August 17, 200421 yr I have talked to Cubans from Little Havana and 8th street. Some are just crazy and others are just to ignorant.
August 17, 200421 yr I can travel all through South America because South America is very cheap in US currency. BTW Im not Cuban or American. 515882[/snapback] You still didn't tell me whether or not you lived in the United States By using US dollars, you rely on the US somehow. Since you absolutely hate the government, for which the funds of that currency are backed, why don't you give back all of our US dollars, and go to a less tyrranical land that doesn't kill innocent people like China, Cuba, or North Korea? I have talked to Cubans from Little Havana and 8th street. Some are just crazy and others are just to ignorant. 515888[/snapback] So, basically, you but on the right side of the political spectrum?
August 17, 200421 yr Yes I live in the United States. Yes I don't wish to live here but for many reasons I cannot lieave the country yet.
August 17, 200421 yr Yes I live in the United States. Yes I don't wish to live here but for many reasons I cannot lieave the country yet. 515900[/snapback] Hopefully you'll leave soon. That's the great thing about America, if you don't like it, you can easily get the hell out. Wow, if you were in Cuba that wouldn't be so easy. Shocker huh?
August 17, 200421 yr This discussion is going nowhere. I have taken down my Che avatar in "respect" of your political views.
August 17, 200421 yr Yes I live in the United States. Yes I don't wish to live here but for many reasons I cannot lieave the country yet. 515900[/snapback] what you mean is that you really want to cash in before leaving. you probably will never leave either. my dad's cousin's dad came here a while ago... i cant stand my relatives by the way. he was a staunch communist always critisizing everything here... by the end of his trip he didnt want to leave. your ass wont leave since you have a choice.
August 17, 200421 yr I can travel all through South America because South America is very cheap in US currency. BTW Im not Cuban or American. 515882[/snapback] HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Typical The same person that talks about how flawed our system of government is uses that which the system of government has allowed him to accumulate (U.S. Money), and then takes advantage of another system(s) of government/economy which he defends in order to fulfill his self centered needs. You sicken me
August 17, 200421 yr I can't leave at the moment. Why can't we just end this thread? This isn't leading anywhere.
August 17, 200421 yr I can't leave at the moment. Why can't we just end this thread? This isn't leading anywhere. 515924[/snapback] It is leading somewhere... it's leading to you getting PWNED...
August 17, 200421 yr Author I can't leave at the moment. Why can't we just end this thread? This isn't leading anywhere. 515924[/snapback] stop postings then....this thread does lead somewhere...everyone is posting about their opinions on the embargo...the only thing that doesn't lead anywhere is YOU!
August 18, 200421 yr I am posting my opinion about the embargo. I respect your opinion and I expected you to do the same. However, you all have shown to be very immature and have broken one of the basic rules of debating thus I see no further purpose in this thread.
August 18, 200421 yr Author I am posting my opinion about the embargo. I respect your opinion and I expected you to do the same. However, you all have shown to be very immature and have broken one of the basic rules of debating thus I see no further purpose in this thread. 516013[/snapback] ok....w/e
August 18, 200421 yr ok....w/e That's the reply of a person who has nothing else to say because he's been thoroughly proven wrong.
August 18, 200421 yr How can you support this country when it goes to invade and kills innocent people all just to benefit a couple of wealthy others. I find it pretty hypocritical of you to say that. Cuba doesn't invade other countries yet they kill their OWN people. So, I ask you the same question. How can you support a country that kills its own people for no real reason and the dictator rolls around in cash while the people are working their asses off to support their families. My uncle has been working his ass off to help support his son who is mentally handicapped. Yet he has gotten little to nothing and they regularly ask us to send medicine, even VITAMINS. Sometimes they even ask us for SOAP because over there it is too expensive and they need the money for food. How dare you have the nerve to come over and spew your garbage in here while we have LIVED and SEEN the horrors of Cuba! Wow... I am shocked over this thread.
August 18, 200421 yr I am posting my opinion about the embargo. I respect your opinion and I expected you to do the same. However, you all have shown to be very immature and have broken one of the basic rules of debating thus I see no further purpose in this thread. 516013[/snapback] And I offered a counter to your opinion on Cuba, as a Cuban-American citizen whose family was betrayed by the Castro regime and who has lobbyed for Cuban issues in Washington in front of Congressmen and women. I see absolutely nothing I have said to be immature, I do find however your escape tactics from this debate to be silly and in need of greater planning. Instead of offering up serious answers to points myself and others have posed, you offer simple one word answers and "just cuz" explanations. I'll treat you like someone that has a real opinion when you present this opinion with facts instead of just random thoughts of yours and of others. Also, you live here but you aren't Cuban or American, what do you consider yourself?
August 18, 200421 yr First let me say I dont agree with marlinguru on this issue and I do think his arguments are a bit radical, he is allowed to make them. But I find it interesting that we have another thread accusing liberals on the board of being the primary source of name calling and direct shots. Yet a look at this thread shows it has gotten pretty personal and a lot of people, though not all conservative, have taken a lot of shots at the clearly very leftist counterargument. Now Im sure people take this issue personally and if someone came on here and said Hitler was a good human, they would be blasted and rightfully so. But some of these shots were uncalled for and in response to legit arguments. Some direct shots taken at metro and marlinguru in this thread: tell my dad that idiotic bulls*** you just said. he's probably some middle to upper class gringo who wants something to complain about and thinks he looks cool by saying stuff that most people disagree with. please shut up on this subject. bitch i didnt ask you why he went to prison MarlinGuru and METSrosexual, do you honestly believe the words being spewed out of your minds and onto this thread? Do you know what's the problem with s*** like you? You follow blindly whatever you are told! that's to be expected from communist mother f***ers like you... You have NO clue on the stuff that happens in Cuba, so shut the hell up and go dust your Stalin statue in your living room. Communist COUGHCOMMUNISTCOUGH ignorant bastard Are you stupid? That's the reply of a person who has nothing else to say because he's been thoroughly proven wrong. Why would I want to talk to the most left-wing Communist Soviet flag waving Canadian red neck what you mean is that you really want to cash in before leaving. you probably will never leave either. How dare you have the nerve to come over and spew your garbage --------------------------------------------- Only legit personal cheap shot I can find from marlinguru: Stop being a dumbass and lick my balls. Why should I listen to you people, whom get their facts from the manipulated media? Unlike probably the great majority of you I don't need newspapers of the media. Yeah, its only the liberals who take shots at people. :thumbup
August 18, 200421 yr MarlinGuru scares me with his liberalism though. He is like almost totalitarian left its that bad. Whatever, we have our extremes for liberalism on da list.
August 18, 200421 yr I think the things which make people angry with Castro and Che are cross political. Pinochet was no lightpost for human rights. Youre right, we all have our extremes. :mischief2
August 18, 200421 yr I think the things which make people angry with Castro and Che are cross political. Pinochet was no lightpost for human rights. Youre right, we all have our extremes. :mischief2 516121[/snapback] But I still don't get how someone can support commies...
August 18, 200421 yr First let me say I dont agree with marlinguru on this issue and I do think his arguments are a bit radical, he is allowed to make them. But I find it interesting that we have another thread accusing liberals on the board of being the primary source of name calling and direct shots. Yet a look at this thread shows it has gotten pretty personal and a lot of people, though not all conservative, have taken a lot of shots at the clearly very leftist counterargument. Now Im sure people take this issue personally and if someone came on here and said Hitler was a good human, they would be blasted and rightfully so. But some of these shots were uncalled for and in response to legit arguments. Some direct shots taken at metro and marlinguru in this thread: tell my dad that idiotic bulls*** you just said. he's probably some middle to upper class gringo who wants something to complain about and thinks he looks cool by saying stuff that most people disagree with. please shut up on this subject. bitch i didnt ask you why he went to prison MarlinGuru and METSrosexual, do you honestly believe the words being spewed out of your minds and onto this thread? Do you know what's the problem with s*** like you? You follow blindly whatever you are told! that's to be expected from communist mother f***ers like you... You have NO clue on the stuff that happens in Cuba, so shut the hell up and go dust your Stalin statue in your living room. Communist COUGHCOMMUNISTCOUGH ignorant bastard Are you stupid? That's the reply of a person who has nothing else to say because he's been thoroughly proven wrong. Why would I want to talk to the most left-wing Communist Soviet flag waving Canadian red neck what you mean is that you really want to cash in before leaving. you probably will never leave either. How dare you have the nerve to come over and spew your garbage --------------------------------------------- Only legit personal cheap shot I can find from marlinguru: Stop being a dumbass and lick my balls. Why should I listen to you people, whom get their facts from the manipulated media? Unlike probably the great majority of you I don't need newspapers of the media. Yeah, its only the liberals who take shots at people. :thumbup 516102[/snapback] some of those quotes are mine... ok a lot of those quotes are mine yet i dont consider myself conservative. i consider myself in the middle. what these dudes were saying was inflammatory and it pissed a lot of us off no matter what part of the political spectrum we're in. frankly i dont think you can blame us. hell yeah this s*** got personal. this stuff actually affected our families.
August 18, 200421 yr But I still don't get how someone can support commies... I think as a theory, it provides an idealized solution to the problems of a lot of nations rather than the commonly given "poor people just dont try hard enough." In places like S. America, its gotta be hard to see some people starving to death while others eat lavishley. Its gotta be hard to see patronage systems that are in place for a lot of undertalented people. The problem with it is of course well illustrate in the great Animal Farm. Its a theory. It ignore human nature, the greatest mistakes of theories. Its the same mistake a lot of pure free marketers make however when assuming people will not be unethical.
August 18, 200421 yr some of those quotes are mine... ok a lot of those quotes are mine yet i dont consider myself conservative. i consider myself in the middle. what these dudes were saying was inflammatory and it pissed a lot of us off no matter what part of the political spectrum we're in. frankly i dont think you can blame us. hell yeah this s*** got personal. this stuff actually affected our families. Im not gonna judge. When the issue is personal, Ive taken my fair share of shots at people too. I understand where youre coming from. It just frustrated me when someone in another thread said it was only the liberals who do it.
August 18, 200421 yr I think the things which make people angry with Castro and Che are cross political. Pinochet was no lightpost for human rights. Youre right, we all have our extremes. :mischief2 516121[/snapback] I think we get mad at Castro and Che on the count of they killed our family members, not that they happen to be communists (in Che's case, was).
August 18, 200421 yr what these dudes were saying was inflammatory and it pissed a lot of us off no matter what part of the political spectrum we're in. frankly i dont think you can blame us. hell yeah this s*** got personal. this stuff actually affected our families. 516134[/snapback] Exactly. Of course we're going to be pissed off. It's a huge insult and I take it like a slap in the face what they posted. My Uncle in Cuba is fighting for his life at this very moment. If things in Cuba were different, I am sure he wouldn't be in the position he is in right now.
August 18, 200421 yr Why would I want to talk to the most left-wing Communist Soviet flag waving Canadian red neck :lol :lol :lol
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