June 12, 200620 yr We need to re-sign Cabrera and Willis. I understand it will require major amounts of cash, but you have to spend money to make money. Show the fans we're committed to winning and they'll start coming to the park. Then, we have something to show the City of Miami and State of Florida. Right now, they don't see a stadium as a good investment. Our team is young, but we've been playing pretty good lately. If we can add a free agent or two, and keep this young core, we can be trouble for the NL next year.
June 12, 200620 yr Isn't 2 World Series Championships enough? Why would you ever settle for two, when you can have more?
June 12, 200620 yr Isn't 2 World Series Championships enough? Why would you ever settle for two, when you can have more? you're a yankees fan, aren't you?
June 12, 200620 yr "Show the fans we're committed to winning and they'll start coming to the park." Alex Fernandez Carlos Del Gado Pudge Shef Moises Alou Leiter (yeah, I know...) CJ (ditto) Willis Payroll commitment has really been there for years - people in general just don't come. They'd ratgher wait for a victory parade (which is free). We have to be realistic and wring every ounce of productivity from these young players before we write the big checks (which hopefully we will after the stadium is a done deal).
June 12, 200620 yr We need to re-sign Cabrera and Willis. I understand it will require major amounts of cash, but you have to spend money to make money. Show the fans we're committed to winning and they'll start coming to the park. Then, we have something to show the City of Miami and State of Florida. Right now, they don't see a stadium as a good investment. Our team is young, but we've been playing pretty good lately. If we can add a free agent or two, and keep this young core, we can be trouble for the NL next year. Ownership did that in 2004 AND 2005 and still nobody showed up. Unless this team changes its name to the Miami Dolphins, this team will never truly have a devoted fanbase.
June 12, 200620 yr We need to re-sign Cabrera and Willis. I understand it will require major amounts of cash, but you have to spend money to make money. Show the fans we're committed to winning and they'll start coming to the park. Then, we have something to show the City of Miami and State of Florida. Right now, they don't see a stadium as a good investment. Our team is young, but we've been playing pretty good lately. If we can add a free agent or two, and keep this young core, we can be trouble for the NL next year. We are trouble for the NL now! ...BTW I was indicating to world championships should be indication of the quality of this organization to the people of S Fl Our Marlins have overachieved the Miami Dolphins. They deserve the Love and respect of S Fl already! Are you indicating S Florida won't care about the Marlins unless they win a championship every year? If that is the case then the Marlins should just go. I don't believe it to be true, Ownership and a poor facility have been a hindrance to this baseball team...If you build it they would come!... Ownership needs to prove itself to the community, if they don't express commitment to S Fl they should give way to local ownership who will! The fans don't need more lip service, they require real action. It entails more than just signing a couple of F/As here and there, actually a full engagement from the FO to make baseball a part of south Florida...The Stadium is step 1
June 12, 200620 yr We need to re-sign Cabrera and Willis. I understand it will require major amounts of cash, but you have to spend money to make money. Show the fans we're committed to winning and they'll start coming to the park. Then, we have something to show the City of Miami and State of Florida. Right now, they don't see a stadium as a good investment. Our team is young, but we've been playing pretty good lately. If we can add a free agent or two, and keep this young core, we can be trouble for the NL next year. Ownership did that in 2004 AND 2005 and still nobody showed up. Unless this team changes its name to the Miami Dolphins, this team will never truly have a devoted fanbase. I disagree, you just need time, alot of time. Patience, time and a ballpark together should eventually yield top numbers for fans there.
June 12, 200620 yr We need to re-sign Cabrera and Willis. I understand it will require major amounts of cash, but you have to spend money to make money. Show the fans we're committed to winning and they'll start coming to the park. Then, we have something to show the City of Miami and State of Florida. Right now, they don't see a stadium as a good investment. Our team is young, but we've been playing pretty good lately. If we can add a free agent or two, and keep this young core, we can be trouble for the NL next year. Ownership did that in 2004 AND 2005 and still nobody showed up. Unless this team changes its name to the Miami Dolphins, this team will never truly have a devoted fanbase. I disagree, you just need time, alot of time. Patience, time and a ballpark together should eventually yield top numbers for fans there. Other than the stability of the franchise, there is no reason why a team that has won 2 World Series Championships could only draw 23,000 on average the past two seasons. I don't like our ownership, I don't agree with our ownership, but how much more should these guys have done to get people out to the ballpark?
June 12, 200620 yr it is not about showing commitment to winning, but about building a winning tradition, and that deffinitely has not happened.
June 12, 200620 yr We need to re-sign Cabrera and Willis. I understand it will require major amounts of cash, but you have to spend money to make money. Show the fans we're committed to winning and they'll start coming to the park. Then, we have something to show the City of Miami and State of Florida. Right now, they don't see a stadium as a good investment. Our team is young, but we've been playing pretty good lately. If we can add a free agent or two, and keep this young core, we can be trouble for the NL next year. Ownership did that in 2004 AND 2005 and still nobody showed up. Unless this team changes its name to the Miami Dolphins, this team will never truly have a devoted fanbase. Not really. How did not resigning Pudge Rodriguez show the fans that the Marlins were committed to winning in 2004? It also doesn't help to replace Derrek Lee with Hee Seop Choi. Immediately after the World Series the media was talking about who they predicted would stay and who would go. The ONLY way the Marlins showed ANY commitment to winning in those years is by signing Carlos Delgado. Well, I guess you can possibly mention the resignings of Lowell and Castillo, but they took discounts to stay there. Not like the FO was really going out of its way. penquino I understand your point. But just because this team won it in '03 didn't mean that ownership was suddenly going to find a pot full of gold to resign Pudge and D-Lee. I like to think that they atleast tried to resign Rodriguez and couldn't give him more than he was asking for. Its probably not the truth, but thats what I would like to think. And the D-Lee for Hee Seop Choi experiment was an absolute failure for this team and they should have atleast tried to get into serious discussions for him. Anyways, we'll never know for sure if this team had stayed together (with Pudge and D-Lee) if the fans would have stayed with them the whole season. We'll never truly know for sure.
June 12, 200620 yr Signing Cabrera and Willis aren't going to convince those in charge of such things as committing funds to a new stadium to do so. And if the history of the Marlins, expressingly confirmed during 2004-5, tells us anything, it's that the fan base isn't going to go to bat for a revenue-producing ballpark any more than they have in other years. Ask yourselves, how much time did you really give any thought to the Marlins' stadium while they were winning? We all want security. We all want success. But being without so much for so long has caused us to be content with as little as possible. For example, many in South Florida remember a time when there was no MLB. This is a large reason why I believe the Marlins have focused on threats of relocation. There's a good many who couldn't give a damn about anything except having a 81-win or playing in South Florida. You have to let them know not what can be capable (a large revenue club based near downtown lead by Cabrera and Willis), but also, if not especially, what might be without. Remember even our kvetching about Loria this or Samson that or San Antonio/Portland/Las Vegas slamming has a positive effect on the stadium front. It keeps the issue open and heard. It lets our politicians, the Marlins, MLB and the media that the issue is important.
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