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D.C. Baseball Group Hires Banking Firm

 

WASHINGTON (AP) -- A group that wants to buy the Montreal Expos and move them to the nation's capital hired an investment banking firm that has been involved in the sale of several major league teams.

 

Goldman Sachs was hired by the Washington Baseball Club on Monday to provide advice and financial services. The group's managing partner is Frederic Malek, once an aide to former President Nixon.

 

Washington has not been in the majors since the Senators moved to Texas in 1971.

 

Goldman Sachs has been involved in many baseball transactions, including the sales of the Boston Red Sox, Los Angeles Dodgers and Cleveland Indians, and the creation of the New York Yankees' cable television network.

 

Groups in Portland, Ore., and Northern Virginia also are competing for the Expos, who were bought by the other 29 teams before the 2002 season. The commissioner's office has set mid-July as a target for a decision, but has said it is possible a permanent home may not be found in time for the 2004 season.

 

Baseball owners would like to have financing for a new ballpark in place before making a decision. While all three groups have announced financing plans, none has completed all of its financing.

 

If the Expos were to move to Washington or Northern Virginia, they would play in RFK Stadium until a new ballpark is built.

 

 

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The sooner they move the Expos, the sooner the Marlins are secure to stay in South Florida. Portland cannot support a team because the state is not willing to build a new ballpark. It looks like Washignton/N. Virginia will win the Expos sweepstakes. They are getting serious and hiring the bank to secure financing for the new ballpark so Baseball will award the team to them.

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That would eliminate the only real threat for a Marlins Relocation. Portland has the Mariners up the way in seattle, they don't need the team. A $16 Amtrak Cascades ticket carries many fans to seattle from Portland. Seattle estimates that 46% of all fans in attendance every game at Safeco lives outside the Seattle/Tacoma/Olympia Metro Area. If they lose the Portland market, they will be in trouble.

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I think MLb has to get it's own house in order regarding the Washington market before they go out and get GS to secure capital. Angelos is a BIG hurdle to getting a team in DC, and MLB is going to have to pony up lots o' cash to get him to let another team in his backyard.

 

I don't think the 'Spos going to DC has any effect on the Fish, anyway. It's not like it was if the Spos don't move to DC the Marlins will. Besides, if it gets bad enough in SoFl, something will be done with the Marlins to address the situation, new market or not. The team cannot exist forever burning cash in a bad market. MLB will do something.

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I think MLb has to get it's own house in order regarding the Washington market before they go out and get GS to secure capital. Angelos is a BIG hurdle to getting a team in DC, and MLB is going to have to pony up lots o' cash to get him to let another team in his backyard.

 

I don't think the 'Spos going to DC has any effect on the Fish, anyway. It's not like it was if the Spos don't move to DC the Marlins will. Besides, if it gets bad enough in SoFl, something will be done with the Marlins to address the situation, new market or not. The team cannot exist forever burning cash in a bad market. MLB will do something.

Angelos has no real strength, Baltimore existed with the Senators there a long time. Compensation will be needed and deserved, but that will be no biggie. If he gets a nice amount of $$$$$, he will shut up. He may not even be compensated because he is AL and the Expos are NL. They may use the Mets/Yankees, Giants/A's, Cubs/Sox, or Dodgers/Angels argument and win. Each is a different league so they have different markets by definition.

 

I know that the Fish probably won't move to DC if the Expos don't but people in Miami are believing that the fish will move there if the expos don't. It would restore people's confidence in management's commitment.

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DC lost the Senators in the 60's the last time. Look at DC in the 60's and compare it to today's DC. Population has grown tremendously. It can support the Redskins and the Ravens. I think it could also support another MLB team. The DC market without the Baltimore market is larger than Montreal in market size so it is not a question of if, but when they will move there.

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Although I'm too lazy to go dig up the supporting documentation, I know that Angelos has been very vocal in his opposition to a two-team market. Remember, MLB has been down this road before.

 

And, if I remember correctly, his ownership rights provide him with franchise locality rights, which means he has significant strength in vetoing moves that threaten his market.

 

In the end, he'll probably bow to the pressure, but it won't be easy and it sure as hel won't be on MLB's timeline.

 

AS for comparisons to the Senators, and the dual market teams that exist now. Remember that these issues were addressed before TV (and the resulting revenue). The almighty TV dollar and it's contract have a lot to say about market share amongst teams.

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People who live in DC can see Baltimore stations and vice versa. People in Oakland can see San fran tv and vice versa. He has no case. it is the fifth largest combo market behind NYC, LA/Anahiem, Chicago, and SF/Oakland It's not like the new DC team would be AL, which he has rights for. He cannot tell an NL team what to do.

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Thank you, thank you. I'm a veteran of the Florida Marlins "official" message board at their "official" site. However, for some reason, my computer won't log me on and I have to use my aunt's to get on there. Suffice to say, I'll only be posting once in a while there. It's also gotten quite barren over there as well. Long story short- I'm gonna try and balance TWO Marlins Message Boards and see how it goes. I've heard good things about this board, so I've decided to check it out.

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People who live in DC can see Baltimore stations and vice versa. People in Oakland can see San fran tv and vice versa. He has no case.

 

All I can say to you is that for the last 20 years he's blocked attempts to throw baseball in DC, even though there was (and is) a huge public outcry for baseball (ever watch a skins' game on TV, they have a huge "Baseball in DC banner at every home game for the last 15 years).

 

If I get a chance I'll go monger out there for some documentation, but I do know that because of franchise rights and contractual obligations Angelos is a huge roadblock.

 

And by the way, welcome geemoney. Remember the 1st rule of the Marlinsbaseball.com forums.... No one likes Fish Fillet, he's too negative.

 

Enjoy.

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People who live in DC can see Baltimore stations and vice versa. People in Oakland can see San fran tv and vice versa. He has no case.

 

All I can say to you is that for the last 20 years he's blocked attempts to throw baseball in DC, even though there was (and is) a huge public outcry for baseball (ever watch a skins' game on TV, they have a huge "Baseball in DC banner at every home game for the last 15 years).

 

If I get a chance I'll go monger out there for some documentation, but I do know that because of franchise rights and contractual obligations Angelos is a huge roadblock.

 

And by the way, welcome geemoney. Remember the 1st rule of the Marlinsbaseball.com forums.... No one likes Fish Fillet, he's too negative.

 

Enjoy. If i remember correctly, Angelos has owned the team since the Early-Mid 90's. Loria tried to buy the Orioles in a court auction but Angelos beat him. So i don't know what you're talking about.

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The number one thing coming out of Peter Angelos' mouth lately has been that the Orioles could not compete?as if they've been trying over the past two years?if a team were relocated to Washington, DC. There have been talks of buying Angelos out of the market with a lump sum settlement, something Angelos is famous for in the legal world. As of yet, there have been no real proposals as to what value would be placed upon the Washington market share currently under Orioles control. Perhaps this coming together of Selig and Angelos is a bargain?as corrupt a bargain as imaginable. Angelos agrees to try to stick it to the players win-or-lose and Selig agrees that no team is transplanted to Washington, DC

http://www.baseballprimer.com/articles/eug...2-04-12_0.shtml

 

As a native of Baltimore, I agonized for years while the commissioner of the National Football League, a Washington Redskins season-ticket holder, conspired with his favorite team?s owner to make Baltimore an expansion-free zone. The collusion, of course, ultimately forced the city to steal somebody else?s team, a hollow victory if ever there was one.

 

So I?ve enjoyed Peter Angelos? stubborn opposition to the concept of baseball in D.C., a market so apathetic that it permitted two teams to flee. We suffered under the thumb of the Redskins and their crony in the commissioner?s office; now their fans must pay.

 

But this is becoming counter-productive. The Orioles? claims of poverty, which are holding the franchise back, are the underpinnings of the continued attempt to suppress baseball in Washington. They have to say the market is too small to support big Orioles salaries because they have been saying the market is too small to support the Northern Virginia Expos

 

http://www.orioleshangout.com/rob/rob010502.htm

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a team existed in washington before, they moved to minnesota because the owner like that area better. Same thing basically with the Senators/Rangers. These owners want the team here. Many people in DC boycott the O's and MLB because they took the team away. If not DC then nearby Northern Virgina which is claimed as a distant O's/Braves area and has no real legally binding exclusivity.

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NO NO NO!!!!!! DC cant get a team da O's owner wouldnt allow to happen cuz i am from Silver Springs MD and all MD people and DC people and Virgina people go to watch teh O's play.....

 

its all a money issue... if the Xpos are gonna move anywhere it should be Portland the home of AAA baseball..

 

Portland Deserves a team Virgina i dunno....... maybe charlotte, I dunno to me there was really no threat to Tract teh Fish...... only reason the fans dont come is cuz 1997 dismantleing stills hurts them..... it will soon change and they will 4get once Loria says he getting a ball park..... and when we begin winning

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