April 6, 200620 yr BUILD A STADIUM!! H.B., the Marlins will get their stadium when your cat grows another ear. Seriously, I'm calling the ASPCA on you. :lol He has an ear. Holly -- you're a miracle worker! We get a new stadium! It has been prophesied! WE GET A NEW STADIUM! :happydance :happydance :happydance
April 6, 200620 yr the mermaids can actually look like hot chicks instead of low white trash. that'd be good for a few. and defintely, free ticket vouchers, who cares if they're free or not and they don't get money from concessions and parking, its not a big empty orange bowl and being humiliated on a daily basis in press and national television. i would rather have 30,000 fans with only 8000 paid than 15,000 paid total.
April 6, 200620 yr Author i would rather have 30,000 fans with only 8000 paid than 15,000 paid total. Yep. Who cares if the tickets were free or low priced. We are getting people in the park. Maybe we can do.. Buy one ticket get the other free. :thumbup . Atleast one person has to buy a ticket.
April 6, 200620 yr Just giving out free tickets doesn't solve the solution short or long-term. Deeply discounted tickets, ticket incentives (IE buy one get one) and such represent a much greater solution for the franchise. By just handing out free tickets to a family of four, the Marlins establish their value as "nothing" so when the team becomes good again, fans will be more reluctant to pay higher prices. The focus has to be on getting fans to the ballpark at regular or near regular prices and then making them feel as if they received their money's worth so they keep coming back. Problem is, what that means is vastly different to different people. Win or lose, if I see a good game, I'm happy. Some people may only be happy if their favorite player plays and signs a baseball for them. Some people may want blinking shiny things in their face at all time and need New York style between inning loud entertainment. It's a real problem, and it can't be solved with free tickets.
April 6, 200620 yr get a stadium deal complete with no attachments (like additional funding from the State) once the average fan can trust that the team will be here for the long haul, they will be back My thoughts exactly!!!!!!!!!!!
April 6, 200620 yr Just giving out free tickets doesn't solve the solution short or long-term. Deeply discounted tickets, ticket incentives (IE buy one get one) and such represent a much greater solution for the franchise. By just handing out free tickets to a family of four, the Marlins establish their value as "nothing" so when the team becomes good again, fans will be more reluctant to pay higher prices. The focus has to be on getting fans to the ballpark at regular or near regular prices and then making them feel as if they received their money's worth so they keep coming back. Problem is, what that means is vastly different to different people. Win or lose, if I see a good game, I'm happy. Some people may only be happy if their favorite player plays and signs a baseball for them. Some people may want blinking shiny things in their face at all time and need New York style between inning loud entertainment. It's a real problem, and it can't be solved with free tickets. Free tickets aren't anything that's going to help with the problem long term, but it'd make things better this year.
April 6, 200620 yr Just giving out free tickets doesn't solve the solution short or long-term. Deeply discounted tickets, ticket incentives (IE buy one get one) and such represent a much greater solution for the franchise. By just handing out free tickets to a family of four, the Marlins establish their value as "nothing" so when the team becomes good again, fans will be more reluctant to pay higher prices. The focus has to be on getting fans to the ballpark at regular or near regular prices and then making them feel as if they received their money's worth so they keep coming back. Problem is, what that means is vastly different to different people. Win or lose, if I see a good game, I'm happy. Some people may only be happy if their favorite player plays and signs a baseball for them. Some people may want blinking shiny things in their face at all time and need New York style between inning loud entertainment. It's a real problem, and it can't be solved with free tickets. It can't be solved by low ticket prices either. They had that years ago and then last year when they rose ticket prices 25% or whatever they did the fans were 'outraged'. Everyone was all pissed and bitching non stop even though the product on the field was going to be significantly better. I think free actually is a better thing because that gets people who normally wouldn't go to a baseball game to go. Who knows they may love it and decide to buy more tickets. We saw it in this forum with the Free panther tickets. People got excited and loved that this was being done. I just think this can be how to get some of the fans back. It's not like they would be losing money.
April 7, 200620 yr driving and parking are such a pain for fans (especially those in the north counties), what about some kind of bus system or something, leave from a few choice spots particularly for weekend games when there are enough people that are interested in going; people can pay a few bucks fare, not feel like they're getting ripped off as for parking, and not have to deal with the drive.
April 7, 200620 yr i think you guys are wrong. Free tickets will solve a problem. maybe short term financially it doesn't solve anything but its accomplishing two things. 1, its putting people in the ballpark, some may never have gone to a baseball game before and had a friend say, hey i got free tickets to see the marlins do you wanna go and hang out, and at worst, at least they're at the game, at best they'll fall in love watching these guys play and then go and pay their money. personal experience i brought a friend that i hadn't hung out iwth for a long time and i was like do u wanna go to the baseball game my buddy got free tix, and she wasl ike okay.... this was in july of 2003. we ended up going to like every other game on the schedule, when we couldn't get free tix we would pay. and we payed for playoffs as well... someone may say that its because oh well this year they suck and its boring your wrong. these guys are going to be helluvalotta fun to watch and i believe that by inviting a different group to go see the team, it will turn some into great fans. even if its 1 person out of every hundred thats an extra 1,000 people over the course of 100,000 free tickets. 1000 real fans would be awesome to go and pay and see.
April 7, 200620 yr The Marlins have some of the best ticket promotions in the majors though IMO. Last year what did they have, the Publix promotion, the Burger King promotion, and at least one more that I can't think of now. And I'm pretty sure those specials were "buy one get 1 free" type deals. Now, I didn't use any of these promotions because I was going to pay full price for my ticket anyway because I wanted to pick my seat, but if you were new to baseball and just wanted something to do on the weekday going to a baseball game for what probably ended up totalling like $15 is a STEAL. Especially for a team as talented as last year's. Of course, the venue isn't that great but it's baseball and its $15. I used to buy tickets behind homeplate because you can't sit behind homeplate for $35 anywhere else. In my book it was a steal! I understand the reasoning behind free tickets. Anything that is free people will want to go. But The Marlins have almost done that with 1/2 priced day games and 1/2 price promitions w/ local businesses. You really can't beat that. Look, the reason people haven't and won't want to go to the ballpark, besides the obvious venue/location reasons, is the negative press the team has been getting. But I think the real reason behind the Marlins' habitual "falure" (notice the quotation marks) in South Florida is that they have yet to have a manager that has realized one key ingredient to building a fanbase; tradition. Baseball is a sport that requires a lot more passion from it's fans than say football or basketball. Most people see baseball as boring, but those who enjoy it have a passion for the game. The Marlins have had the ability to build that passion and tradition with 2 world series wins, but have unfortuntatly had to sell the team off to recoup losses which in turn kills off the new fans. I think if the Marlins made a playoff run last year the fan base in south florida would have finally begun to sprout and take hold on the fact that we were starting to build a winning tradition with homegrown players and not just buying up the farm (minus Delgado, Enc, and LoDuca). This is why a new stadium won't solve everything.
April 7, 200620 yr i think you guys are wrong. Free tickets will solve a problem. maybe short term financially it doesn't solve anything but its accomplishing two things. 1, its putting people in the ballpark, some may never have gone to a baseball game before and had a friend say, hey i got free tickets to see the marlins do you wanna go and hang out, and at worst, at least they're at the game, at best they'll fall in love watching these guys play and then go and pay their money. personal experience i brought a friend that i hadn't hung out iwth for a long time and i was like do u wanna go to the baseball game my buddy got free tix, and she wasl ike okay.... this was in july of 2003. we ended up going to like every other game on the schedule, when we couldn't get free tix we would pay. and we payed for playoffs as well... someone may say that its because oh well this year they suck and its boring your wrong. these guys are going to be helluvalotta fun to watch and i believe that by inviting a different group to go see the team, it will turn some into great fans. even if its 1 person out of every hundred thats an extra 1,000 people over the course of 100,000 free tickets. 1000 real fans would be awesome to go and pay and see. Baseball is not a new phenomena to South Florida. There's very little incentive to introduce baseball. For a good many, they'd have their fill of baseball in February and March at cheap prices to see the game's best players for a few innings in exhibition ball and collect many autographs. For a good many, that's all they need. Any additional craving they might have is readily available through FSN, TBS, WGN, ESPN, Fox and Extra Innings. At their convenience and broadcasting teams and players they connect with. There's very little the Marlins can do to compete with that. Also if you told me something was free and I had to work to get there, I'm not going to make the effort. After all, it's free (or cheap to use TSwft's example) so the quality must not be very good and the opportunity will be there again. I'll keep on telling myself that until the season is over. Same thing when someone offers a cheap concert with some half-way interesting bands at a dive bar. I suspect the concert is going to start late, the soundguy to be an idiot, the only 3 people there will be annoying and I'm going to be at the bar all night trying to block everything out. So nine times out of ten I don't go, and that one time very rarely is a positive experience that draws me back. And let's say I actually buy tickets and hear this offer of free tickets, I'm going to try to get that if possible. It is a detriment to both the present (few takers; fostering a negative impression of a ticketholder's asset) and the future (fostering a negative impression of the product to current and future clients; difficulty returning to more credible pricing) ability of the Marlins to maximize revenues.
April 7, 200620 yr nice giveaways..the attendence always seems to be higher when there's a cool giveaway. they should give out some marlin t-shirts. they need to get the players involved with the fans..and not just with the season ticket holders..they need to reach out to all fans. simply they need to make it fun to come out to the ballpark..i wouldn't mind the complimentary mermaid lapdance
April 7, 200620 yr T-shirt giveaways are an idea I can get around. Free advertising Actually it's a helluva good idea. :thumbup
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