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But Wagner is one of hte few closers worth the money he gets paid.

 

 

And dont be too terribly shocked if that cheapskate Drayton McClane does keep Wagner.

 

 

He is too much a part of that organization. Between him, Biggio and Bagwell....the fans might revolt if any of them play in a different uniform.

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But Wagner is one of hte few closers worth the money he gets paid.

 

 

And dont be too terribly shocked if that cheapskate Drayton McClane does keep Wagner.

 

 

He is too much a part of that organization. Between him, Biggio and Bagwell....the fans might revolt if any of them play in a different uniform.

 

Like Drayton actually cares about the fans.

 

No closer is worth $9 million, not even Mariano Rivera circa 1999. The only reason Drayton is going to keep Wagner is because anybody who takes will make the Astros eat half his salary, which defeats the whole purpose of trading him. Richard Hidalgo has a better chance of getting traded, now that he's gotten back to his 2000 form.

 

Brad Ausmus is definitely gone, unless he takes a $4 million pay cut. The same for Vizcaino unless he takes a $1.5 million pay cut. They've wasted enough money on Ausmus as it is. They can't be stupid enough to continue to give him $5 million/year. Vizcaino is robbing them at $2 million/year, and between Adam Everett and Geoff Blum, the SS position is covered.

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Ausmus is excellent behind the plate.

 

 

But he sucks with the stick. 5 million is definitely too much for a catcher who cant hit.

 

 

Vizcaino is valuable, but not at 2 million. I don't see him getting more than a million a year anywhere in baseball, and thats generous.

 

Hidalgo will be traded this offseason and Jason Lane will take the right field job next year.

 

As far as Wagner being worth 9 million...perhaps not, but at the time the contract was signed, there were big money deals being thrown out there.

 

Wagner is the third best closer in baseball, behind only Gagne and Smoltz. He deserves to be paid as an elite closer, whatever that is worth these days.

 

Drayton is a horrible owner, I agree. But if he knows whats best for his investment he will hold onto Wagner. Period.

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Wagner is the third best closer in baseball, behind only Gagne and Smoltz.? He deserves to be paid as an elite closer, whatever that is worth these days.

 

Wagner had a better year this year, but I'd take Dotel over Wagner any day. What's funny about that statement is that the Astros could've had Gagne (and probably Thurston, too) from the Dodgers for Wagner when they foolishly gave him all that money.

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There is something about Wagner I really love.

 

 

Perhaps its because he has been there so long. I feel more comfortable with Wagner on the mound than Dotel....granted Dotel gets the job done just as much as Wags.

 

 

Dotel will close someday soon. I just don't know what organization he closes for.

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Wagner is worth whatever an elite closer is worth....

 

 

I am not sure what the market for that is right now though?

 

 

2 years ago I would of said 9 million would be worth an elite closer...but with the decrease in salaries back to something much more reasonable...

 

i would almost venture to say 5-6 million if that.

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