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Terror plot names released: Now are we ready to start profiling at air

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This post is too long for me to read the whole thing so if this has already been mentioned forgive me. Timothy McVeigh was actually assisted by an Iraqi national back during the OK bombing. Not only that but nichols had open contact with ramzi yousef before the bombing in 95. If anyone is interested in more info, some of the reports can be acquired through FOIA

Why don't we just assume that anyone can be a terrorist and search everyone in the best capacity we can? (Air puff machines, x-ray machines, someone going through bags, etc.). It's going to take a lot of time and a heck of a lot of money, but I would feel a lot safer if I knew everyone (regardless of race, sex, age, etc.) was being searched as throughly as possible.

still waiting for a response? what? conservatives on the board unite in silence because they realize that profiling will solve nothing?

 

I'm liberal to moderate in social issues, and I think profiling at AIRPORTS would be ok. Doesn't mean a white bread won't committ a crime--but I think that giving male Muslims a closer look wouldn't be a devastating thing.

 

Why don't we just assume that anyone can be a terrorist and search everyone in the best capacity we can? (Air puff machines, x-ray machines, someone going through bags, etc.). It's going to take a lot of time and a heck of a lot of money, but I would feel a lot safer if I knew everyone (regardless of race, sex, age, etc.) was being searched as throughly as possible.

 

No. A 70 year old white man is not going to be a terrorist suspect. A pregnant, 30 year old hispanic woman will not be a suspect. It's impossible to search 'so' thoroughly all these people. Whether we like it or not, there is already some level of profiling--even if only at the judgement level of the security at the airports.

still waiting for a response? what? conservatives on the board unite in silence because they realize that profiling will solve nothing?

 

Dude, shut up already. Jesus. Like Passion said, Rudolph has nothing to do with profiling at airports. And all of his answers seem smart to you because most of your posts are on the topic of something irrelevent to the thread's topic or make no sense.

 

Stay on topic and make more sense. It helps. I understand liberalism (sometimes) but you take it to another level.

still waiting for a response? what? conservatives on the board unite in silence because they realize that profiling will solve nothing?

 

Dude, shut up already. Jesus. Like Passion said, Rudolph has nothing to do with profiling at airports. And all of his answers seem smart to you because most of your posts are on the topic of something irrelevent to the thread's topic or make no sense.

 

Stay on topic and make more sense. It helps. I understand liberalism (sometimes) but you take it to another level.

yes because tim mcveigh has alot to do with airports too...and he was in this discussion as well...and i post as to what the current topic of discussion is...just like most everyone else on this board...and jeez...if you read most of my posts in here...im for peace and equality and actually not handing over all my civil rights to a regime that is spying on its own people...oh yeah...and dont ever ever tell me to shut up again...ive been suspended for less and so should you

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still waiting for a response? what? conservatives on the board unite in silence because they realize that profiling will solve nothing?

 

Dude, shut up already. Jesus. Like Passion said, Rudolph has nothing to do with profiling at airports. And all of his answers seem smart to you because most of your posts are on the topic of something irrelevent to the thread's topic or make no sense.

 

Stay on topic and make more sense. It helps. I understand liberalism (sometimes) but you take it to another level.

yes because tim mcveigh has alot to do with airports too...and he was in this discussion as well...and i post as to what the current topic of discussion is...just like most everyone else on this board...and jeez...if you read most of my posts in here...im for peace and equality and actually not handing over all my civil rights to a regime that is spying on its own people...oh yeah...and dont ever ever tell me to shut up again...ive been suspended for less and so should you

:lol

 

Take a hint man.

Well, here's FOX News covering the story that Al-Qaeda may be recruiting non-Arabs:

 

WASHINGTON ? The FBI is cautioning local authorities the Al Qaeda terror network may be recruiting non-Arabs less likely to attract notice as they carry out attacks in the United States.

 

Al-Qaida especially wants operatives who have American citizenship or legal residency status, the FBI's counterterrorism division said in its weekly bulletin to 18,000 law enforcement agencies nationwide.

 

"Finding operatives with U.S. status would greatly facilitate Al Qaeda's ability to carry out an attack within the United States," said the bulletin, obtained Friday by The Associated Press.

 

The new warning comes amid a continuous stream of intelligence indicating that Al Qaeda is determined to strike the United States in the summer or fall. Officials have said the terror network blamed for the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks hopes to inflict mass casualties again and disrupt the political process in this presidential election year.

 

The FBI bulletin does not mention a possible time, place or method of attack. Security is expected to be especially tight at this summer's political conventions, which begin July 26 with the Democratic Party's gathering in Boston. The Republican convention is Aug. 30-Sept 2 in New York.

 

Using non-Arabs might make it easier for Al Qaeda to circumvent security measures in Europe and the United States, the bulletin said. Of special concern are people with ties to Islamic extremist groups in North Africa and parts of Asia outside the Middle East.

 

Still, the FBI said, almost all Al Qaeda operatives in the past have traveled at least once to South Asia, particularly Afghanistan and Pakistan, for "consultation and training."

 

Afghanistan was the site of Al Qaeda terror training camps before the U.S. invasion of that country in 2001 and al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden is believed to be hiding out in remote regions of Pakistan, where the terror network has many sympathizers.

 

Because of its hardline Muslim views, Al Qaeda favors using male operatives between the ages of 18 and 35 in its attacks, the FBI said. But women could also be recruited, especially from areas considered more liberal on the subject such as North and East Africa and the eastern Mediterranean, the FBI notice said.

 

Despite its warning about non-Middle Easterners, the bulletin said police and security personnel should not discount the possibility that Arabs could still be used in a U.S. attack, particularly if they are already in the United States.

 

This article was written two years ago in July of 04, so it's possible that Al Qaeda was one step ahead of us already.

 

I'm also not convinced that these people will be convicted, because the evidence is very poor at this time.

still waiting for a response? what? conservatives on the board unite in silence because they realize that profiling will solve nothing?

 

Dude, shut up already. Jesus. Like Passion said, Rudolph has nothing to do with profiling at airports. And all of his answers seem smart to you because most of your posts are on the topic of something irrelevent to the thread's topic or make no sense.

 

Stay on topic and make more sense. It helps. I understand liberalism (sometimes) but you take it to another level.

yes because tim mcveigh has alot to do with airports too...and he was in this discussion as well...and i post as to what the current topic of discussion is...just like most everyone else on this board...and jeez...if you read most of my posts in here...im for peace and equality and actually not handing over all my civil rights to a regime that is spying on its own people...oh yeah...and dont ever ever tell me to shut up again...ive been suspended for less and so should you

:lol

 

Take a hint man.

absolutely brilliant post...you should work for guiness

Al Qaeda recruiting non - arabs is not exactly news, I don't understand why Fox is picking up on it. All you need to do is look at Indonesia and Qaeda's past incursions there.

I think if we were to profile Muslims we'd have to profile blacks as well; there are many black Muslims in Northern and Eastern Africa.

 

I believe profiling Muslims is not only ignorant but ineffective. Most Muslims in America are of African descent (42%) while about 12% were Arab/Middle Eastern (this is a census figure from 1990).

 

It is estimated that nearly 12 million Muslims are in the United States. Out of these, how many are terrorists?

99 percent (this is my best guess) of terrorists have a stereotypical appearance/image. That's enough to make you consider looking out for them.

99 percent (this is my best guess) of terrorists have a stereotypical appearance/image. That's enough to make you consider looking out for them.

 

thats like saying 99% of jews are rich and are either lawyers or doctors...in other words...very racist

99 percent (this is my best guess) of terrorists have a stereotypical appearance/image. That's enough to make you consider looking out for them.

 

thats like saying 99% of jews are rich and are either lawyers or doctors...in other words...very racist

That makes no sense. I didn't say 99 percent of Muslims are terrorists. I said 99 percent of terrorists are Muslims (true).

99 percent (this is my best guess) of terrorists have a stereotypical appearance/image. That's enough to make you consider looking out for them.

 

thats like saying 99% of jews are rich and are either lawyers or doctors...in other words...very racist

That makes no sense. I didn't say 99 percent of Muslims are terrorists. I said 99 percent of terrorists are Muslims (true).

and then i go back to the mcveigh and rudolph argument...and the unabomber and so on and so forth...i do realize that it is conveinent for someone of the jewish faith to believe that 99% of terrorists are muslim, but quite simply...it isnt true

99 percent (this is my best guess) of terrorists have a stereotypical appearance/image. That's enough to make you consider looking out for them.

 

thats like saying 99% of jews are rich and are either lawyers or doctors...in other words...very racist

That makes no sense. I didn't say 99 percent of Muslims are terrorists. I said 99 percent of terrorists are Muslims (true).

and then i go back to the mcveigh and rudolph argument...and the unabomber and so on and so forth...i do realize that it is conveinent for someone of the jewish faith to believe that 99% of terrorists are muslim, but quite simply...it isnt true

Go back in this thread. I think it was Mabdul actually that presented the (estimate) numbers. I think 3 caucasian terrorists compared with several thousand Muslim. I'm not wasting my time finding information for you that is (and has been) readily available and repeatedly examined.

 

If it's not 99, it's something like 98.___

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99 percent (this is my best guess) of terrorists have a stereotypical appearance/image. That's enough to make you consider looking out for them.

 

thats like saying 99% of jews are rich and are either lawyers or doctors...in other words...very racist

That makes no sense. I didn't say 99 percent of Muslims are terrorists. I said 99 percent of terrorists are Muslims (true).

and then i go back to the mcveigh and rudolph argument...and the unabomber and so on and so forth...i do realize that it is conveinent for someone of the jewish faith to believe that 99% of terrorists are muslim, but quite simply...it isnt true

A handfull of non-muslims compared to THOUSANDS of muslims = more than 99%.

 

Just give it a rest already...

99 percent (this is my best guess) of terrorists have a stereotypical appearance/image. That's enough to make you consider looking out for them.

 

thats like saying 99% of jews are rich and are either lawyers or doctors...in other words...very racist

That makes no sense. I didn't say 99 percent of Muslims are terrorists. I said 99 percent of terrorists are Muslims (true).

and then i go back to the mcveigh and rudolph argument...and the unabomber and so on and so forth...i do realize that it is conveinent for someone of the jewish faith to believe that 99% of terrorists are muslim, but quite simply...it isnt true

Go back in this thread. I think it was Mabdul actually that presented the (estimate) numbers. I think 3 caucasian terrorists compared with several thousand Muslim. I'm not wasting my time finding information for you that is (and has been) readily available and repeatedly examined.

 

If it's not 99, it's something like 98.___

i would support strip searching every single person on an airline before i would support the profiling of one muslim...sorry...i believe in civil rights for all...not just white people, or asians, or or pregnant women while we exclude one group of people...i mean sh*t...why dont we just throw all the muslims in this country the hell out, i mean that would make everyone feel safer right? or maybe we should put them in concentration camps...personally...i think muslims are the scum of the earth, they should all get a bullet in the back of the head...do you see the sarcasm...look, people are people are people...first our country discriminates against blacks because they are clearly an inferior people, then in WW II against pretty much all asians, even if they had nothing to do with Japan, now its the muslims we fear...personally...i choose to live my life without fear from anyone because i firmly believe in humanity, not just white people or black people or whoever...and if this country ever wants to do what is right, it will not profile, not because its the correct thing to do, but because its the fair thing to do...and equality is what makes this country great, not just rich white people

 

 

 

 

 

99 percent (this is my best guess) of terrorists have a stereotypical appearance/image. That's enough to make you consider looking out for them.

 

thats like saying 99% of jews are rich and are either lawyers or doctors...in other words...very racist

That makes no sense. I didn't say 99 percent of Muslims are terrorists. I said 99 percent of terrorists are Muslims (true).

and then i go back to the mcveigh and rudolph argument...and the unabomber and so on and so forth...i do realize that it is conveinent for someone of the jewish faith to believe that 99% of terrorists are muslim, but quite simply...it isnt true

A handfull of non-muslims compared to THOUSANDS of muslims = more than 99%.

 

Just give it a rest already...

ahhh...the voice of the unreasonable...howdy there...how are ya? still advocating the death of every towel head i see :banghead :banghead :banghead

99 percent (this is my best guess) of terrorists have a stereotypical appearance/image. That's enough to make you consider looking out for them.

 

thats like saying 99% of jews are rich and are either lawyers or doctors...in other words...very racist

That makes no sense. I didn't say 99 percent of Muslims are terrorists. I said 99 percent of terrorists are Muslims (true).

and then i go back to the mcveigh and rudolph argument...and the unabomber and so on and so forth...i do realize that it is conveinent for someone of the jewish faith to believe that 99% of terrorists are muslim, but quite simply...it isnt true

Go back in this thread. I think it was Mabdul actually that presented the (estimate) numbers. I think 3 caucasian terrorists compared with several thousand Muslim. I'm not wasting my time finding information for you that is (and has been) readily available and repeatedly examined.

 

If it's not 99, it's something like 98.___

i would support strip searching every single person on an airline before i would support the profiling of one muslim...sorry...i believe in civil rights for all...not just white people, or asians, or or pregnant women while we exclude one group of people...i mean sh*t...why dont we just throw all the muslims in this country the hell out, i mean that would make everyone feel safer right? or maybe we should put them in concentration camps...personally...i think muslims are the scum of the earth, they should all get a bullet in the back of the head...do you see the sarcasm...look, people are people are people...first our country discriminates against blacks because they are clearly an inferior people, then in WW II against pretty much all asians, even if they had nothing to do with Japan, now its the muslims we fear...personally...i choose to live my life without fear from anyone because i firmly believe in humanity, not just white people or black people or whoever...and if this country ever wants to do what is right, it will not profile, not because its the correct thing to do, but because its the fair thing to do...and equality is what makes this country great, not just rich white people

My father is a doctor

My mother is a lawyer

And I'm going to make lots of money.

 

I'm Jewish, and it's convenient.

99 percent (this is my best guess) of terrorists have a stereotypical appearance/image. That's enough to make you consider looking out for them.

 

thats like saying 99% of jews are rich and are either lawyers or doctors...in other words...very racist

That makes no sense. I didn't say 99 percent of Muslims are terrorists. I said 99 percent of terrorists are Muslims (true).

and then i go back to the mcveigh and rudolph argument...and the unabomber and so on and so forth...i do realize that it is conveinent for someone of the jewish faith to believe that 99% of terrorists are muslim, but quite simply...it isnt true

Go back in this thread. I think it was Mabdul actually that presented the (estimate) numbers. I think 3 caucasian terrorists compared with several thousand Muslim. I'm not wasting my time finding information for you that is (and has been) readily available and repeatedly examined.

 

If it's not 99, it's something like 98.___

i would support strip searching every single person on an airline before i would support the profiling of one muslim...sorry...i believe in civil rights for all...not just white people, or asians, or or pregnant women while we exclude one group of people...i mean sh*t...why dont we just throw all the muslims in this country the hell out, i mean that would make everyone feel safer right? or maybe we should put them in concentration camps...personally...i think muslims are the scum of the earth, they should all get a bullet in the back of the head...do you see the sarcasm...look, people are people are people...first our country discriminates against blacks because they are clearly an inferior people, then in WW II against pretty much all asians, even if they had nothing to do with Japan, now its the muslims we fear...personally...i choose to live my life without fear from anyone because i firmly believe in humanity, not just white people or black people or whoever...and if this country ever wants to do what is right, it will not profile, not because its the correct thing to do, but because its the fair thing to do...and equality is what makes this country great, not just rich white people

My father is a doctor

My mother is a lawyer

And I'm going to make lots of money.

 

I'm Jewish, and it's convenient. :lol :lol :lol

99 percent (this is my best guess) of terrorists have a stereotypical appearance/image. That's enough to make you consider looking out for them.

 

thats like saying 99% of jews are rich and are either lawyers or doctors...in other words...very racist

That makes no sense. I didn't say 99 percent of Muslims are terrorists. I said 99 percent of terrorists are Muslims (true).

and then i go back to the mcveigh and rudolph argument...and the unabomber and so on and so forth...i do realize that it is conveinent for someone of the jewish faith to believe that 99% of terrorists are muslim, but quite simply...it isnt true

Go back in this thread. I think it was Mabdul actually that presented the (estimate) numbers. I think 3 caucasian terrorists compared with several thousand Muslim. I'm not wasting my time finding information for you that is (and has been) readily available and repeatedly examined.

 

If it's not 99, it's something like 98.___

i would support strip searching every single person on an airline before i would support the profiling of one muslim...sorry...i believe in civil rights for all...not just white people, or asians, or or pregnant women while we exclude one group of people...i mean sh*t...why dont we just throw all the muslims in this country the hell out, i mean that would make everyone feel safer right? or maybe we should put them in concentration camps...personally...i think muslims are the scum of the earth, they should all get a bullet in the back of the head...do you see the sarcasm...look, people are people are people...first our country discriminates against blacks because they are clearly an inferior people, then in WW II against pretty much all asians, even if they had nothing to do with Japan, now its the muslims we fear...personally...i choose to live my life without fear from anyone because i firmly believe in humanity, not just white people or black people or whoever...and if this country ever wants to do what is right, it will not profile, not because its the correct thing to do, but because its the fair thing to do...and equality is what makes this country great, not just rich white people

My father is a doctor

My mother is a lawyer

And I'm going to make lots of money.

 

I'm Jewish, and it's convenient.

I'm Jewish and my mom's a nurse. :D

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99 percent (this is my best guess) of terrorists have a stereotypical appearance/image. That's enough to make you consider looking out for them.

 

thats like saying 99% of jews are rich and are either lawyers or doctors...in other words...very racist

That makes no sense. I didn't say 99 percent of Muslims are terrorists. I said 99 percent of terrorists are Muslims (true).

and then i go back to the mcveigh and rudolph argument...and the unabomber and so on and so forth...i do realize that it is conveinent for someone of the jewish faith to believe that 99% of terrorists are muslim, but quite simply...it isnt true

Go back in this thread. I think it was Mabdul actually that presented the (estimate) numbers. I think 3 caucasian terrorists compared with several thousand Muslim. I'm not wasting my time finding information for you that is (and has been) readily available and repeatedly examined.

 

If it's not 99, it's something like 98.___

i would support strip searching every single person on an airline before i would support the profiling of one muslim...sorry...i believe in civil rights for all...not just white people, or asians, or or pregnant women while we exclude one group of people...i mean sh*t...why dont we just throw all the muslims in this country the hell out, i mean that would make everyone feel safer right? or maybe we should put them in concentration camps...personally...i think muslims are the scum of the earth, they should all get a bullet in the back of the head...do you see the sarcasm...look, people are people are people...first our country discriminates against blacks because they are clearly an inferior people, then in WW II against pretty much all asians, even if they had nothing to do with Japan, now its the muslims we fear...personally...i choose to live my life without fear from anyone because i firmly believe in humanity, not just white people or black people or whoever...and if this country ever wants to do what is right, it will not profile, not because its the correct thing to do, but because its the fair thing to do...and equality is what makes this country great, not just rich white people

My father is a doctor

My mother is a lawyer

And I'm going to make lots of money.

 

I'm Jewish, and it's convenient.

I'm Jewish and my mom's a nurse. :D

Same here.

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Nobody cares.

 

Forgive me, I did not realize your username has been changed to "everyone."

 

Quit being a jackass.

Nobody cares.

 

Forgive me, I did not realize your username has been changed to "everyone."

 

Quit being a jackass.

 

 

Nah, I'm alright.

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