July 19, 200422 yr He is just so awesome, I will forever regret the day we traded him to the Marlins. Discuss.
July 19, 200422 yr What's there to discuss? He's a solid pickup for 500K. He struggled after a long break.
July 19, 200422 yr He is just so awesome, I will forever regret the day we traded him to the Marlins. Discuss. 464337[/snapback] and I thought you were bigger than that magglio... a baiting thread? :thumbdown
July 19, 200422 yr He was pitching decent for us recently before yesterdays game. I still have confidence in him but he can't throw fastballs right down the middle or allow homers to guys like Bobby Hill with the game on the line.
July 19, 200422 yr He is just so awesome, I will forever regret the day we traded him to the Marlins. Discuss. 464337[/snapback] dude wtf is wrong with you? grow the f*** up
July 19, 200422 yr He is just so awesome, I will forever regret the day we traded him to the Marlins. Discuss. 464337[/snapback] OMG OMG OMG 3.18 ERA IN JULY ITS HORRIBLE!!!!!!!! :o
July 19, 200422 yr O and before yesterday he had thrown 7.2 innings without allowing a run. OMG OMG ITS HORRIBLE!!!!
July 19, 200422 yr listen dont lie to yourself billy koch is horrendous, Billy Beane rapped Toronto when he originally moved him, he was overvalued then and he is overvalued today.
July 19, 200422 yr my bad i shouldve proofread, ::billy rapped toranto when he got Koch and used him in way that made him look more appealing than he actually was...
July 19, 200422 yr my bad i shouldve proofread, ::billy rapped toranto when he got Koch and used him in way that made him look more appealing than he actually was... 464840[/snapback] they used him as closer didnt they? how is that using him to make him look better than he is?
July 19, 200422 yr same way gagne is made to look better..the save stat is overratted, most of the time koch the A's used Koch in 'easy' save situations ,pumped up his value and the moved him along to the next sucker....i.e Chi W.S. I HATE THE SAVE STAT! lol
July 19, 200422 yr i do, alot. I think it makes a lot of sense, and its true...to me its like the ultimate underdog story.
July 19, 200422 yr moneyball sucks. billy beane is a fool trying to get ppl to buy into his crap. hes not even the best baseball GM.tell all those other teams with all star closers like gagne, rivera,benitez,hoffman,nenn back in the days and tell them that they are overatted. none of those teams get anywhere without a stopper at the back of the pen.
July 19, 200422 yr i do, alot. I think it makes a lot of sense, and its true...to me its like the ultimate underdog story. 464852[/snapback] Cuz Oakland does alot of title winning right
July 19, 200422 yr moneyball sucks. billy beane is a fool trying to get ppl to buy into his crap. hes not even the best baseball GM.tell all those other teams with all star closers like gagne, rivera,benitez,hoffman,nenn back in the days and tell them that they are overatted. none of those teams get anywhere without a stopper at the back of the pen. 464856[/snapback] Billy Beane is by far the best GM in baseball, he's done the most with the least, and Gagne Rivera Smoltz are good pitcher but not because they are closers but because they are good. Being a closer and attaining saves is overratted, How many saves does Gagne and Rivera have when they have come in with 2 or 3 run leads with noone out....OVERRATTED AS CLOSERS! Middle relievers who come in with the bases juiced and bonds up at the plate are the true stoppers not some pansy who comes out of the PEN dancing to welcome to the Jungle..how cheesy...even Gagne admits he's over hyped!
July 19, 200422 yr It's funny. Oakland always loses in the playoffs because of their offense and lack of a great closer.
July 19, 200422 yr i do, alot. I think it makes a lot of sense, and its true...to me its like the ultimate underdog story. 464852[/snapback] Cuz Oakland does alot of title winning right 464869[/snapback] So whats your definition of a good GM, One GM per year wins a title so all the other ones suck??? wow....
July 19, 200422 yr It's funny. Oakland always loses in the playoffs because of their offense and lack of a great closer. 464872[/snapback] Lack of hitting yes....Lack of a closer NO.....Playoffs are alot about luck....you dont think the marlins where lucky last year....3 of 5 series is more about luck than skill
July 19, 200422 yr i do, alot. I think it makes a lot of sense, and its true...to me its like the ultimate underdog story. 464852[/snapback] Cuz Oakland does alot of title winning right 464869[/snapback] So whats your definition of a good GM, One GM per year wins a title so all the other ones suck??? wow.... 464873[/snapback] Isn't the goal of a baseball team to win the World Series?
July 19, 200422 yr didnt Beane give Dye and Hatteberg these enormous contracts? Jermaine Dye OF OAK Signed Jan 2002 - 3 years/$32M 2002: $6.5M (+$2.0M signing bonus) 2003: $11.0M 2004: $11.0M 2005: Mutual option $14.0M or $1.5M buyout edit: maybe he didnt give Hatteberg an extension, I dont recall
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