August 8, 200619 yr well according to 93 i have to go to more than that # of games to start a thread TheDon is quoted for saying that. :cool
August 8, 200619 yr well according to 93 i have to go to more than that # of games to start a thread We understand but why do we have to have these threads every week. Its like someone keeps telling me I have blonde hair and green eyes. WTF I know I do so why keep on telling me.. same goes with the Marlins. We all know the attendance is terrible but there is really nothing we can do about it. Just go to as many games as possible and hope that other people get hooked.
August 8, 200619 yr ok u wanna be like that ok no problem.... i went to giants, nationals, cardinals, mets twice, red sox, and braves twice You went to 8 games this year and its August 8th. :plain Im not dissing the # of games you have personally gone to. But you havent gone to enough games to start a thread like this.
August 8, 200619 yr Stop sipping Tommy Hutton's Kool-Aid. Like any business it is their responsability to give customers a reason to come out to the ballpark. It is not for them to say winning alone should do that. We had John Henry tell fans Dolphins Stadium served up a horrible baseball experience. Loria and Samson have told us that if we give them hundreds of millions of dollars we can have a baseball experience like other cities. So even they say its not only about winning. So obviously the experience inside the ballpark is less than acceptable even though the product on the field is competitive. We can go through the Marlins timeline. Different owners, different promises, different payroll corrections, and different threats to contract or move the team. Last I saw, attendance was growing year after year until Loria decided to tear apart the team. It does not matter how good or bad the team is, it matters that fans were turned off by what the owner of this business did. Tommy Hutton is not obligated to eat at the Jupiter Ale House and no one talks down to him on a daily basis if their customer traffic is slowing down. I love Hutton but he really needs to calm down and stick to the game. It is not for him to tell anyone how to spend their hard-earned money. In South Florida where FU money flows freely and major events sell as well as anywhere else in the country....when you cannot draw a crowd maybe its time for the business owner to accept fault and admit the complete product they are providing is not what the consumer wants. Good baseball should be enough to get the real baseball fan to the ballpark. Unfortunately, there aren't enough of those in South Florida evidently. All things considered with the ballpark, the casual fan isn't too enticed to go. The casual fan is what fills stadiums. 13,000 ppl in the park if all 10,000 die hard marlins fans go every night, thats still horrible attendance. I've been to shea several times and more than half the people around you dont know jack about baseball, its an even greater # at yankee stadium. Hialeah isnt that far depending what part of borward u live in That's my point. All the things that suck about Dolphins Stadium make it not worth a game for the casual fan.
August 8, 200619 yr Author my bad 93 well wat i wanted to point out was that we are not only way behind the league but way behind the royals
August 8, 200619 yr well according to 93 i have to go to more than that # of games to start a thread We understand but why do we have to have these threads every week. Its like someone keeps telling me I have blonde hair and green eyes. WTF I know I do so why keep on telling me.. same goes with the Marlins. We all know the attendance is terrible but there is really nothing we can do about it. Just go to as many games as possible and hope that other people get hooked. Exactly! It's like telling someone over and over again that they are ugly. Not to say you are, but you know what I mean. :lol
August 8, 200619 yr Just to clarify a little........ I never said going to 5, 8, 12 or 15 games is not going to enough games. My point was that the person that started this thread has been to 8 games this year. If you've only been to 8 games then you need to zip it because EVERYONE here knows the attendance sucks, and EVERYONE has already discussed it 900 times. Im not saying Im Mr.Positivity, but you are notorious for negative threads btnh.
August 8, 200619 yr Author wow i was not trying to be negative i just thought i would post some stats. take them for wat they are and not that they are being meant as negativity
August 8, 200619 yr We should pin a thread that says "All Attendance vents go here" That would be good
August 8, 200619 yr To put this in perspective, my brother owns full football season tickets for a team that is over 250 miles away and 5 hours driving or 4.5 on the train. He maybe goes to 4 games a year out of 25/30. At a cost of over ?440 or about $750.
August 8, 200619 yr well according to 93 i have to go to more than that # of games to start a thread We understand but why do we have to have these threads every week. Its like someone keeps telling me I have blonde hair and green eyes. WTF I know I do so why keep on telling me.. same goes with the Marlins. We all know the attendance is terrible but there is really nothing we can do about it. Just go to as many games as possible and hope that other people get hooked. Nice use of promotion, there! :thumbup
August 9, 200619 yr We can go through the Marlins timeline. Different owners, different promises, different payroll corrections, and different threats to contract or move the team. Last I saw, attendance was growing year after year until Loria decided to tear apart the team. It does not matter how good or bad the team is, it matters that fans were turned off by what the owner of this business did. Tommy Hutton is not obligated to eat at the Jupiter Ale House and no one talks down to him on a daily basis if their customer traffic is slowing down. I love Hutton but he really needs to calm down and stick to the game. It is not for him to tell anyone how to spend their hard-earned money. In South Florida where FU money flows freely and major events sell as well as anywhere else in the country....when you cannot draw a crowd maybe its time for the business owner to accept fault and admit the complete product they are providing is not what the consumer wants. From 2004 to 2005 the average attendance jumped a whopping 781 people. Average in "04 was 22,091. In '05 it was 22,872. Both years right near the bottom of the list in MLB. This was a team fresh off a WS Championship, was in it til the last week of the regular season for the WC spot in '04 (our 3rd winning season), and had all the pieces in place to make a legitimate shot at going back to the play offs again in '05 (our 4th winning season). And you say ownership was not giving the fans what they wanted??? What exactly did they want?? The trophy mailed to them in April along with winning lottery numbers??? We couldn't get state support for the final push for a new stadium. So we are still stuck at Joe Robbie, a place with such a bad deal that no one other than Wayne Huizenga can make money. Why couldn't we?? Because state officials looked at the attendance records and how they compared to other places and rightfully came to the conclusion that South Florida could care in the least about MLB being here. Loria got tired of losing money so payroll was slashed so he could make some money in a bad situation. Imagine that. The jerk wanted his company to actually show profit. What a unique thing for any company to do. Maybe you should take your ideas to your company CEO/Board of Directors/Stock Holders meetings and explain to them that they need to spend far more money than they make so the general public will have a much better time at their expense. Bet that will go over good. Then you can bash them for not being as wise as you are as you are driving all the way to the unemployment line. That sure will show them.
August 10, 200619 yr ok u wanna be like that ok no problem.... i went to giants, nationals, cardinals, mets twice, red sox, and braves twice You went to 8 games this year and its August 8th. :plain Im not dissing the # of games you have personally gone to. But you havent gone to enough games to start a thread like this. I've been to seven games in Miami, saw the season opening series in Houston, caught three in San Diego, I'm leaving for Arizona friday afternoon, and I'll be in LA for that series. Fans who want to be there will be there, but casual fans only come out to see the major attractions. With a $15mil. payroll, there aren't enough household names on the field to motivate people to sit in that sauna of a stadium.
August 10, 200619 yr I've been to seven games in Miami, saw the season opening series in Houston, caught three in San Diego, I'm leaving for Arizona friday afternoon, and I'll be in LA for that series. Fans who want to be there will be there, but casual fans only come out to see the major attractions. With a $15mil. payroll, there aren't enough household names on the field to motivate people to sit in that sauna of a stadium. That very well may be. For summer time. But in April and early May the weather is perfect for baseball. We don't trade in our Sunday tickets for the 200 level until about the middle of May. When we get the new pond I predict attendance will jump for the first couple years. But after the novelty wears off it will drop down to about 25K. If that. You see the reasons right here in this thread. People that live in Broward and Dade Counties are here saying it is too far to drive to Joe Robbie. I don't think there is an answer for the attendance problem. But a new home will give the team the $$$ it needs to keep a winner on the field. Those of us that actually go to the games will reap the benefits of that and be laughing at the others. Heck, I'm laughing right now.
August 10, 200619 yr Stop sipping Tommy Hutton's Kool-Aid. Like any business it is their responsability to give customers a reason to come out to the ballpark. It is not for them to say winning alone should do that. We had John Henry tell fans Dolphins Stadium served up a horrible baseball experience. Loria and Samson have told us that if we give them hundreds of millions of dollars we can have a baseball experience like other cities. So even they say its not only about winning. So obviously the experience inside the ballpark is less than acceptable even though the product on the field is competitive. We can go through the Marlins timeline. Different owners, different promises, different payroll corrections, and different threats to contract or move the team. Last I saw, attendance was growing year after year until Loria decided to tear apart the team. It does not matter how good or bad the team is, it matters that fans were turned off by what the owner of this business did. Tommy Hutton is not obligated to eat at the Jupiter Ale House and no one talks down to him on a daily basis if their customer traffic is slowing down. I love Hutton but he really needs to calm down and stick to the game. It is not for him to tell anyone how to spend their hard-earned money. In South Florida where FU money flows freely and major events sell as well as anywhere else in the country....when you cannot draw a crowd maybe its time for the business owner to accept fault and admit the complete product they are providing is not what the consumer wants. Good baseball should be enough to get the real baseball fan to the ballpark. Unfortunately, there aren't enough of those in South Florida evidently. All things considered with the ballpark, the casual fan isn't too enticed to go. The casual fan is what fills stadiums. 13,000 ppl in the park if all 10,000 die hard marlins fans go every night, thats still horrible attendance. I've been to shea several times and more than half the people around you dont know jack about baseball, its an even greater # at yankee stadium. Hialeah isnt that far depending what part of borward u live in That's my point. All the things that suck about Dolphins Stadium make it not worth a game for the casual fan. hey i gots an Idea er why not just be cyberfans and sit online and whine and complain that'll show em all
August 10, 200619 yr Stop sipping Tommy Hutton's Kool-Aid. Like any business it is their responsability to give customers a reason to come out to the ballpark. It is not for them to say winning alone should do that. We had John Henry tell fans Dolphins Stadium served up a horrible baseball experience. Loria and Samson have told us that if we give them hundreds of millions of dollars we can have a baseball experience like other cities. So even they say its not only about winning. So obviously the experience inside the ballpark is less than acceptable even though the product on the field is competitive. We can go through the Marlins timeline. Different owners, different promises, different payroll corrections, and different threats to contract or move the team. Last I saw, attendance was growing year after year until Loria decided to tear apart the team. It does not matter how good or bad the team is, it matters that fans were turned off by what the owner of this business did. Tommy Hutton is not obligated to eat at the Jupiter Ale House and no one talks down to him on a daily basis if their customer traffic is slowing down. I love Hutton but he really needs to calm down and stick to the game. It is not for him to tell anyone how to spend their hard-earned money. In South Florida where FU money flows freely and major events sell as well as anywhere else in the country....when you cannot draw a crowd maybe its time for the business owner to accept fault and admit the complete product they are providing is not what the consumer wants. Good baseball should be enough to get the real baseball fan to the ballpark. Unfortunately, there aren't enough of those in South Florida evidently. All things considered with the ballpark, the casual fan isn't too enticed to go. The casual fan is what fills stadiums. 13,000 ppl in the park if all 10,000 die hard marlins fans go every night, thats still horrible attendance. I've been to shea several times and more than half the people around you dont know jack about baseball, its an even greater # at yankee stadium. Hialeah isnt that far depending what part of borward u live in That's my point. All the things that suck about Dolphins Stadium make it not worth a game for the casual fan. hey i gots an Idea er why not just be cyberfans and sit online and whine and complain that'll show em all Who are you? Whose whining and complaing? Certainly not the last two posters you quoted who are merely stating the facts for someone who asked a question. Again this is an internet discussion board, people post, others discuss and argue. Oh and the marlins are never going to move to portland
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