MarlinatPenn Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 12/13/2005 6:01 PM ET Marlins in talks with Rays for Gathright Left-handed prospect Olsen a possibility to be traded By Joe Frisaro / MLB.com  MIAMI -- In the market to land a speedy center fielder to replace Juan Pierre, the Marlins have had discussions with the Devil Rays about acquiring burner Joey Gathright.  According to a Major League source, the Marlins are considering parting with left-handed pitcher Scott Olsen for Gathright.  Gathright appeared in 76 games and hit .276 with 20 stolen bases in 25 attempts last season. The Marlins are weighing a number of center field options to replace Pierre, who was dealt to the Cubs last week for three pitchers.  Having a speedy center fielder is critical for the Marlins, who play at spacious Dolphins Stadium.  Gathright would provide the Marlins with a leadoff hitter to replace Pierre. Brought up in 2004, Gathright has a .271 career batting average and a .316 on-base percentage. He has stolen 26 bases while being caught six times.  Many scouts consider Gathright to be one of the fastest players in the Major Leagues.  While Olsen is a highly-regarded pitching prospect, the Marlins have recently stockpiled a great deal of young pitching through numerous offseason trades.  Olsen appeared in five games with four starts for the Marlins in 2005, going 1-1 with a 3.98 ERA. The Devil Rays got a good look at Olsen on June 25, as the left-hander stymied them to the run of one earned run over 5 2/3 innings to collect the win in his Major League debut.  Olsen was bothered by elbow tendinitis much of the second half of the season, but he is healthy now. And if he is not moved in a trade, Olsen is expected to compete for a rotation spot for the Marlins in Spring Training. Joe Frisaro is a reporter for MLB.com. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowa Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 I'd like to see Gathright here... but not for Olsen. No way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanks1212 Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 :banghead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishHarrington Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 I would like to keep Olsen but we do have A TON of pitching prospects and if the Marlins think they have people better than Olsen I am not opposed to making a deal like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSwift25 Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Given the nature of our rebuilding, Olsen should be near untouchable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsprt05 Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Which pitching prospect would you rather give up?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willisandcabrera Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 I have a good feeling about Olsen and I really don't think we should trade him. He should be pretty good in our rotation next year and I agree that he should be near untouchable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowa Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Vargas Olsen Sanchez Volstad Gaby Petit Johnson ..should not be traded for Gathright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinatPenn Posted December 13, 2005 Author Share Posted December 13, 2005 that's what I figured it would take to get him... there's a lot of team after Gathright, you aren't gonna just steal him for nothing, they want the best offer they can get... the Marlins are deep at young talented starting left-handers... I'd rather not trade him, but if it's what it takes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willisandcabrera Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Vargas Olsen Sanchez Volstad Gaby Petit Johnson ..should not be traded for Gathright. I completly agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSwift25 Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Which pitching prospect would you rather give up??  Anyone acquired through the trades except for Sanchez. Gathright isn't that good, he's just fast, and speed is seriously overrated when you're a shaky defender and a bad bunter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsprt05 Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Which pitching prospect would you rather give up??  Anyone acquired through the trades except for Sanchez. Gathright isn't that good, he's just fast, and speed is seriously overrated when you're a shaky defender and a bad bunter. Before you even look at who you are going to trade for to get him, should Gathright even be traded for?? I mean most things I have read tell me he's severely overrated... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinatPenn Posted December 13, 2005 Author Share Posted December 13, 2005 what's the difference, what makes Olsen so untouchable among all the others? I don't get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSwift25 Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 what's the difference, what makes Olsen so untouchable among all the others? I don't get it.  K/9 numbers in the minors, true ace stuff (probably more-so than any pitcher on our staff, Willis included), and the fact that he's going to be 22 next season and truly major league ready. As far as a pitching prospect goes, he's top of the line, and at the very least, the top of our incredibly deep system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 I'd do Petit and Harvey (OF) for Gathright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinivedivichi Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 I seriously don't understand this...... There is supposedly a "Premium" on young pitching, yet we can't get any decent young positional players unless we give up our best arms. Olsen is a top 25 prospect, where's Gaithright? If the premium thing was correct, shouldn't we be able to use decent young pitchers to get good young hitters? Seems like it's the other way around to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSwift25 Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 I'd do Petit and Harvey (OF) for Gathright.  No freakin' way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowa Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 what's the difference, what makes Olsen so untouchable among all the others? I don't get it. It's not that he's untouchable, he's just not worth giving up for a player of Gathright's ability, imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 I'd do Petit and Harvey (OF) for Gathright.  No freakin' way. Why?????  I think it's a joke that everyone here says we overrate other team players. We overrated our own players. Petit is nothing great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My3Username Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Vargas Olsen Sanchez Volstad Gaby Petit Johnson ..should not be traded for Gathright. I completly agree. Same here. This is what I was afraid off. http://www.marlinbaseball.com/forums/index...6entry1012636 Olsen was recently ranked as the 26 best prospect by RotoAmerica.com(look in the minor league section). I sure hope to God the Marlins come to there senses and don't make this deal. Unless the trade expands to we give up Olsen and someone like Logan Kensing for Joey Gomes and Joey Gathright we get fleeced. Unfortunately I have a feeling that this trade is gonna go down and the Devils Rays are gonna have another nasty lefty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSwift25 Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 I'd do Petit and Harvey (OF) for Gathright.  No freakin' way. Why????? Harvey had great numbers in college last year, has huge upside, and the only gripe is poor strike-zone judgement. His tools are there, he's a two way player (pitch or play 3rd/outfield) and he's got great power. Petit on his own is probably worth more than Gathright, throwing in Harvey isn't a good move. The highest I'd be willing to go would be Nolasco one for one for Gathright. I know that probably wouldn't get it done, but such is life... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My3Username Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 I'd do Petit and Harvey (OF) for Gathright.   No offense but you would make a horrible Gm. Atleast if your a Marlin fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buccanes Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Id trade Josh Johnson or Petit before Olsen I agree that we do tend to overrate our prospects, who might not amount to crap in 2 years.. for all we know Olsen could be injury prone and never live up to the hype Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanks1212 Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 I'd rather not trade for Gathright at all, especially if the price is Olsen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowa Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Id trade Josh Johnson or Petit before Olsen Agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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