Ramp Posted May 16, 2004 Share Posted May 16, 2004 catcher Josh Willingham went 2/4 last night with 1 run, 2rbi, and a homerun(7)Â his average is up to .240(he was at .205 just last week)Â Â for all you other statheads, his obp is .379 and his sluggin is .521 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlins Posted May 16, 2004 Share Posted May 16, 2004 Pretty good.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nc marlin Posted May 16, 2004 Share Posted May 16, 2004 Who's Willingham? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeFish Posted May 16, 2004 Share Posted May 16, 2004 catcher Josh Willingham went 2/4 last night with 1 run, 2rbi, and a homerun(7)Â his average is up to .240(he was at .205 just last week)Â Â for all you other statheads, his obp is .379 and his sluggin is .521 He is getting called up around the all star break. I can feel it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramp Posted May 16, 2004 Author Share Posted May 16, 2004 Who's Willingham? no idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geemoney Posted May 16, 2004 Share Posted May 16, 2004 I'd send Castro to AAA. Really, this is getting absurd. And I know he doesn't have any options, but if some team wants to claim him, so be it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramp Posted May 16, 2004 Author Share Posted May 16, 2004 catcher Josh Willingham went 2/4 last night with 1 run, 2rbi, and a homerun(7)Â his average is up to .240(he was at .205 just last week)Â Â for all you other statheads, his obp is .379 and his sluggin is .521 He is getting called up around the all star break. I can feel it. maybe even earlier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlins Posted May 16, 2004 Share Posted May 16, 2004 Who's Willingham? no idea me neither never heard of him... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramp Posted May 16, 2004 Author Share Posted May 16, 2004 I'd send Castro to AAA. Really, this is getting absurd. And I know he doesn't have any options, but if some team wants to claim him, so be it. agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlins Posted May 16, 2004 Share Posted May 16, 2004 catcher Josh Willingham went 2/4 last night with 1 run, 2rbi, and a homerun(7)Â his average is up to .240(he was at .205 just last week)Â Â for all you other statheads, his obp is .379 and his sluggin is .521 He is getting called up around the all star break. I can feel it. maybe even earlier if we really need him-we will call him up earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramp Posted May 16, 2004 Author Share Posted May 16, 2004 Who's Willingham? no idea me neither never heard of him... yea, um I was being sarcastic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flamarlins3 Posted May 16, 2004 Share Posted May 16, 2004 I thought he was in Double A. and a .240 average. I say hell no. He does not know the pitchers very well, that could lead to a bad mix. Unless he improves that average to well over .300 by the all star break, I'm not sold on him. Castro could hit .240 in double A or even triple A at that. The only way the marlins improve at catcher is through some sort of trade. Castro does need to go though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJC Posted May 16, 2004 Share Posted May 16, 2004 Is he related to Tyrone Willingham? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libelula Posted May 16, 2004 Share Posted May 16, 2004 I thought he was in Double A. and a .240 average. I say hell no. He does not know the pitchers very well, that could lead to a bad mix. Unless he improves that average to well over .300 by the all star break, I'm not sold on him. Castro could hit .240 in double A or even triple A at that. The only way the marlins improve at catcher is through some sort of trade. Castro does need to go though. You're kidding right? Even if a guy is batting .330 in AA he's not gonna bat anywhere near that in the majors. Look at Cabs. EVERYONE will have to adjust. And we're not basing his play on this year only anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlins Posted May 16, 2004 Share Posted May 16, 2004 Who's Willingham? no idea me neither never heard of him... yea, um I was being sarcastic And so was I! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flamarlins3 Posted May 16, 2004 Share Posted May 16, 2004 I thought he was in Double A. and a .240 average. I say hell no. He does not know the pitchers very well, that could lead to a bad mix. Unless he improves that average to well over .300 by the all star break, I'm not sold on him. Castro could hit .240 in double A or even triple A at that. The only way the marlins improve at catcher is through some sort of trade. Castro does need to go though. You're kidding right? Even if a guy is batting .330 in AA he's not gonna bat anywhere near that in the majors. Look at Cabs. EVERYONE will have to adjust. And we're not basing his play on this year only anyway. So everyone coming out of AA will be the man in the majors. Cabs had a much higher average. I still say trade is the best option. If a guy batting .330 doesnt bat anywhere near that in the majors what happens to a guy in the mid .200s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libelula Posted May 16, 2004 Share Posted May 16, 2004 I thought he was in Double A. and a .240 average. I say hell no. He does not know the pitchers very well, that could lead to a bad mix. Unless he improves that average to well over .300 by the all star break, I'm not sold on him. Castro could hit .240 in double A or even triple A at that. The only way the marlins improve at catcher is through some sort of trade. Castro does need to go though. You're kidding right? Even if a guy is batting .330 in AA he's not gonna bat anywhere near that in the majors. Look at Cabs. EVERYONE will have to adjust. And we're not basing his play on this year only anyway. So everyone coming out of AA will be the man in the majors. Cabs had a much higher average. I still say trade is the best option. If a guy batting .330 doesnt bat anywhere near that in the majors what happens to a guy in the mid .200s That wasn't the point I was making. I meant that it doesn't matter what they do in the minors. All that does is give them a spot on a major league team. But when they get called up, it's a completely new season for them. You have no idea what they're gonna do. So stop acting like .240 is bad because even if he did hit .240 in the majors, it's was better than Castro's .150. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flamarlins3 Posted May 16, 2004 Share Posted May 16, 2004 I thought he was in Double A. and a .240 average. I say hell no. He does not know the pitchers very well, that could lead to a bad mix. Unless he improves that average to well over .300 by the all star break, I'm not sold on him. Castro could hit .240 in double A or even triple A at that. The only way the marlins improve at catcher is through some sort of trade. Castro does need to go though. You're kidding right? Even if a guy is batting .330 in AA he's not gonna bat anywhere near that in the majors. Look at Cabs. EVERYONE will have to adjust. And we're not basing his play on this year only anyway. So everyone coming out of AA will be the man in the majors. Cabs had a much higher average. I still say trade is the best option. If a guy batting .330 doesnt bat anywhere near that in the majors what happens to a guy in the mid .200s That wasn't the point I was making. I meant that it doesn't matter what they do in the minors. All that does is give them a spot on a major league team. But when they get called up, it's a completely new season for them. You have no idea what they're gonna do. So stop acting like .240 is bad because even if he did hit .240 in the majors, it's was better than Castro's .150. It is a new season but it doesn't necessarily mean he will actually bat better than .150. What about his defense? I'm not sure but isn't he new to the catcher position.  Anyways he could be an option, if he comes up and tears up fantastic. I just don't feel very confident with him yet, but then again you're right he can't be much worse than Castro. We still have Red who can't play every day, but once he is healthy he should play more then if he struggles MAYBE call Willingham up if a trade is not an option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rferry Posted May 16, 2004 Share Posted May 16, 2004 for all you other statheads, his obp is .379 and his sluggin is .521 A .139 differential in average and obp? Bring him up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramp Posted May 17, 2004 Author Share Posted May 17, 2004 for all you other statheads, his obp is .379 and his sluggin is .521 A .139 differential in average and obp? Bring him up. he's got a pretty good eye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Juanky Posted May 17, 2004 Share Posted May 17, 2004 catcher Josh Willingham went 2/4 last night with 1 run, 2rbi, and a homerun(7)Â his average is up to .240(he was at .205 just last week)Â Â for all you other statheads, his obp is .379 and his sluggin is .521 He is getting called up around the all star break. I can feel it. maybe even earlier if we really need him-we will call him up earlier. Thank you Captain Obvious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmer_fran Posted May 17, 2004 Share Posted May 17, 2004 He went 0-2 with 2 walks today. The guy is a walk machine, but I don't think there is any way he gets called up until he gets that batting average up near .300, he's at .235 right now. . Pitchers have a little bit better command of the strike zone in the big leagues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dolfinfan305 Posted May 17, 2004 Share Posted May 17, 2004 We cant send Ramon down b/c he is out of options. Only way it can happen is if we waive him and no one claims him but you know some team will pick him up and give him a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamrock Posted May 17, 2004 Share Posted May 17, 2004 He went 0-2 with 2 walks today. The guy is a walk machine, but I don't think there is any way he gets called up until he gets that batting average up near .300, he's at .235 right now. . Pitchers have a little bit better command of the strike zone in the big leagues. He's not going to hit for average. Just like Choi he slugs and gets on base through walks. If a guy can hit .240 and still get on base 38% of his plate appearances thats pretty damned valuable. Â And just to be anal slugging % and OBP % are not for stat-heads. One tells how much of the time a player is on base. the other how many bases a player hits for per plate appearance. Pretty basic stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmer_fran Posted May 17, 2004 Share Posted May 17, 2004 He went 0-2 with 2 walks today. The guy is a walk machine, but I don't think there is any way he gets called up until he gets that batting average up near .300, he's at .235 right now. . Pitchers have a little bit better command of the strike zone in the big leagues. He's not going to hit for average. Just like Choi he slugs and gets on base through walks. If a guy can hit .240 and still get on base 38% of his plate appearances thats pretty damned valuable. Â And just to be anal slugging % and OBP % are not for stat-heads. One tells how much of the time a player is on base. the other how many bases a player hits for per plate appearance. Pretty basic stuff. I'm talking about above .250 in AA. I mean if he can't hit over .250 in AA then he's not going to hit over .200 in the big leagues. He's not going to make up for it as much with walks either because pitchers have better command of the strike zone in the majors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.