November 27, 200520 yr The Marlins have two young phenoms in Dontrelle Willis and Miguel Cabrera. Each is poised to make their mark at their respective divisions, rewriting some records. I would like to know your opinions on which is more likely to happen....Miguel Cabrera hitting 500+ Home Runs or Dontrelle Willis winning 300 games. Also, which would you rather see?
November 27, 200520 yr Definitely Miggy hitting 500. It'd be awesome to see either happen in a Marlins uniform.
November 27, 200520 yr There are far more 500 HR club members than there are 300 win club members, so the 500 HR especially at the pace Miggy is currently at is far more likely to happen.
November 27, 200520 yr miggy with 500 jacks, but id rather see dontrelle get 300 wins...IMO hes a better person and he deserves it
November 27, 200520 yr Miggy is more likely to get 500 homeruns... it's easier for an every day player to not sustain major injuries during his career. To put how hard it is to win 300 games in perspective, if Dontrelle retires after he's 40 he'll have to win an average of about 15 wins per season to reach 300 wins. He's averaged about 17 in his 2.75 seasons in the big leagues so far. I think he'll have to go about 4-5 seasons in a row where he averages about 19 or 20 games per year and stay relatively healthy (and productive) in his other seasons to win 300. If Miggy retires after the season in which he turns 40, he'll have to average about 24 home runs per season. Now which one seems more likely?
November 27, 200520 yr Author Miggy is more likely to get 500 homeruns... it's easier for an every day player to not sustain major injuries during his career. To put how hard it is to win 300 games in perspective, if Dontrelle retires after he's 40 he'll have to win an average of about 15 wins per season to reach 300 wins. He's averaged about 17 in his 2.75 seasons in the big leagues so far. I think he'll have to go about 4-5 seasons in a row where he averages about 19 or 20 games per year and stay relatively healthy (and productive) in his other seasons to win 300. If Miggy retires after the season in which he turns 40, he'll have to average about 24 home runs per season. Now which one seems more likely? Does anyone here think Miguel can hit 600 Home Runs?
November 27, 200520 yr Miggy is more likely to get 500 homeruns... it's easier for an every day player to not sustain major injuries during his career. To put how hard it is to win 300 games in perspective, if Dontrelle retires after he's 40 he'll have to win an average of about 15 wins per season to reach 300 wins. He's averaged about 17 in his 2.75 seasons in the big leagues so far. I think he'll have to go about 4-5 seasons in a row where he averages about 19 or 20 games per year and stay relatively healthy (and productive) in his other seasons to win 300. If Miggy retires after the season in which he turns 40, he'll have to average about 24 home runs per season. Now which one seems more likely? Does anyone here think Miguel can hit 600 Home Runs? If he stays healthy and plays until his late 30s or early 40s, I think he'll get to 600. If he averages 35 home runs in the next 18 years he'll get to over 700. But I honestly think Miggy is more of a high average, high power, high RBI guy than he is a guy that will consistenly hit 45 or 50 jacks per season. If he moves to a hitter's stadium, like Coors, Minute Maid, etc., he'll definitely get to 600.
November 27, 200520 yr 500 is more likely than 300 wins. However, 300 wins would be wonderful to see.
November 27, 200520 yr Author How about this.... Who is most likely to finish with 300+ wins...Dontrelle Willis or Josh Beckett
November 27, 200520 yr How about this.... Who is most likely to finish with 300+ wins...Dontrelle Willis or Josh Beckett This one is pretty easy... Dontrelle. Josh has the history of injuries and has only two more wins than D-Train even though he's been in the big leagues two years longer.
November 27, 200520 yr Miggy is more likely to get 500 homeruns... it's easier for an every day player to not sustain major injuries during his career. To put how hard it is to win 300 games in perspective, if Dontrelle retires after he's 40 he'll have to win an average of about 15 wins per season to reach 300 wins. He's averaged about 17 in his 2.75 seasons in the big leagues so far. I think he'll have to go about 4-5 seasons in a row where he averages about 19 or 20 games per year and stay relatively healthy (and productive) in his other seasons to win 300. If Miggy retires after the season in which he turns 40, he'll have to average about 24 home runs per season. Now which one seems more likely? Does anyone here think Miguel can hit 600 Home Runs? Can he? Yes. Will he? Mabye, mabye not.
November 27, 200520 yr miggy with 500 jacks, but id rather see dontrelle get 300 wins...IMO hes a better person and he deserves it I agree.. I would rather see D-Train get 300!
November 27, 200520 yr It'd be awesome to see either happen in a Marlins uniform. :lol :lol In your dreams. Dontrelle will get his 300th with the Red Sox. Cabrera will hit his 500th with the Yankees. And the Las Vegas Royal Flushes will finish in dead last. Hey, I can hope. If the team does move/get a new stadium in the next few years, I'd expect them to lock up D-Train and Cabs for a pretty long time. Not for their entire career, but a good part of it.
November 27, 200520 yr 500 HRs is way easier. 300 wins would require Dontrelle to have 14 more seasons like last year.
November 27, 200520 yr 300 wins would require Dontrelle to have 14 more seasons like last year. That's a bit of an exaggeration. He can get 15 or 16 wins per season as long as he's durable and pitches into his early 40's.
November 27, 200520 yr Cabrera is much more likely to hit 500 over Dontrelle getting 300 wins, cause ofcourse for pitchers it is much harder, a hitter can easily reach 500 by being a consistent 30 homerun hitter, while a pitcher has to have a hand full of 20 win seasons.
November 27, 200520 yr willis is super young and at the rate he is going he will reach it but the likelyhood of any happening is hard because both need to be healthy, and on cabs side, he pretty much has it in his sights. he already has 2 30 homer seasons in his first two full seasons.
November 28, 200520 yr 500 is more likely than 300 wins. However, 300 wins would be wonderful to see. 500 HR is commonplace nowadays, whereas very few pitchers get to 300. Even Tom Glavine may not get to 300 wins, whereas Jim Thome is only 70 HR away from 500. I would say 300 wins is more comparable to 600 HR.
November 28, 200520 yr the way the game is evolving, 300 wins is infintely harder than 500 HR's Cabs has a much better chance
November 28, 200520 yr It'd be awesome to see either happen in a Marlins uniform. I'd really like to see that as well. But after this off-season I have my doubts that will come to pass. The Marlins are not the kind of team that can give out the kinds of contracts these guys will demand when the hit their FA years. We all hoped Josh Beckett and AJ Burnett would be signed long term, especially Josh. It couldn't happen. So I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Cabrera and Willis traded away for top prospects as they approach free agency.....and the cycle will start again.
November 28, 200520 yr 300 wins would require Dontrelle to have 14 more seasons like last year. That's a bit of an exaggeration. He can get 15 or 16 wins per season as long as he's durable and pitches into his early 40's. Because a lot of pitchers pitch into their early 40s...
November 28, 200520 yr It'd be awesome to see either happen in a Marlins uniform. :lol :lol In your dreams. Dontrelle will get his 300th with the Red Sox. Cabrera will hit his 500th with the Yankees. And the Las Vegas Royal Flushes will finish in dead last. I'd think theyll be called them the Vegas Aces or sonmething not related to betting
November 28, 200520 yr 300 wins would require Dontrelle to have 14 more seasons like last year. That's a bit of an exaggeration. He can get 15 or 16 wins per season as long as he's durable and pitches into his early 40's. Because a lot of pitchers pitch into their early 40s... No, not a lot. But Dontrelle has proven to be quite durable. He's got a rubber arm and is very athletic. I think he can pitch into his early 40's (meaning, 40, 41).
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