December 6, 200421 yr Ok, what do you guys think will fit their crime. Personnaly I think MLB should get rid of all of these jokers, speciallly Bonds. There is no way Selig can allow this guy to pass Ruth and Hank now that the truth is finally out. And yet he keeps lying about it. " I took them, but I didn't know they were steroids"., come'on, how stupid you think people are? Even if it means thet for a few years we'll have rosters with people that normally would not be there, I say lifetime ban to all of them. :mad : :mad : :mad : :mad :
December 6, 200421 yr How about just put an asterisk to the name of the abusers. Bonds was already well on his well to a HOF career before his numbers shot up so quickly in a year.
December 6, 200421 yr I say that you let the records stand because it wasn't illegal...but you make them shamed in other ways. The game depends on players, players depend on game....both depend on fans.
December 6, 200421 yr How about just put an asterisk to the name of the abusers. Bonds was already well on his well to a HOF career before his numbers shot up so quickly in a year. 627901[/snapback] Actually, I can roll with that, that is a fair punishment and an accurate statement. *waits for sarcastic shocked comments from Passion, among others* :lol
December 6, 200421 yr How about just put an asterisk to the name of the abusers. Bonds was already well on his well to a HOF career before his numbers shot up so quickly in a year. 627901[/snapback] Actually, I can roll with that, that is a fair punishment and an accurate statement. *waits for sarcastic shocked comments from Passion, among others* :lol 627911[/snapback] Translation: I want them hanged.
December 6, 200421 yr How about just put an asterisk to the name of the abusers. Bonds was already well on his well to a HOF career before his numbers shot up so quickly in a year. 627901[/snapback] Actually, I can roll with that, that is a fair punishment and an accurate statement. *waits for sarcastic shocked comments from Passion, among others* :lol 627911[/snapback] Translation: I want them hanged. 627916[/snapback] :lol :lol :lol
December 6, 200421 yr the lynching and crucification they've been receiving is more than enough punishment
December 6, 200421 yr the lynching and crucification they've been receiving is more than enough punishment 627918[/snapback] :lol Then why does Maris still have an asterisk? He hit the homeruns the FAIR WAY. Your such an effing hypocrite. :banghead
December 6, 200421 yr the lynching and crucification they've been receiving is more than enough punishment 627918[/snapback] :lol Then why does Maris still have an asterisk? He hit the homeruns the FAIR WAY. Your such an effing hypocrite. :banghead 627919[/snapback] um, they removed the asterisk 30 years ago. And they only put the asterisk because the commisioner had an agenda, the only reason why they would even consider putting an asterisk next to Bonds
December 6, 200421 yr the lynching and crucification they've been receiving is more than enough punishment 627918[/snapback] :lol Then why does Maris still have an asterisk? He hit the homeruns the FAIR WAY. Your such an effing hypocrite. :banghead 627919[/snapback] um, they removed the asterisk 30 years ago. And they only put the asterisk because the commisioner had an agenda, the only reason why they would even consider putting an asterisk next to Bonds 627922[/snapback] Yeah. Why don't you go cry about California not making the BCS bowl over Utah? Bonds cheated, face it.
December 6, 200421 yr the lynching and crucification they've been receiving is more than enough punishment 627918[/snapback] :lol Then why does Maris still have an asterisk? He hit the homeruns the FAIR WAY. Your such an effing hypocrite. :banghead 627919[/snapback] um, they removed the asterisk 30 years ago. And they only put the asterisk because the commisioner had an agenda, the only reason why they would even consider putting an asterisk next to Bonds 627922[/snapback] Yeah. Why don't you go cry about California not making the BCS bowl over Utah? Bonds cheated, face it. 627924[/snapback] Explain to me how he cheated? 1. You have to do something against the rules for it to be cheating. He didn't. 2. It has to give you an advantage as a result. it didn't. 3. It has to be deliberate. There's a good chance it wasn't 4. It's not cheating when most people do it.
December 6, 200421 yr 2. It has to give you an advantage as a result. it didn't. 4. It's not cheating when most people do it. 627930[/snapback] OK, now you are just going wacko. Didn't give him an advantage? See, average of homers and OPS per year before roids, and average of homers per year and OPS per year after roids. Most people speed, it's still against the law.
December 6, 200421 yr 2. It has to give you an advantage as a result.? it didn't. 4. It's not cheating when most people do it. 627930[/snapback] OK, now you are just going wacko. Didn't give him an advantage? See, average of homers and OPS per year before roids, and average of homers per year and OPS per year after roids. 627932[/snapback] Look at his numbers in 2004, when he was off THG. He was better than ever. Look at others like GIambi, Sosa, McGwire, Canseco, Caminiti, when they stopped, or were doing it over a prolonged period of time. They all had dropoffs in performance, and many had injury/ healthy problems. When you stop taking steroids, at best you were equal to what you were prior. Bonds got even better. What does that tell you? Most people speed, it's still against the law. apples and oranges. we are talking about competitive advantages. In sports like football and track, a player has to take steroids to compete with the rest. In baseball, it doesn't make much of a difference, but if a player thought it did, he wouldn't have a choice because he'd be looking around watching everyone else doing it.
December 6, 200421 yr No, it isn't apples and oranges. Everyone else doing something has never been, isn't, and never will be an excuse to do something. And why are you so positively sure that Bonds stopped taking the roids, huh?
December 6, 200421 yr Wow, another thread about the same thing... What a surprise.. Anyways, I back everything Mays24Bonds25 said... The good majority of the rest of the people here just don't get it. You've been wanting to crucify Barry for anything for years. Here's your chance, although as I've said in the other 20 threads about the SAME THING, you are taking it to an extreme.... Oh well....Have your fun.. It's rather entertaining really. Mays24Bonds25 and I will be cheering when he breaks Aaron's record this coming season.
December 6, 200421 yr Pics of Bonds' steroid-induced shrunken testicles next to his records and on his Hall of Fame plaque. :mischief
December 6, 200421 yr Put in Jail with a couple of prisoners and spooned. or Just suspend him for the season.
December 6, 200421 yr Send them over my way. I'll get those guys in shape the right way. Better Body Basics baby!
December 6, 200421 yr Its not a good thing when the classiest baseball player of all time, Hank Aaron, is no longer on your side. He put the effect roids has best: "First, since I played the game myself, I know that you can't put something in your body to make you hit a fastball, changeup or curveball," Aaron told the Journal-Constitution on Saturday. "The only person who can do that is the good Lord. But, at that age [40], you have to ask: Did he accomplish all of this by rejuvenating his strength from day to day with those substances? I know that when you reach a certain age, you just don't bounce back as quickly as you think you can when you're playing all of those games. "Drugs won't help you hit the ball. But can they make you recuperate consistently enough to hit the kind of home runs that these guys are hitting?" Aaron paused, sighed and added, "Let me say this. Any way you look at it, it's wrong." http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1939208 Though the circumstantial evidence is pretty bad, we do have to keep in mind that Conte said he has never seen Bonds, only Bond's trainer, and that he only gave him creams..the same stuff Sheffield admited using and which wasnt made a big deal of?
December 6, 200421 yr bonds is the best playa eva. and i belive bonds is tellin the truth/. we might neva eva see another bonds like playa. on the other hand i think giambi should be banned from the game. without pay he knew what he was doing and its playaz like him who have tainted the game.
December 6, 200421 yr I wish I hit alot of homers, I could lie and my fans would unquestionably believe me
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