Mephisto

our staff last year really never got going as a whole, that dosent mean we cant win with awsome pitching and the lineup we have

because you cant never have to much pitching

A four year contract worth 40 million 2005-2008 8 million a year the rest is payed in deffered payments over three years: 2009: 2 millon 2010: 3 million 2011: 3 million what do you all think?

el rookie-pesadilla 3

we got ripped in that LA deal we should have gotten Mota, LoDuca, and Encarncacion for Penny and Murphy alone.

so thats why they are still saying that they try to sign pavano

They should have groomed Willingham as a 1b he be more useful to the team there

Consider that New York Yankees gear is sold around the world, and probably pulls in hundreds of millions in revenue on its own. Factor in daily sellouts, etc. and they make boatloads of cash. 631271[/snapback] That combined with everything thats was already said is why the yankees are the Evil Empire

Maybe the fans just don't like him? 630572[/snapback] who would ever think that way? 630597[/snapback] not bonds, he'll probably think this is White America hating on the black guy or something

how can they release Valdez if hes a free agent?

After thoroughly examining the payroll figures, i can not see the marlins signing pavano without making significant moves to dump payroll at other spots. 630424[/snapback] A backloaded deal should allow them to offer him a good offer after this upcoming season: Hampton is off the books, and pudge is off after 06 i believe Conine is gone as is leiter, and I believe Encarnacion as well That should allow them to sign pavs

i think the 4/36 offer would get it done, but unless pavano accepts a backloaded contract it probably wont happen

I would like Travis Lee more than Tino because he is younger, and should be able to get him cheaper. But people on here seem to hate Travis. 630328[/snapback] I think that is a good idea, too. But how much is Trav Lee asking for? And would he be ok with platooning with Conine? The other thing is he could play some RF, I believe. Solid idea... 630361[/snapback] I much rather go after Rober Fick, good fielder with some pop in his bat

thanks

rferry where you get those stats?

hes in his arbi year the marlins get to retain his rights, but the marlins have said they will lock him up long term

Beinfest would probably trade Burnett before Beckett. 630228[/snapback] I think he would trade Beckett instead,

Injured Reliver...0-3 11 ERA...Thank god its for only 750K 630148[/snapback] That is an excellent signing. I wish it had been us...damn it. 630174[/snapback] I agree, if mantei remains healthy that will be a huge steal

To be truthful, I don't feel Pavano will live up to the money he will be making. 630230[/snapback] I agree, I see it as a very risky move to sign him pavs.. We may be better of signing Kevin Millwood to a one year deal for under 5 million. Which could turn out to be a bargain with pitching at PPS and behind our defense

Yea, it looks like a better signing, still overpayed though

I would trade Encarnacion for just about anything, sign Drew, and have Cabrera play in LF. 630038[/snapback] Cabs would play LF either way

They probably believe that they will end up with one, but not two, of those starters that we are going after. 630031[/snapback] One would think so. But there is a real possibility we come to terms with Pavano and Valdez accepts our offer of arbitration. 630037[/snapback] we can still trade players who are Arbii cases. 630040[/snapback] we cant trade Ismael because he already has more than 6 yrs.

Beckett for Dunn, duh. :deadhorse 630035[/snapback] right after i made my post i remember that rumor. That could be another optio Beinfest could consider, he could trade Beckett for Dunn, but I think that deal happens only if the reds take Encarnacion or a third team takes Encarnacion

Valdez should make less than 2 next year, and if he accepts a deal with the marlins under that scenario he would either: A) try to get dealt away or B) become the long reliever(what would probably happen)

his whip was 1.60 thats pretty damn bad