Fishfan79 Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 The San Diego Chargers have a serious problem on their hands. It's a heart-wrenching issue, really. One that will certainly cause many fans of the Miami Dolphins to quiver with sympathy and emotion. The dilemma? They have too many talented quarterbacks. "They'll have to make a decision about us at the end of the year," San Diego starting quarterback Drew Brees said Wednesday. "I've made it known that I want to be in San Diego for a long, long time. I want a commitment from (the Chargers)." Such a conundrum. But perhaps the Dolphins could help. Since San Diego drafted Philip Rivers with the No. 4 pick in the 2004 draft, Brees has been playing to Pro Bowl caliber. As a result, when the off-season arrives, the Chargers must decide what to do with their pair of top-notch quarterbacks. They could trade Rivers to the highest bidder in need at the position. They could also trade Brees should they decide to keep the younger prospect. Or, of course, they could swallow the money and keep both quarterbacks ? a more unlikely scenario. So could the Dolphins' quarterback of the future be standing on the opposite sideline Sunday when Miami travels to San Diego? "You never know how things are going to work out," Brees said. Not that Brees thinks he'll be the one to make such a move. "I would assume after this year that a decision would be made, that one of us would be gone," Brees said. "I absolutely feel like I'm the future of this organization at the quarterback position." So if Brees' hopes are fulfilled, that makes Rivers a potentially marketable commodity. Reports out of San Diego are that it could take as much as an early first-round draft pick and a veteran starter to spark a blockbuster deal. "But this is one of those hard trades to make," warns Gil Brandt, the former longtime personnel director of the Dallas Cowboys. That's because of money issues. Rivers carries a salary of nearly $14.3 million, and he's signed through 2010. Such a hefty fee could deter teams such as the New York Jets, who often have been associated with the Rivers-Brees watch. The Jets need a quarterback and will have the commodities to trade with, but they might not have the room with their struggling salary cap. The Dolphins, though, are more financially sound. Although that's not to say Rivers would be the right guy for the system. "If your looking for a down-the-field thrower, he is not the guy," former NFL quarterback Phil Simms said. "There are plenty of offenses that he could fit into, but it depends on what you're going to do." And since Dolphins offensive coordinator Scott Linehan has an affinity for deep passes, Simms doesn't see a proper fit. Simms isn't particularly impressed by Rivers' ability, either ? even if the quarterback finished his career at N.C. State ranked second among passers in NCAA history. That's because Rivers is not particularly fast ? he ran a 5.08 in the 40-yard dash before the draft ? and he lacks a consistent deep ball. "He's not the playmaker," said Simms, who suggested the Dolphins would be better off convincing Notre Dame junior quarterback Brady Quinn to enter the draft. "But the market for Philip Rivers will be driven up by hype, by people who say the Chargers' best quarterback is sitting on the bench. "That's a very easy thing to say when there's no proof of it otherwise." The verdict is still out on whether Rivers will be traded ? or whether the Dolphins would be interested. League rules prohibit coach Nick Saban from discussing any potential of acquiring another team's player. And Chargers coach Marty Schottenheimer said that decision won't be made until the post-season. Schottenheimer said he thinks it's still possible to keep both quarterbacks, as the team anticipates being nearly $20 million below next year's projected salary cap. "There's always going to be a No. 1 and a No. 2," Schottenheimer said. "Fortunately, when we get down the road at the conclusion of the season, we'll be in a position (financially) to have both of them here if that's what we choose to do." Most ? including Brees ? expect otherwise. For now, Rivers will continue to do his job ? even if it means being the top seat-warmer in the league. "He's doing an excellent job," Schottenheimer said. "He's not the guy taking the snaps every week, but he's working hard and preparing himself for that eventuality." An eventuality, however, that might or might not occur in San Diego. http://www.palmbeachpost.com/dolphin...VERS_1208.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 A early 1st rounder and a vet? I would think Rivers is going to be the one available and I don't know if he's worth that after playing bench paperweight for so long now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonDigital Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 a 1st rounder and a vet for unproven talent? id pass and try my hand in free agency. i just dont trust giving up that much for someone who has been sitting on the bench for 2 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Guapo Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 wow, i would love to see Brady Quinn as a Dolphin.......He can throw the ball deep,corners,short he has it all.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishfan79 Posted December 9, 2005 Author Share Posted December 9, 2005 I would give up a 3rd for Rivers nothing more personally. Unless then want howard too lol. But, mainly I would be interested in Quinn or Cutler (in the 2nd).. Coyle in the 4th interests me too but not sure if he falls there from the 3rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odom006 Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 okay, there def not gonna trade drew who keeps winning and playin like a pro bowler qb "which is hard to find in the NFL now a days"... to start an unproven qb and if they want a 1st round pick and another person there outta there f***in mind...... i dont wanna give up a first rounder just to get rivers im a maryland fan i seen rivers play in college and as good as he was back than how f*** am i suppose to know he can do that in the nfl....... the man has no xperince what so eva..... you tellin me we giv up our 1st rounder which is prob gonna be pick # "11-17" in the draft and hope rivers comes in and makes an instant impact..... what are the odds of that sh*t happning? as 4 Brady Quinn " somebody plz tell me what is so speacial bout this kid?" in Willinham offense the kid sucked he was nothing more than a average qb.... now he is in a diffrent stystem and all of a sudden his stats are lookin good and people are talking about Heisman for 2006........ he'll be a moron if he comes outta college to go the draft this year... and as 4 next year i feel sry for the franchise that takes em as a 1st pick...... and back to Rivers when he was commin in to the draft they had the man projected as a late 1st rounder early 2nd rounder.... and now we have to trade a mid 1st round pick to get em...... "f*** EM" Jay Cutler on the other hand... i dunno much bout em i they have compared em to farve..... i gotta see his bowl game be4 i can even make a comment on em....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Guapo Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 okay, there def not gonna trade drew who keeps winning and playin like a pro bowler qb "which is hard to find in the NFL now a days"... to start an unproven qb and if they want a 1st round pick and another person there outta there f***in mind...... i dont wanna give up a first rounder just to get rivers im a maryland fan i seen rivers play in college and as good as he was back than how f*** am i suppose to know he can do that in the nfl....... the man has no xperince what so eva..... you tellin me we giv up our 1st rounder which is prob gonna be pick # "11-17" in the draft and hope rivers comes in and makes an instant impact..... what are the odds of that sh*t happning? as 4 Brady Quinn " somebody plz tell me what is so speacial bout this kid?" in Willinham offense the kid sucked he was nothing more than a average qb.... now he is in a diffrent stystem and all of a sudden his stats are lookin good and people are talking about Heisman for 2006........ he'll be a moron if he comes outta college to go the draft this year... and as 4 next year i feel sry for the franchise that takes em as a 1st pick...... and back to Rivers when he was commin in to the draft they had the man projected as a late 1st rounder early 2nd rounder.... and now we have to trade a mid 1st round pick to get em...... "f*** EM" Jay Cutler on the other hand... i dunno much bout em i they have compared em to farve..... i gotta see his bowl game be4 i can even make a comment on em....... your going to eat your words about Mr.Quinn, your right about the part that he shouldn't come out thius year cause he'll be twice as valuable next season......you'll see this guy is going to be winning big games on sunday's for along time...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 I say we go after Pitt's backup. Git r done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fritz Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 I say we go after Pitt's backup. Git r done Tommy Maddox? :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 I say we go after Pitt's backup. Git r done Tommy Maddox? :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol I hope you know I was joking.... :plain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fritz Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 I say we go after Pitt's backup. Git r done Tommy Maddox? :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol I hope you know I was joking.... :plain Sorry, you just got me worried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeye Posted December 11, 2005 Share Posted December 11, 2005 Quinn's staying. Especially after he gets his ass beat by the Buckeyes and has to prove to himself he can do it next season. Just sayin'. Rivers is as of yet, untested. I'd rather get Jon Kitna in the offseason and draft brand new quarterback who hasn't worked under any other system and have hime watch JK do his thang. That's just my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinYankee3542 Posted December 11, 2005 Share Posted December 11, 2005 They should try to draft Matt Leinart if they can, if they can't. Then they should try to trade for Rivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ShaqandWade323 Posted December 11, 2005 Share Posted December 11, 2005 The Dolphins will not get close to Leinart. If there are good no good QB's available in our spot then get the best defensive back off the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finfan9113 Posted December 11, 2005 Share Posted December 11, 2005 DB is not our problem Travis Daniels will improve next year Will Poole will be back. Sam Madison is tradeable for a 3rd rounder this team needs a WR Boston is always injured Chambers is set and Marty Bookers a better thrower than WR this team needs a stud to line up next to Chambers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beinfest4Prez Posted December 11, 2005 Share Posted December 11, 2005 They should try to draft Matt Leinart if they can, if they can't. Then they should try to trade for Rivers. Leinart will be a horrendous NFL quarterback. The guy has got little arm strength and had the luck of having Reggie Bush and Lendale White in addition to all of the rest of the NFL offensive talent on that team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanleyDavidson Posted December 11, 2005 Share Posted December 11, 2005 i say the dolphins get vince young,marcus vick if he enters,or matt baker and maybe even omar jacobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishfan79 Posted December 11, 2005 Author Share Posted December 11, 2005 jay cutler (1st/2nd) pinegar (like 4th round) Croyle (3rd or 4th) Those are the most likely canidates to be drafted by us. I expect Cutler personally. Trade back in the first for an extra pick and take up the kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted December 11, 2005 Share Posted December 11, 2005 Here's my take. Dolphins pick an OL or DB...trade down and get a late first round QB. And that QB's name is Jay Cutler. Best possible scenario. And I know I just didn't see Croyle's name mentioned in this thread. Oh God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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