[QUOTE][QUOTE]Eddie Guardado - R - Mariners    


The Mariners reportedly have dropped the asking price for Eddie Guardado, making it seem more likely than ever he'll be moved today or tomorrow.
They were seeking a veteran starter and an elite prospect for the closer, but now they are listening to all offers and may let him go for a single prospect. Jul. 30 - 9:24 am et
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I would trade anybody on the farm except Allison, Hermida, Vargas, Olsen for this guy. Do you think the the Mariners would trade him for Johnson and Bazardo? i'll add Messenger as well. I know he has the tendon or something that is completely torn but his #sure don''t say it. He is also under contract for next season. I really hope we can acquire him. Then get a Kip Wells.

 

Rotation

Beckett

Burnett

Willis

Wells

Moehler

 

Bullpen

Guardado

Jones

Mota

Alfonseca

Mecir

Vargas

Valdez

 

 

Definately playoff and contender material

Definetly make the offer.

yes

Do it!

You've gotta think we already have the inside track here with the Villone talks. Guardado is obviously an upgrade. With a resurgent JP, a seemingly recovering Lowell, and the addition of relief ace Everyday... this is the best team in the East.

no doubt would i love tohave everyday eddie but i really dont think he would want to come here and be a setup man beacuse frankly we have a closer.

 

"Who is Todd Jones?"

 

"Back then They didnt want him now hes hott they all on em'"

IF he came here I would think he would be the closer, and everybody else would move back an inning, making our bullpen awesome. AA in seventh. Jones in 8th. Eddie in 9th. Turns every game into a 6 inning start, like those Yankee teams from 4-6 years ago.

IF he came here with Villone. They might even be able to Move Mota elsewhere for a bat off the bench.

 

I would take Everyday Eddie for a closer with Villone in the pen in a heartbeat. It would be very useful.

definately do it now! he would be flawless in the nl.

This would make this bullpen probably the best in the National League I say do it

They might even be able to Move Mota elsewhere for a bat off the bench.

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A bat off the bench wow i cant believe peoples opinion of Mota could have stooped to an almost Encarnacion level (pre-hitting tear)

I wonder if they would be interested in Willy even though he's currently injured. That would make sense for both teams.

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The only way he can be moved is as "a player to be named later", because as long as he's on the DL he (or Eric Reed or anyone on the disabled list) can't be moved.

For those out there with an interest in Eddie - whether the Marlins get him or not - here's an article you might enjoy from Sunday's papers:

 

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Guardado?s a big bargaining chip, but he likes it here

 

JOHN MCGRATH; THE NEWS TRIBUNE

Published: July 31st, 2005 12:01 AM

 

Eddie Guardado couldn?t fake it. When asked whether he expects to remain with a team he has come to love ? in a city he embraces as a second home ? the Seattle Mariners relief pitcher, normally a beacon of high hopes and good cheer, had to tell the truth.

 

?My gut is telling me it?s not good,? he said Saturday. ?There?s some things I hear, but nobody knows. We?ll see what happens.?

 

The nonwaiver trade deadline is 1 p.m. today, and Guardado is the most marketable commodity among the Mariners players considered expendable. (Which is to say, those 22 men on the big-league roster not named Ichiro Suzuki, Richie Sexson or Adrian Beltre.)

 

General manager Bill Bavasi completed a pair of deals Saturday night, trading outfielder Randy Winn to the San Francisco Giants for a backup catcher (Yorvit Torrealba) and a minor league pitcher who?s recuperating from reconstructive elbow surgery and a neck sprain (Jesse Foppert).

 

Winn is a businesslike, even-tempered pro with some evident skills (athletic ability) and some equally evident drawbacks (baseball instinct), but he was not expected to deliver a package of big-name talent. He didn?t.

 

A few hours after the Winn trade was announced, Bavasi sent backup catcher Miguel Olivo to the San Diego Padres for backup catcher Miguel Ojeda and Class AA relief pitcher Natanael Mateo.

 

Summing up: The Mariners? whirlwind trading day brought them a veritable ?who?s he?? package of prospects and projects.

 

Guardado is a different story: a left-handed closer who on Saturday converted his 23rd save in his past 23 opportunities, a streak surpassed only by the peerless New York Yankees closer Mariano Rivera and another potential Hall of Famer, the Padres? Trevor Hoffman.

 

Guardado?s work in preserving the Mariners? 3-2 victory over Cleveland was a typical all-you-can-watch combination platter full of angst, suspense, electricity, gung-ho emotion and, finally, triumph. He lost the first batter he faced, Ronnie Belliard, to a walk, then retired Jhonny Peralta on a routine fly ball to right, got cleanup hitter Victor Martinez out on a dicey pop-up chased down in the sun by rookie second baseman Yuniesky Betancourt, and left pinch-hitter Jose Hernandez looking at a third strike.

 

The prototypically dominant closer ? Rivera comes to mind ? is almost surprised when he doesn?t produce an effortless, 1-2-3 ninth inning. Guardado?s saves are delivered with a more human touch. They usually go 1-2-3-4 or 1-2-3-4-5.

 

Whatever. Same result.

 

He hasn?t botched a save opportunity since April 9. He has allowed two runs in his past 22 games. And check out this stat: He?s working on an eight-year string of annually improving his ERA from the 4.52 he registered in 1998. Last season, he finished with a career-best 2.78. He?ll probably cut that in half in 2005.

 

Question: Who wants him?

 

Better question: Who doesn?t want him?

 

The idea of hooking on with a contender intrigues Guardado, a veteran of two division series with the 2002 and 2003 Minnesota Twins. But he?d rather stay in Seattle, where he?s pumped up about the extreme makeover the Mariners are undergoing on the field and relishes his evolving role as clubhouse leader off it.

 

?They gave me a three-year deal to help the team win,? he said. ?Obviously, it?s not working out for all of us. But this thing can be turned around. It reminds me of the situation I was in with Minnesota ? a young team that took some lumps. Then everything clicked.

 

?I?m excited about the future here, especially with all these young guys bringing energy to the field. They play the game the right way, the old-fashioned way: running everything out, hitting the ball the other way to advance runners. That?s what?s fun about it. I like to see hustle, kids busting their butts.?

 

Although Guardado is the Mariners? most valuable trading chip, he?s got a contract with a no-trade clause that gives him the right to renounce relocating to 10 cities ? all of which are on the East Coast.

 

As it turns out, the most competitive pennant races happen to be in the American League East and National League East.

 

?If I veto a trade,? Guardado asked, ?does that make me look bad? I don?t know. If they go get somebody and I say no ...?

 

He shrugged.

 

Guardado doesn?t want to be remembered as the boor who sabotaged the Mariners? rebuilding effort, but he raised an interesting point: If it?s considered selfish and petty to a invoke a no-trade clause, then why are no-trade clause contracts extended in the first place?

 

In any case, Guardado wants it made clear his heart belongs to Seattle.

 

?If I do go,? he said, ?maybe we can work out something where I could come back.?

 

He was serious. Seventeen months after he met his Mariners teammates for the first time, walking into a strange spring training clubhouse in Arizona ? ?like going to your father-in-law?s house for the first time,? he once put it ? he has settled into his version of an ideal career destination.

 

Today, he?ll find out if he?s able to stay in Seattle.

 

A few minutes before the first pitch against the Indians, the most conflicted summer of Guardado?s career will achieve something familiar to any reliever used to working in the clutch.

 

Closure.

 

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As opposed to going out and getting a Mark Redman, who in my estimation isn't a good fit with the Marlins because after failing in seven of the last eight starts including yesterday's drubbing against the very team we need to beat, it's obvious the only way he can win is on a team that scores alot of runs every start (and I'm not sure the Marlins fit that description), and then compounding the mistake by moving an untested Ishmael Valdez to the bullpen as has been reported locally, the Marlins should be concentrating on get a guy like Guardado who is highly competitive and puts up better numbers year after year.

 

Two earned runs in 22 appearances, 23 of 23 in save opportunities.

 

Gimme some of that !

It's interesting that Eddie would want to find a way to return to Seattle even if he is traded. It would make sense for the Marlins to give up a lesser minor leaguer to "rent" Eddie for the rest of the season and then trade him back to the Mariners after the season is over. It gives us what we need for this year and reduces the long-term risk if his arm blows out.

You submit a bid, obviously, but with Alfonseca back our 'pen has a surplus of one-inning relievers. I don't think Guardado is exactly the best fit. What we lack is a consistent long reliever to lock down the middle innings that McKeon won't hand over his better arms.

You submit a bid, obviously, but with Alfonseca back our 'pen has a surplus of one-inning relievers. I don't think Guardado is exactly the best fit. What we lack is a consistent long reliever to lock down the middle innings that McKeon won't hand over his better arms.

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I agree...one could argue that Villone would be a better fit for our pen then Guardado..

QUOTE(rferry @ Jul 31 2005, 12:22 PM)

You submit a bid, obviously, but with Alfonseca back our 'pen has a surplus of one-inning relievers. I don't think Guardado is exactly the best fit. What we lack is a consistent long reliever to lock down the middle innings that McKeon won't hand over his better arms.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I agree...one could argue that Villone would be a better fit for our pen then Guardado..

 

I don't know about Villone. His W.H.I.P is really high. While Guardado is .97. I rather have Guardado over Villone anyday no matter the situation weather he is a set-up man or closer although I feel he should be the closer if we acquire him.

I don't think either Malman or I were saying Guardado didn't have superior talent, just that another player fits our needs better.