July 21, 200620 yr Ouch In late July of 2002 the Blue Jays were nearing the end of the line with outfielder Jose Cruz Jr. Cruz owned a .227 batting average at the break with 13 homers and 45 RBIs. Finally, they found someone with interest in Cruz. The New York Mets said they would take Cruz, offering a minor-leaguer playing his first full season at class-A. Jays general manager J.P. Ricciardi decided against taking the minor-leaguer for Cruz. The Jays also refused the Seattle Mariners' offer of prospect Rafael Soriano for Cruz, after the Mariners refused to move reliever Clint Nageotte. The Jays held on to Cruz, who finished the 2002 season with a .245 average, 18 homers and 70 RBIs. After the season the Jays decided not to tender Cruz a contract and he signed as a free agent with the San Francisco Giants. That class-A kid? Well, it's tough evaluating 19-year-olds as the kid was at the time. That season at class-A Capital City the kid hit .266 with 11 homers and 93 RBIs. He had 76 walks, 114 strikeouts. The kid? You may have seen him at Tuesday's all-star game -- and on a hundred or so highlight clips -- as he grew up to be all-star third baseman David Wright. Wright's 2006 stats: A .315 average, 20 homers and 75 RBIs. As Paul Harvey would say, now you know the rest of the story.
July 21, 200620 yr That hurts, but just about every team has made a mistake like that with prospects. It's a long list.
July 21, 200620 yr i'd say something, but... Francisco Liriano, Joe Nathan, and Boof Bonser for AJ Pierzynski the worst one was back in 2000...the Cardinals traded Heathcliff Slocumb to the Padres for Carlos Hernandez and Nate Tebbs...as a throw in, the Padres were offered a choice of one of two minor leaguers, and they chose Ben Johnson...the other choice was Albert Pujols
July 21, 200620 yr i'd say something, but... Francisco Liriano, Joe Nathan, and Boof Bonser for AJ Pierzynski the worst one was back in 2000...the Cardinals traded Heathcliff Slocumb to the Padres for Carlos Hernandez and Nate Tebbs...as a throw in, the Padres were offered a choice of one of two minor leaguers, and they chose Ben Johnson...the other choice was Albert Pujols Ouch!
July 21, 200620 yr More proof that Moneyball philosophy, while having its positives, can still make sh*t moves.
July 21, 200620 yr i'd say something, but... Francisco Liriano, Joe Nathan, and Boof Bonser for AJ Pierzynski the worst one was back in 2000...the Cardinals traded Heathcliff Slocumb to the Padres for Carlos Hernandez and Nate Tebbs...as a throw in, the Padres were offered a choice of one of two minor leaguers, and they chose Ben Johnson...the other choice was Albert Pujols Ouch! Thats baseball for you
July 21, 200620 yr Troy Glaus isn't doing too bad for them. no, but i'm sure they'd much rather have david wright
July 21, 200620 yr Marlins drafted a guy named Johan Santana in the Rule V draft a few years ago. :confused
July 21, 200620 yr i'd say something, but... Francisco Liriano, Joe Nathan, and Boof Bonser for AJ Pierzynski the worst one was back in 2000...the Cardinals traded Heathcliff Slocumb to the Padres for Carlos Hernandez and Nate Tebbs...as a throw in, the Padres were offered a choice of one of two minor leaguers, and they chose Ben Johnson...the other choice was Albert Pujols Ouch! :banghead
July 21, 200620 yr Marlins drafted a guy named Johan Santana in the Rule V draft a few years ago. :confused ya but we had an agreement with the twins to draft him and then to trade him to them in a package deal. i wonder who we got from the twins......
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