July 2, 200422 yr I was just thinking on ways to solve all of our problems and this popped into my mind. We make a deal with Baltimore. O's get: Brad Penny Marlins get: Melvin Mora, BJ Ryan, and a prospect. Mora can play anywhere on the field. He can fill in for Sea Bass when he falls into one of his long slumps, and can play left field also, and BJ Ryan could step right into the set-up role. After we do this deal. We go out and make a move for Miguel Batista. This guy is a very underrated pitcher, I was watching him today and he totally shut down the D-Rays. I know most people don't want to deal Penny, but I have a hard time believing that we'll be able to resign both Penny and Pavano this offseason.
July 2, 200422 yr I was just thinking on ways to solve all of our problems and this popped into my mind. We make a deal with Baltimore. O's get: Brad Penny Marlins get: Melvin Mora, BJ Ryan, and a prospect. Mora can play anywhere on the field. He can fill in for Sea Bass when he falls into one of his long slumps, and can play left field also, and BJ Ryan could step right into the set-up role. After we do this deal. We go out and make a move for Miguel Batista. This guy is a very underrated pitcher, I was watching him today and he totally shut down the D-Rays. I know most people don't want to deal Penny, but I have a hard time believing that we'll be able to resign both Penny and Pavano this offseason. 435892[/snapback] I like it. Probably won't happen, but i like it. Penny is just too inconsistent for us. Pavano is worth keeping before Penny.
July 2, 200422 yr Beinfest wont get rid of penny. 435900[/snapback] Don't be too sure. He has been looking to deal him.
July 2, 200422 yr Beinfest wont get rid of penny. 435900[/snapback] Don't be too sure. He has been looking to deal him. 435903[/snapback] and how do you know that?
July 2, 200422 yr Author Beinfest wont get rid of penny. 435900[/snapback] Penny's trade value is so high right now, and there is a very good chance he won't be with the team next year, so Beinfest will have to consider it.
July 2, 200422 yr Beinfest wont get rid of penny. 435900[/snapback] Don't be too sure. He has been looking to deal him. 435903[/snapback] the rotation shouldnt be touched. its not the problem.
July 2, 200422 yr Guys, Beckett can't stay out of the DL! What tells you that he would be healthy for the 2nd part of the year? Dontrelle is looking like a project and a headache. If we deal Penny, that leave us with Pavano and Burnett. This team can't afford to lose Brad Penny.
July 2, 200422 yr Author Guys, Beckett can't stay out of the DL! What tells you that he would be healthy for the 2nd part of the year? Dontrelle is looking like a project and a headache. If we deal Penny, that leave us with Pavano and Burnett. This team can't afford to lose Brad Penny. 435912[/snapback] If Beckett keeps going on the DL and Dontrelle doesn't become more consistent we won't make the playoffs anyways so there wouldn't be much of a point to keeping Brad.
July 2, 200422 yr Beinfest wont get rid of penny. 435900[/snapback] Penny's trade value is so high right now, and there is a very good chance he won't be with the team next year, so Beinfest will have to consider it. 435908[/snapback] Pavano and Penny shouldnt be worth more than 9 million dollars a year combined. Hamptons deal will be gone, Pudges deal will be gone soon, I think we will be able to sign them both.
July 2, 200422 yr did you just call DW a headache? not a bad #5 pitcher I would think 435914[/snapback] I agree, he is a nice 5th to have. But you better believe Jack and Rosy have headaches when they have to take him out before the 4th inning.
July 2, 200422 yr I was just thinking on ways to solve all of our problems and this popped into my mind. We make a deal with Baltimore. O's get: Brad Penny Marlins get: Melvin Mora, BJ Ryan, and a prospect. Mora can play anywhere on the field. He can fill in for Sea Bass when he falls into one of his long slumps, and can play left field also, and BJ Ryan could step right into the set-up role. After we do this deal. We go out and make a move for Miguel Batista. This guy is a very underrated pitcher, I was watching him today and he totally shut down the D-Rays. I know most people don't want to deal Penny, but I have a hard time believing that we'll be able to resign both Penny and Pavano this offseason. 435892[/snapback] oh man - people are just getting delusional now.
July 2, 200422 yr Author Beinfest wont get rid of penny. 435900[/snapback] Penny's trade value is so high right now, and there is a very good chance he won't be with the team next year, so Beinfest will have to consider it. 435908[/snapback] Pavano and Penny shouldnt be worth more than 9 million dollars a year combined. Hamptons deal will be gone, Pudges deal will be gone soon, I think we will be able to sign them both. 435918[/snapback] Are you kidding me? Pavano will make at least 7 to 8 million a year and Penny could make 8-9 million a year. I don't think we have that kind of money.
July 2, 200422 yr Beinfest wont get rid of penny. 435900[/snapback] Penny's trade value is so high right now, and there is a very good chance he won't be with the team next year, so Beinfest will have to consider it. 435908[/snapback] Pavano and Penny shouldnt be worth more than 9 million dollars a year combined. Hamptons deal will be gone, Pudges deal will be gone soon, I think we will be able to sign them both. 435918[/snapback] Are you kidding me? Pavano will make at least 7 to 8 million a year and Penny could make 8-9 million a year. I don't think we have that kind of money. 435924[/snapback] BS Im willing to bet Pedro Martinez can go for less than that
July 2, 200422 yr Author I was just thinking on ways to solve all of our problems and this popped into my mind. We make a deal with Baltimore. O's get: Brad Penny Marlins get: Melvin Mora, BJ Ryan, and a prospect. Mora can play anywhere on the field.? He can fill in for Sea Bass when he falls into one of his long slumps, and can play left field also, and BJ Ryan could step right into the set-up role. After we do this deal. We go out and make a move for Miguel Batista.? This guy is a very underrated pitcher, I was watching him today and he totally shut down the D-Rays. I know most people don't want to deal Penny, but I have a hard time believing that we'll be able to resign both Penny and Pavano this offseason. 435892[/snapback] oh man - people are just getting delusional now. 435922[/snapback] I know it's not likely, but if feels all our needs. Mora is hitting over .350 with 12 homers. He can play multiple positions. BJ Ryan would really shore up the pen, and then we could go out and get a guy in Batista who isn't much of a downgrade from Penny.
July 2, 200422 yr Beinfest wont get rid of penny. 435900[/snapback] Penny's trade value is so high right now, and there is a very good chance he won't be with the team next year, so Beinfest will have to consider it. 435908[/snapback] Pavano and Penny shouldnt be worth more than 9 million dollars a year combined. Hamptons deal will be gone, Pudges deal will be gone soon, I think we will be able to sign them both. 435918[/snapback] We still have one more year of the Hampton payment after this year.
July 2, 200422 yr Pavy could/should get atleast $7mil+ next year 435930[/snapback] how the hell can he?! if he has a good year this year it will be his only good and consistent season. and by good i mean 2.80 -3.10 Era range, 15-20 wins
July 2, 200422 yr Author Beinfest wont get rid of penny. 435900[/snapback] Penny's trade value is so high right now, and there is a very good chance he won't be with the team next year, so Beinfest will have to consider it. 435908[/snapback] Pavano and Penny shouldnt be worth more than 9 million dollars a year combined. Hamptons deal will be gone, Pudges deal will be gone soon, I think we will be able to sign them both. 435918[/snapback] Are you kidding me? Pavano will make at least 7 to 8 million a year and Penny could make 8-9 million a year. I don't think we have that kind of money. 435924[/snapback] BS Im willing to bet Pedro Martinez can go for less than that 435926[/snapback] Pettitte got 12 million a year last year, and Pavano and Penny are much younger than Pettitte.
July 2, 200422 yr he will easily be the most attractive pitcher on the market this winter he is just entering his prime, is a workhorse, has good stuff, and has a ring
July 2, 200422 yr Beinfest wont get rid of penny. 435900[/snapback] Penny's trade value is so high right now, and there is a very good chance he won't be with the team next year, so Beinfest will have to consider it. 435908[/snapback] Pavano and Penny shouldnt be worth more than 9 million dollars a year combined. Hamptons deal will be gone, Pudges deal will be gone soon, I think we will be able to sign them both. 435918[/snapback] Are you kidding me? Pavano will make at least 7 to 8 million a year and Penny could make 8-9 million a year. I don't think we have that kind of money. 435924[/snapback] BS Im willing to bet Pedro Martinez can go for less than that 435926[/snapback] Pettitte got 12 million a year last year, and Pavano and Penny are much younger than Pettitte. 435943[/snapback] Pettitte was an Elite Pitcher. This guys still need to prove a lot
July 2, 200422 yr meh....recently ballclubs have been reluctant to giving out big contracts. I doubt that pavano or penny goes more than 5 million a year each. I dont know i just dont see it,
July 2, 200422 yr I actually like that deal a whole lot, but it would bank on getting Miguel Batista which is a pretty big if because as we saw tonight our options are limited very much so after the 5 current starters
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