April 4, 200521 yr seems to be a lot of cubs, A's and M's on this list it is fish free though ......... here is a link to the article per espn and here is a link to the list Sammy the Supplier?!
April 4, 200521 yr its only the teams that trained in Arizona....results from the grapefruit league haven't been released yet. herrera is the best player on that list.
April 4, 200521 yr its only the teams that trained in Arizona....results from the grapefruit league haven't been released yet. herrera is the best player on that list. 728569[/snapback] Then why are both the Dodgers and Cardinals mentioned?
April 4, 200521 yr Damian Moss..the former Braves pitcher is on that list too...I wonder if that's how King Leo gets his pitchers to perform.
April 5, 200521 yr Damian Moss..the former Braves pitcher is on that list too...I wonder if that's how King Leo gets his pitchers to perform. 728625[/snapback] Yeah because they seemed to help Moss so much. :plain
April 5, 200521 yr its only the teams that trained in Arizona....results from the grapefruit league haven't been released yet. herrera is the best player on that list. 728569[/snapback] Then why are both the Dodgers and Cardinals mentioned? 728620[/snapback] I don't know what is up with that. I don't see the Dodgers player you mention though. Gammons said it was just Cactus leaguers. There will be more and if there isn't then there is a problem with the system because there's no way you find 37 in Arizona and 1 in Florida.
April 5, 200521 yr Just something worth noting, former Marlins prospect Jesus Medrano is on that list. He doesn't seem like the type of guy who would do that, based on when my family and I sat with him at the 2002 Sea Dogs season ticket dinner. Maybe he was introduced to them with the Red Sox or Cubs... hopefully it's just some sort of error/misunderstanding.
April 5, 200521 yr Yeah I noticed Medrano on there. Gammons said that he thought a lot of these guys probably bought the stuff in Latin American countries where the stuff is legal. Also new substances have been added for this year.
April 5, 200521 yr its only the teams that trained in Arizona....results from the grapefruit league haven't been released yet. herrera is the best player on that list. 728569[/snapback] Then why are both the Dodgers and Cardinals mentioned? 728620[/snapback] I don't know what is up with that. I don't see the Dodgers player you mention though. Gammons said it was just Cactus leaguers. There will be more and if there isn't then there is a problem with the system because there's no way you find 37 in Arizona and 1 in Florida. 728654[/snapback] Its possible that when they got tested they played for a team training in cactus league and got traded or released and picked up dy the dodgers and Caridinals. That would be my guess.
April 5, 200521 yr I don't know what is up with that. I don't see the Dodgers player you mention though. Gammons said it was just Cactus leaguers. There will be more and if there isn't then there is a problem with the system because there's no way you find 37 in Arizona and 1 in Florida. My bad, I read Los Angeles and automatically my brain triggered Dodgers instead of Angels. Cards are there, however.
April 5, 200521 yr Gammons said that he thought a lot of these guys probably bought the stuff in Latin American countries where the stuff is legal. 728719[/snapback] It worries me to see so many latin american names there. I hope its just some kind of aberration... but that would be naive, I guess.
April 5, 200521 yr "The release speaks for itself," Oakland assistant general manager David Forst said. "The program is in place and it's working." It also means use is rampant. This is a huge step towards cleaning it up.
April 5, 200521 yr Wow... so far two names that I didn't expect to see at all related to steroids... Alex Sanchez and Damian Moss.
April 5, 200521 yr 38 players among over 4000 minor league players? Many of them from countries where steroids are legal? Rampant indeed.
April 6, 200521 yr 38 players among over 4000 minor league players? Many of them from countries where steroids are legal? Rampant indeed. 729435[/snapback] Actually I think they've only tested like 900 players or so from the cactus league. I am scared to see the results from the grapefruit league. Here is hoping to few or no Astros and Marlin minor leaguers on that list :crossfingers
April 6, 200521 yr 38 players among over 4000 minor league players? Many of them from countries where steroids are legal? Rampant indeed. 729435[/snapback] Actually I think they've only tested like 900 players or so from the cactus league. I am scared to see the results from the grapefruit league. Here is hoping to few or no Astros and Marlin minor leaguers on that list :crossfingers 730429[/snapback] That would be right, they tested only 900+ players in this case. It comes out to about 3-4% of the players tested were breaking the rules. Makes you wonder what the percentage would have been if they didn't know testing was coming since Jan.. :whistle
April 6, 200521 yr Minor leaguers have been tested for some years. One of these postitives came during the offseason. Reportedly there's a list of 60-80 coming from the Grapefruit league, atleast that's what Will Carroll says. That is a 3-4 per team ratio, same as the Cactus League. Pretty low considering the amount of latin players in baseball who live and train in countires where steroids are legal, not to mention other medicines and supplements which may have been unmarked or have anabolic affects which needs to be addressed by governments.
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