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I voted for the guy who is on pace for 45 HR and 150 RBI

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at least show some consistency....

Chase Utley: .305 BA, .911 OPS, 11 HR, 38 RBIs, .778 SB%, #2 at his position in OPS

Luis Castillo: .338 BA, .856 OPS, 2 HR, 16 RBIs, .636 SB%, #3 at his position at OPS

Castillo has been slightly better defensively

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Carlos Lee: .270 BA, .891 OPS, 22 HR, 72 RBIs, .900 SB%, #14 at his position in OPS

Bill Hall: .283 BA, .865 OPS, 13 HR, 35 RBIs, .889 SB%, #3 at his position in OPS

Hall has been much better defensively

How can you say Lee goes in over Hall but Utley doesn't go in over Castillo?

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Oh, I think Utley is very deserving. He's a great young ballplayer. I just think someone batting close to .340 and having an OBP over .430 would be hard to be left off. It's a toss up... like I said, both deserving. Different types of ballplayers.

 

This could all be moot because LaRussa could take his boy over both of them.

 

Side note, Utley isn't close to being on Luis' level defensively.

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I voted for the guy who is on pace for 45 HR and 150 RBI

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at least show some consistency....

Chase Utley: .305 BA, .911 OPS, 11 HR, 38 RBIs, .778 SB%, #2 at his position in OPS

Luis Castillo: .338 BA, .856 OPS, 2 HR, 16 RBIs, .636 SB%, #3 at his position at OPS

Castillo has been slightly better defensively

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Carlos Lee: .270 BA, .891 OPS, 22 HR, 72 RBIs, .900 SB%, #14 at his position in OPS

Bill Hall: .283 BA, .865 OPS, 13 HR, 35 RBIs, .889 SB%, #3 at his position in OPS

Hall has been much better defensively

How can you say Lee goes in over Hall but Utley doesn't go in over Castillo?

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Because being the best hitter and defensive player at your position says so.

 

 

 

And 22 HRs and 72 RBIs says so.

 

 

Bill Hall is not an all star. 13 HRs and 35 RBIs ain't cutting it.

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Oh, I think Utley is very deserving. He's a great young ballplayer. I just think someone batting close to .340 and having an OBP over .430 would be hard to be left off. It's a toss up... like I said, both deserving. Different types of ballplayers.

 

This could all be moot because LaRussa could take his boy over both of them.

 

Side note, Utley isn't close to being on Luis' level defensively.

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it's a toss up in both scenarios...however, one scenario is a shortstop compared to an outfielder while the other one is two guys at the same position, so that's why you gotta give it to Hall before giving it to Castillo

Granted, Lee and Utley should be the two going in (if David Eckstein wasn't leading the voting at short, it would be a different story), because they have the higher

LaRussa won't do that...while he extremely biased towards his own players, he never liked having them in the All Star Game, mainly due to the injury risk...his players will likely be the first taken out of the game

EDIT: I don't know if that's still true, it was when he was manager with the A's, he may have changed his tune over time but I'm going by what I remember

While Utley may not be on Castillo's level defensively, he's still upper tier defensively...aside from Castillo, Grudzielanek, and Counsell, he's the best in defensively in the NL

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This could all be moot because LaRussa could take his boy over both of them.837757[/snapback]

 

LoL I wouldnt be surprised if we are talking about 2B.. Grudzielanek has cooled off a bit though.. Hall aint gonna make it IMO.. Carlos Lee stands the better chance and should be on the team.

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Starting OF imo should be:

 

Carlos Lee

Bobby Abreu

Miguel Cabrera

 

 

I don't see anyone else being truely worthy of starting in the OF.

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This could all be moot because LaRussa could take his boy over both of them.837757[/snapback]

 

LoL I wouldnt be surprised if we are talking about 2B.. Grudzielanek has cooled off a bit though.. Hall aint gonna make it IMO.. Carlos Lee stands the better chance and should be on the team.

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Starting OF imo should be:

 

Carlos Lee

Bobby Abreu

Miguel Cabrera

 

 

I don't see anyone else being truely worthy of starting in the OF.

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I'd start Edmonds over Lee

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Bill Hall only starting half the time at SS doesn't help his case either.. especially since Hall has been starting at 3B lately because of Hardy at short.

 

Hall won't make the team though. He's having a nice year but hes not even close to being as deserving as the majors leading run producer.

 

One could argue Brady Clark or Lyle Overbay are more deserving on the Brewers than Hall.

 

Lee and Cabrera will both be on the all-star team. Take it to the bank.

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This could all be moot because LaRussa could take his boy over both of them.837757[/snapback]

 

LoL I wouldnt be surprised if we are talking about 2B.. Grudzielanek has cooled off a bit though.. Hall aint gonna make it IMO.. Carlos Lee stands the better chance and should be on the team.

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Starting OF imo should be:

 

Carlos Lee

Bobby Abreu

Miguel Cabrera

 

 

I don't see anyone else being truely worthy of starting in the OF.

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How do you leave out Andruw Jones? He's been a monster this year, and should start over Lee.

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Andruw has also been on a tear lately. Don't expect him to hit 12 HRs in 15 games all year. Which is what he did the other week.

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