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Paul LoDuca...

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Not huge. Huge would be Victor Martinez replacing Pat Borders.

 

Both Red and LoDuca have OPSes in the middle .700s over the past three years. LoDuca's power is not worth an additional $4-7 million.

Please ferry.

Redmond makes over $1M as a backup. Quality (in a lot of ways) bench player

 

LoDuca - cant measure the intangibles. He is worth 4-5M minimum.

will leave it at that!

 

both are hard nosed just one has a little more going for him than the other. Bet both will be back?

Not huge. Huge would be Victor Martinez replacing Pat Borders.

 

Both Red and LoDuca have OPSes in the middle .700s over the past three years. LoDuca's power is not worth an additional $4-7 million.

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stats arent everything rferry

No proof of LoDuca's leadership skills as a Marlin. Absolutly no proof for or against so why perpuate the myth?

No proof of LoDuca's leadership skills as a Marlin. Absolutly no proof for or against so why perpuate the myth?

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this team changed the second he hit that homerun his first AB

 

you could feel the change in the team

 

he is a major reason why we are winning

No proof of LoDuca's leadership skills as a Marlin. Absolutly no proof for or against so why perpuate the myth?

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I gotta disagree with you there, Rferry. The pitchers' confidence is clearly visible as they throw to Lo Duca. If only an external form of proof, look at how much better and more consistent the pitching has gotten too. And Lo Duca fit right in with this group. I think Conine is the quiet leader here, but Lo Duca has a big role too and it is more vocal. I saw it today as he handled the pitchers. He also looks very much like Fudge out there.

Is that why after hitting that go-ahead homer, he went behind the dish and we lost the game with a pitcher who had been stellar with Redmond/Treanor calling games?

 

 

Starting pitching tanked in June and July, because of injuries to Beckett was injured and Penny wearing down, not because Redmond and Treanor were calling games. Starting pitching came around mid-August when Beckett came back healthy. That's why were winning.

Is that why after hitting that go-ahead homer, he went behind the dish and we lost the game with a pitcher who had been stellar with Redmond/Treanor calling games?

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that loss almost felt like a win.... the energy was and still is amazing from that game

It feels nice, but didn't make a dent where it counts: the standings.

 

 

Character and leadership (which I do believe in, just not to the tune of $4-7 million) only count for so much, eventually you need to do something on the field day-in day-out to win ball games.

I love Mike Redmond, and I hope he is on the team a long time and I hope he gets good playing time in the future, but you got to remember..MIKE IS A BACK-UP CATCHER..allways will be, yes he can hit the ball, yes, his defense is suficient to start, but, as anyone can see during the summer months, Mike just dosent have the stamina to start all the time, when he started in 3 day shifts, you could see him start to ware down...Mike might have enough talent to start, but i dont think he has the stamina to start on a consistant basis, Paul is better in every category at the catching postion over mikey..most importantly staminia, wich is why I hope we sign him for atlest 3 years, and Redmond as his back up would be perfect.

People have probably been talking bad about him because they expect even more out of him.

I love Mike Redmond, and I hope he is on the team a long time and I hope he gets good playing time in the future, but you got to remember..MIKE IS A BACK-UP CATCHER..allways will be, yes he can hit the ball, yes, his defense is suficient to start, but, as anyone can see during the summer months, Mike just dosent have the stamina to start all the time, when he started in 3 day shifts, you could see him start to ware down...Mike might have enough talent to start, but i dont think he has the stamina to start on a consistant basis, Paul is better in every category at the catching postion over mikey..most importantly staminia, wich is why I hope we sign him for atlest 3 years, and Redmond as his back up would be perfect.

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Not that it's really important the position, but LoDuca is bad defensively.

 

Play Redmond and Willingham and you have above-average production for a quarter of the price, allowing you to re-sign Pavano (and Burnett).

So you feel that with Red batting 7th when he plays we have just a good of chance as winning as when Lo Duca bats 3rd? That is basically what it sounds like you are saying

Not that it's really important the position, but LoDuca is bad defensively.

 

Play Redmond and Willingham and you have above-average production for a quarter of the price

 

 

 

I agree that Loduca and Redmond can give and take on defense, but the thing that worries me the most about Red as a starter is stamina, he even admits it. When he started over this summer, he was tired out and it was hurting him, Red is a guy who plays 1 ,maybe 2 games a week at best, I just dont see him playing top notch baseball 3 to 4, to 5 days a week for an entire season, he would play his heart out, but it would kill him...and it's debatable about Willingham behind the plate, he could be the next best thing, but i dont like letting Loduca go for it

I love Mike Redmond, and I hope he is on the team a long time and I hope he gets good playing time in the future, but you got to remember..MIKE IS A BACK-UP CATCHER..allways will be, yes he can hit the ball, yes, his defense is suficient to start, but, as anyone can see during the summer months, Mike just dosent have the stamina to start all the time, when he started in 3 day shifts, you could see him start to ware down...Mike might have enough talent to start, but i dont think he has the stamina to start on a consistant basis, Paul is better in every category at the catching postion over mikey..most importantly staminia, wich is why I hope we sign him for atlest 3 years, and Redmond as his back up would be perfect.

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Not that it's really important the position, but LoDuca is bad defensively.

 

Play Redmond and Willingham and you have above-average production for a quarter of the price, allowing you to re-sign Pavano (and Burnett).

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What the hell! How can you ignore that with Redmond and Willingham as our catchers, this team was going nowhere? They both have talent, but we were barely getting average production from our catchers. We are winning games with LoDuca, dude. Give it up.

really important the position, but LoDuca is bad defensively.

 

Play Redmond and Willingham and you have above-average production for a quarter of the price, allowing you to re-sign Pavano (and Burnett).

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lolololol

 

Sometimes I think people here just want to argue for argument sake. Willingham is so far away from being a major league ballplayer it's almost laughable. There's probably less than a 50% chance he'll ever be more than a backup catcher, IF, and it's a big if, he ever makes it to the majors.

rferry - "Maybe you want to believe he came in here and reenergized the team, but I'm not going to buy a guy walking in from another clubhouse and instantly becoming a leader. "

 

 

It happens - see Dalton,D.

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