September 14, 200421 yr On BBTN tonight, Kruk had a list of the top 3 most fundamentally sound teams in all of baseball and he ranked the Marlins 3rd, behind only the Cardinals and Yankees. :thumbup
September 14, 200421 yr Thats about right.. :thumbup Lemme guess the Order was Yanks, Cards, Fish? :mischief2
September 14, 200421 yr Author Thats about right.. :thumbup Lemme guess the Order was Yanks, Cards, Fish? :mischief2 557639[/snapback] 1) Cards 2) Yanks 3) Fish
September 14, 200421 yr Thats about right.. :thumbup Lemme guess the Order was Yanks, Cards, Fish?? :mischief2 557639[/snapback] 1) Cards 2) Yanks 3) Fish 557642[/snapback] Yanks fundamentals, my tush, they play in a hitters ballpark in the American league.
September 14, 200421 yr Bah.. My order of those three.. Cards, Fish, Yanks.. Since when were the Yanks ever fundamentally sound? Can they even bunt? Sacrifice runners over? Steal bases? Pitch? lol
September 14, 200421 yr Bah.. My order of those three.. Cards, Fish, Yanks.. Since when were the Yanks ever fundamentally sound? Can they even bunt? Sacrifice runners over? Steal bases? Pitch? lol 557675[/snapback] Not to burst your bubble either but since when are the Cards fundamentaly sound this year, they half about don't tell me that lineup bunts better than the Marlins, turns the double play, moves runners over better, thats how the win, STL doesnt need small ball to win games?
September 14, 200421 yr I agree - I think the Marlins are a much better fundamentals team than both the Yankees and Cards. In fact, I would rank the Braves and Giants up there too - before Yanks and Cards. Did anyone not gush over that bunt that Lo Duca laid down? How many #3 hitters on either of those clubs can pull that off so effectively?
September 14, 200421 yr i can work with that. i dont like the yankees, but they are a great team. But were awsome.
September 14, 200421 yr Bah.. My order of those three.. Cards, Fish, Yanks.. Since when were the Yanks ever fundamentally sound? Can they even bunt? Sacrifice runners over? Steal bases? Pitch? lol 557675[/snapback] IMO The Yanks aren't fundamentally sound at all. Bah.. My order of those three.. Cards, Fish, Yanks.. Since when were the Yanks ever fundamentally sound? Can they even bunt? Sacrifice runners over? Steal bases? Pitch? lol 557675[/snapback] Not to burst your bubble either but since when are the Cards fundamentaly sound this year, they half about don't tell me that lineup bunts better than the Marlins, turns the double play, moves runners over better, thats how the win, STL doesnt need small ball to win games? 557677[/snapback] The Cards play small ball well when they need it. They don't score 9 runs every game.
September 14, 200421 yr Not to burst your bubble either but since when are the Cards fundamentaly sound this year, they half about don't tell me that lineup bunts better than the Marlins, turns the double play, moves runners over better, thats how the win, STL doesnt need small ball to win games? 557677[/snapback] Not to burst your's either.. Batting Average: 5. St Louis .277 (1st NL) 11. NY Yanks .271 18. Florida .266 HomeRuns: 1. NY Yanks 215 6. St Louis 195 26. Florida 126 On Base Percentage (OBP): 3. NY Yanks .356 11. St Louis .344 16. Florida .333 Stolen Bases (SB): 8. St Louis 95 13. Florida 83 14. New York Yankees 75 Stolen Base % (SB%): 12. NYY 71% 14. St Louis 70% 14. Florida 70% Sacrifice Hits (SH): 7. St Louis 68 9. Florida 67 24. NY Yanks 34 Sacrifice Flys (SF): 1. St Louis 64 4. NY Yanks 47 25. Florida 33 Walks (BB): 2. NY Yanks 607 12. St Louis 481 17. Florida 451 Intentional walks (IBB): 2. St Louis 59 17. NY Yanks 37 19. Florida 35 Pinch Hits (PH): 1. St Louis 53 16. Florida 29 20. NY Yanks 21 Pitch Hit Average: 1. NY Yanks .318 21/66 8. St Louis .257 53/206 26. Florida .179 29/162 Ground Into Doubleplay (GIDP): 6. St Louis 102 25. Florida 123 30. NY Yanks 142 At Bats Per Homer (AB/HR): 1. NY Yanks 22.9 5. St Louis 25.0 23. Florida 37.7 Xtra Base Hits (XBH): 4. St Louis 501 7. NY Yanks 491 26. Florida 400 Runs Created (RC): 2. NY Yanks 806.3 5. St Louis 778.5 24. Florida 645.4 Isolated Power (IP): 3. NY Yanks .190 7. St Louis .187 21. Florida .143 Pitches Per Plate Appearance (P/PA): 3. NY Yanks 3.8 3. St Louis 3.8 19. Florida 3.7 Walks Per Plate Appearance (BB/PA): 2. NY Yanks .107 13. St Louis .087 14. Florida .084 Walk to Strikeout Ratio (BB/K): 2. NY Yanks .070 10. Florida .054 12. St Louis .052 OPS: 1. NY Yanks .817 4. St Louis .808 21. Florida .742 BTW Could someone find anywhere that has infield and bunt hits? Marlins would be ahead of the Cards there.. I know stats dont exactly tell everything but seriously.. Saying the Cardinals dont play fundamentally sound baseball as good as the Marlins is ridiculous! Go Ahead burst my bubble now.. If you want I could get into the pitching and fielding :lol
September 14, 200421 yr Yeah, Giants, Cubs and Yankees fans were that cocky last year too and look what happend to them.
September 14, 200421 yr Yeah, Giants, Cubs and Yankees fans were that cocky last year too and look what happend to them. 557817[/snapback] I'm not cocky at all. Nothing matters at this time until the playoffs come. Doesnt matter what we do in the regular season.. All I was pointing out is that the Cardinals arent just a HR hitting team like most think
September 14, 200421 yr Thats about right.. :thumbup Lemme guess the Order was Yanks, Cards, Fish?? :mischief2 557639[/snapback] 1) Cards 2) Yanks 3) Fish 557642[/snapback] Yanks fundamentals, my tush, they play in a hitters ballpark in the American league. 557672[/snapback] Pitchers park...Have you ever heard of Death Valley?
September 14, 200421 yr The Cardinals are the kings of fundamental baseball, along with the Marlins. They're two teams that can mix Power with speed, hitting clutch extra base hits along with game-winning sac bunts, and turn a double play whenever they need to. The differences between the two teams are extremely noticable, though. The Cards are a home run bashing club that is never out of a game, while the Marlins play small ball and hope that the starting pitchers can come through and pitch a gem. More often than not, it works out for both teams.
September 15, 200421 yr Yeah, Giants, Cubs and Yankees fans were that cocky last year too and look what happend to them.? 557817[/snapback] I'm not cocky at all. Nothing matters at this time until the playoffs come. Doesnt matter what we do in the regular season.. All I was pointing out is that the Cardinals arent just a HR hitting team like most think 557820[/snapback] Look back at that series the Marlins and Cards played just after the trade. If I remember correctly, the Cards barely won two of those games - both low scoring wins - and without homeruns. The way the Marlins are playing now, the Cards get swept. The Cards do rely on the homerun for their offense, sorry to 'burst your bubble'. And most of those stats you used are not real indicators of fundamental baseball after all.
September 15, 200421 yr Alright fine.. If that's what you believe that's what you believe. HR Hitting team it is.. lol
September 15, 200421 yr Yeah, Giants, Cubs and Yankees fans were that cocky last year too and look what happend to them.? 557817[/snapback] I'm not cocky at all. Nothing matters at this time until the playoffs come. Doesnt matter what we do in the regular season.. All I was pointing out is that the Cardinals arent just a HR hitting team like most think 557820[/snapback] Yup. Cards are very fundamentally sound, like I said earlier, but no one reads my posts anyways. I think it gets lost on people that there are more ways to sore runs than hit the ball 500 feet. That's the Yankees' job. The Cards have to be, outside of last year's Marlins, the best base-running (not base-stealing, there's a difference) team I've ever seen. And On the side, I don't take much stock in stats like that because our team did squat first half and now no one wants to face them. Thats about right.. :thumbup Lemme guess the Order was Yanks, Cards, Fish?? :mischief2 557639[/snapback] 1) Cards 2) Yanks 3) Fish 557642[/snapback] Yanks fundamentals, my tush, they play in a hitters ballpark in the American league. 557672[/snapback] Pitchers park...Have you ever heard of Death Valley? 557940[/snapback] Real hard to hit a homer down the line right?
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