Not that I think this will happen....I'm just curious to hear everyone's reaction to this idea.

 

The Tigers are shopping Pudge. If the Tigers were willing to pick-up most of the $22M and $3M buy-out owed to Pudge over the next two years in exchange for two top notch pitching prospects do you think Loria would be interested? How would the fan base react to such a move?

I'd rather Piazza. :plain

 

Nah, won't happen. We want to go younger. Why trade a veteran catcher to get another one?

Well, it would go along with the recent strategy by the front office of bringing back former players in an attempt to appease the fanbase and show some connection with the past.

 

That being said, I think there's next to no chance it happens, considering Pudge supposedly wants to escape Detroit partially because he wants to go to a contender.

 

Sure would be interesting though.

Do it. If Benson for Pudge were halfway true, this could be pulled off quite easily.

 

Doubt he would come back, though, or for that matter, that the F.O. would welcome him back.

 

Also, just FWIW, assuming he finishes his career here, he could go into the hall as a Marlin.

PUDGE IS THE REASON WHY!!!

I hope it isnt Treanor

Do it. If Benson for Pudge were halfway true, this could be pulled off quite easily.

 

Doubt he would come back, though, or for that matter, that the F.O. would welcome him back.

 

Also, just FWIW, assuming he finishes his career here, he could go into the hall as a Marlin.

 

 

Not to mention the fact Pudge snubbed the Marlins by accepting a comparable offer by the Tigers. The fan reaction would probably be lukewarm at best. That is not to say I think this would ever happen. It won't.

Do it. If Benson for Pudge were halfway true, this could be pulled off quite easily.

 

Doubt he would come back, though, or for that matter, that the F.O. would welcome him back.

 

Also, just FWIW, assuming he finishes his career here, he could go into the hall as a Marlin.

 

 

Not to mention the fact Pudge snubbed the Marlins by accepting a comparable offer by the Tigers. The fan reaction would probably be lukewarm at best. That is not to say I think this would ever happen. It won't.

 

Um, the Tigers offer wasn't comparable at all. They gave both more years and more money, which is partially why they're in the position of having to eat some salary in order to deal Pudge.

I still maintain we're only trading everyone so we can get Manny...

Do it. If Benson for Pudge were halfway true, this could be pulled off quite easily.

 

Doubt he would come back, though, or for that matter, that the F.O. would welcome him back.

 

Also, just FWIW, assuming he finishes his career here, he could go into the hall as a Marlin.

 

 

Not to mention the fact Pudge snubbed the Marlins by accepting a comparable offer by the Tigers. The fan reaction would probably be lukewarm at best. That is not to say I think this would ever happen. It won't.

 

Um, the Tigers offer wasn't comparable at all. They gave both more years and more money, which is partially why they're in the position of having to eat some salary in order to deal Pudge.

 

There was a $2 million dollar difference per year. When we are talking about the Marlins, that is a comparable offer.

I hope it isnt Treanor

 

 

Yeah man... Great story he has, but I don't want to see him as our starting C this coming season... My first thought when I heard about this trade, was... "God, I hope we get someone to replace him.. not Treanor"..

 

I wouldn't put it past this front office to bring Pudge back though... At first, the payroll was said to be coming down to around $40 mil, so we'll see.

There was a $2 million dollar difference per year. When we are talking about the Marlins, that is a comparable offer.

 

The Tigers also offered Pudge a 4th year. There are provisions in his contract that the contract can be cancelled if he is on the DL 5 or more weeks.

It wouldn't make sense to trade for Pudge.

 

a. He's more expensive.

 

b. Even if the Tigers did help pay his salary, we'd have to give them top prospects in return.

 

Pudge may be better than Lo Duca, but not by all that much. If we wanted a very good catcher, we could've just kept Lo Duca for 6 mil and then we wouldn't have had to give up prospects. It makes no sense.

There was a $2 million dollar difference per year. When we are talking about the Marlins, that is a comparable offer.

 

The Tigers also offered Pudge a 4th year. There are provisions in his contract that the contract can be cancelled if he is on the DL 5 or more weeks.

 

Not anymore, it's all guaranteed money.

It wouldn't make sense to trade for Pudge.

 

a. He's more expensive.

 

b. Even if the Tigers did help pay his salary, we'd have to give them top prospects in return.

 

Pudge may be better than Lo Duca, but not by all that much. If we wanted a very good catcher, we could've just kept Lo Duca for 6 mil and then we wouldn't have had to give up prospects. It makes no sense.

 

 

It could make sense. What if the Tigers paid half of his remaining salary? That would be LESS than we would have paid LoDuca. If we send back two prospects of our liking that's a wash from what we received. Lord knows we have a surplus of pitching prospects in our system now.

It wouldn't make sense to trade for Pudge.

 

a. He's more expensive.

 

b. Even if the Tigers did help pay his salary, we'd have to give them top prospects in return.

 

Pudge may be better than Lo Duca, but not by all that much. If we wanted a very good catcher, we could've just kept Lo Duca for 6 mil and then we wouldn't have had to give up prospects. It makes no sense.

 

 

 

It doesnt have tp management has gone insane :plain

It wouldn't make sense to trade for Pudge.

 

a. He's more expensive.

 

b. Even if the Tigers did help pay his salary, we'd have to give them top prospects in return.

 

Pudge may be better than Lo Duca, but not by all that much. If we wanted a very good catcher, we could've just kept Lo Duca for 6 mil and then we wouldn't have had to give up prospects. It makes no sense.

 

 

It could make sense. What if the Tigers paid half of his remaining salary? That would be LESS than we would have paid LoDuca. If we send back two prospects of our liking that's a wash from what we received. Lord knows we have a surplus of pitching prospects in our system now.

 

I know, but what I'm saying is that if they did pay half of his salary, we'd have to give up quite a lot to get him. We'd save, what, 2 or 3 million and give up some great prospects in return? Wouldn't be worth it IMO.

It wouldn't make sense to trade for Pudge.

 

a. He's more expensive.

 

b. Even if the Tigers did help pay his salary, we'd have to give them top prospects in return.

 

Pudge may be better than Lo Duca, but not by all that much. If we wanted a very good catcher, we could've just kept Lo Duca for 6 mil and then we wouldn't have had to give up prospects. It makes no sense.

 

 

It could make sense. What if the Tigers paid half of his remaining salary? That would be LESS than we would have paid LoDuca. If we send back two prospects of our liking that's a wash from what we received. Lord knows we have a surplus of pitching prospects in our system now.

 

Still a lot of ifs. Even if the Tigers were willing to pay half of his remaining salary, I am just not convinced the Marlins are willing to spend what it would take to bring Pudge back. The only word coming out of the FO is they are dumping salary and we have heard nothing about bringing quality veterans to fill the holes. I'm just waiting to see how it all settles.

We need a catcher with a decent bat and can handle a young pitching staff

It wouldn't make sense to trade for Pudge.

 

a. He's more expensive.

 

b. Even if the Tigers did help pay his salary, we'd have to give them top prospects in return.

 

Pudge may be better than Lo Duca, but not by all that much. If we wanted a very good catcher, we could've just kept Lo Duca for 6 mil and then we wouldn't have had to give up prospects. It makes no sense.

 

 

It could make sense. What if the Tigers paid half of his remaining salary? That would be LESS than we would have paid LoDuca. If we send back two prospects of our liking that's a wash from what we received. Lord knows we have a surplus of pitching prospects in our system now.

 

Still a lot of ifs. Even if the Tigers were willing to pay half of his remaining salary, I am just not convinced the Marlins are willing to spend what it would take to bring Pudge back. The only word coming out of the FO is they are dumping salary and we have heard nothing about bringing quality veterans to fill the holes. I'm just waiting to see how it all settles.

 

I know. By all indications it looks like the FO is trying to field a team with the absolute minimum payroll conceivable next year. Even paying Pudge $5.5M would be excessive.

 

I'm just wondering how the fan base would take it and if that would soften the blow from all the trades this off-season.

It wouldn't make sense to trade for Pudge.

 

a. He's more expensive.

 

b. Even if the Tigers did help pay his salary, we'd have to give them top prospects in return.

 

Pudge may be better than Lo Duca, but not by all that much. If we wanted a very good catcher, we could've just kept Lo Duca for 6 mil and then we wouldn't have had to give up prospects. It makes no sense.

 

 

It could make sense. What if the Tigers paid half of his remaining salary? That would be LESS than we would have paid LoDuca. If we send back two prospects of our liking that's a wash from what we received. Lord knows we have a surplus of pitching prospects in our system now.

 

Still a lot of ifs. Even if the Tigers were willing to pay half of his remaining salary, I am just not convinced the Marlins are willing to spend what it would take to bring Pudge back. The only word coming out of the FO is they are dumping salary and we have heard nothing about bringing quality veterans to fill the holes. I'm just waiting to see how it all settles.

 

I know. By all indications it looks like the FO is trying to field a team with the absolute minimum payroll conceivable next year. Even paying Pudge $5.5M would be excessive.

 

I'm just wondering how the fan base would take it and if that would soften the blow from all the trades this off-season.

 

At this point, nothing can soften the blow(s). The damage is done. I think the FO is just cutting their losses at this point, but I would like to be suprised.

Rotoworld:

 

According to the Miami Herald, before Paul Lo Duca was shipped to the Mets yesterday, the Marlins and Diamondbacks agreed on a trade that would have sent the catcher to Arizona for a package of prospects, only to have the deal fall apart when the Diamondbacks also asked for $1 million in cash considerations.

 

It currently appears unlikely that Lo Duca will be sent from the Mets to Arizona in a Javier Vazquez deal, but nothing has been ruled out. As for the Marlins, the Sun-Sentinel mentions Charles Johnson and John Flaherty as possible free-agent acquisitions at catcher to replace Lo Duca. They could also pursue Yorvit Torrealba and Josh Bard in trade talks. Also, they could ask for Kelly Shoppach in return if the Red Sox decide to try for Juan Pierre.

 

GET SHOPPACH!!

 

But I suspect Damon will re-sign with the Red Sox, so I doubt they'll go after Pierre.

 

John Flaherty, now THAT fills me with confidence. :plain

didnt pudge wanted to be traded from detroit bc hes sick of losing?

 

wow...good call on that one.....

Hmm.. C.J or Flaherty??? Pick your poison, I guess... C.J is the sentimental favorite, in my opinion, but he's lost it. He is nowhere near the player he was 8 years ago...

Why would we trade our future for a player that will be too old once we are ready to compete in 2-4yrs?