm pretty sure we have a consensus that it did in fact belong to him the moment he caught it. The issue that has been taken is with how much he asked from Coghlan and how he went about the negotiations. By far the most ridiculous thing I've read is, "The ball could be worth thousands in the future, so it's only fair the he gets an equal return". Please tell me you don't actually believe that the fan should be rewarded thousands in return for that baseball? I think you should look up the concept of "opinion" because my opinion can not be wrong as you stated in an earlier post nor is it "off line" (whatever that means, were you trying to say "out of line"?). My opinion is simply my personal view on the situation.

Thousands? More neighborhood of hundreds and that's being generous (under the assumption that Coghlan has a long, fruitful MLB career). I believe many of the recent "milestone" balls (sans those related to Bonds) have been returned without any monetary exchange. Sure, he could sit on the ball for years and years hoping that he could milk a couple of hundred bucks out of it or he could come off as a classy individual. I agree that it's his choice but anyone who wears the apparel of the opposing team just to get tossed baseballs is likely to engage in greedy behavior. Secondly, he did not simply ask for two bats. He asked for one bat and then another bat from a completely different player. Apparently he did not learn the first time when he tried to get a Prince Fielder bat out of Jenkins' 200th home run ball. Why should Jenkins have to beg a teammate to receive a baseball that has very little tangible interest from anyone else other than Jenkins himself? Thank you! I completely agree with everything you said!

Are you purposely being dense or do you really lack basic reasoning skills? No one is arguing whether or not it is wrong to ask for something in return. In fact, most would agree that it would be fair. The difference is, the "fan" went far beyond was would be considered a "fair trade" by the Marlins organization's stand point. The fact that he wanted Coghlan to ask Hanley to sign a bat (which is in and of itself uncalled for), then wanted a Coghlan signed bat, a ball, a picture, tickets for other games is, by no stretch of the imagination, a fair trade. Like I stated earlier, he did the same thing when Jenkins hit his milestone HR and he wanted Jenkins to ask Prince Fielder for a signed bat. Why should one player beg a teammate to sign a bat for a fan just to retrieve a HR ball? He is putting Coghlan and Jenkins in an awkward position, not to mention he is being a greedy brat... like I said earlier. He didn't go "far beyond" as you say.That is your wrong opinion.So he asked for two bats and a ball.Wow i don't think the multi billion dollar industry can afford that one. Also Coghlan's ball could be worth ALOT of money in the future.So basically the fan was handing over thousands of dollars from his pocket.I'll let you figure that obvious one out. Can you explain to me how an OPINION (which is therefore NOT a fact) can be wrong? It can't be. Secondly, perhaps the "multi-billion dollar industry" can afford to give out bats and balls and whatever else they please, but the Marlins organization does not nor should Hanley have to sign a bat for Coghlan to get his 1st HR ball. I don't have a problem with the "fan" asking for a bat from COGHLAN ( the one who actually hit the HR) or asking for a signed ball from Coghlan, he definitely crossed the line when asking for a bat from Ramirez and tickets to a game. Thirdly, I will not discuss intangibles as to how much Coghlan's 1st career HR ball could possibly be worth years from now. That is absurd. I will not pretend to know the future as you've done. Saying that HY could possibly be "handing over thousands of dollars from his pocket" is ridiculous. You couldn't possibly know how much that ball would be worth in the future (the ball could very well be worth nothing 25 years from now) therefore, this argument is irrelevant to the discussion. Lastly, HY already has reputation and a sort of infamy with pulling dick-ish moves in order to acquire baseballs and now he's developing one with leveraging milestone HR balls from MLB players in order to get bats, signed balls, tickets, pictures, and whatever else he can get his grubby little hands on. I don't understand why you are defending his actions when they seem pretty reprehensible.

Wouldn't the fact that Chris Coghlin is not the first MLB player whose balls he's held ransom be some sort of indication as to how this man carries himself in these situations? The fact that he did the same thing to Geoff Jenkins says more about his character than how "cheap" the Marlins organization is when he attempted this negotiation tactic again. 99% of people in his situation would have requested something in return for the ball.It's human nature. There is a difference between asking for something as a souvenir and holding the ball for ransom which is what many reports have said he did with Coghlan and what he did with Jenkins. Really oh please enlighten me.It's the same thing, just different words. There is nothing wrong with asking for something in return.Especially when the team offers you another regular baseball for Coghlan's first career home run ball.Yeah that's a fair trade alright. Are you purposely being dense or do you really lack basic reasoning skills? No one is arguing whether or not it is wrong to ask for something in return. In fact, most would agree that it would be fair. The difference is, the "fan" went far beyond was would be considered a "fair trade" by the Marlins organization's stand point. The fact that he wanted Coghlan to ask Hanley to sign a bat (which is in and of itself uncalled for), then wanted a Coghlan signed bat, a ball, a picture, tickets for other games is, by no stretch of the imagination, a fair trade. Like I stated earlier, he did the same thing when Jenkins hit his milestone HR and he wanted Jenkins to ask Prince Fielder for a signed bat. Why should one player beg a teammate to sign a bat for a fan just to retrieve a HR ball? He is putting Coghlan and Jenkins in an awkward position, not to mention he is being a greedy brat... like I said earlier.

Good pitching - No Offense Bad pitching - Good offense/ the occasional rally killer *cough* bonifacio I completely agree with you about the inconsistencies of the different parts of the team. What really bugged me today about the game was that JJ received a loss despite pitching a great game... its sad.

12-21 against teams other than the Nats doesn't suck? Please.... this team blows. once again the pitchers couldn't hold a lead today. this day just keeps getting worse. first the kings get the 4th freakin pick and now the marlins allow 5 runs in the 7th and lose We've seen strokes of brilliance from this team. They are just struggling mightily as of late. Hopefully they can turn it around. I don't think the team "sucks" as has been so eloquently put, I just think the team is struggling and certain aspects of the team has been inconsistent. When the starting pitching is doing well the offense is struggling. When we put up runs, the bullpen struggles. If the team can put everything together we will be in great shape.

Wouldn't the fact that Chris Coghlin is not the first MLB player whose balls he's held ransom be some sort of indication as to how this man carries himself in these situations? The fact that he did the same thing to Geoff Jenkins says more about his character than how "cheap" the Marlins organization is when he attempted this negotiation tactic again. 99% of people in his situation would have requested something in return for the ball.It's human nature. There is a difference between asking for something as a souvenir and holding the ball for ransom which is what many reports have said he did with Coghlan and what he did with Jenkins. Oh, and human nature is defined as traits shared by ALL of humankind, like hunger and thirst. It is not in my nature to be a greedy little brat.

Wouldn't the fact that Chris Coghlin is not the first MLB player whose balls he's held ransom be some sort of indication as to how this man carries himself in these situations? The fact that he did the same thing to Geoff Jenkins says more about his character than how "cheap" the Marlins organization is when he attempted this negotiation tactic again.

Alachua County Resident... they are pretty gross.

... walk...

LOLOLOL what the hill is Pinto doing? He put some weird tape on his mustache!

LOL ACR... Is it true that he didn't attend UF because they wanted him to change his delivery?

Aren't we going to talk to Miller?

LOL they are laughing at David Ortiz.

LOL Hutton that was pretty disgusting. what he say ? He said the rain was going to be the cameraman's only shower of the day.

LOL Hutton that was pretty disgusting.