BIG Z Posted September 30, 2003 Share Posted September 30, 2003 I heard today in school that billy wagner is a free-agent now anybody kno if this is true,who do you predict will sign him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Juanky Posted September 30, 2003 Share Posted September 30, 2003 Yankees. Rivera is about done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG Z Posted September 30, 2003 Author Share Posted September 30, 2003 I don't like the yankees,did anyone hear say this?if not i heard this:once steinbrenner's sons take over the yankees franchise will be like the 1998 marlins,cuz they are greedy people there is no way they will waste their money so the yankees might be done soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83Gator Posted September 30, 2003 Share Posted September 30, 2003 Wagner's not a free agent. He has one more year left on his contract for $9 million. He thinks he's going to be traded though. http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-a...ov=ap&type=lgns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DurableTear Posted September 30, 2003 Share Posted September 30, 2003 I don't like the yankees,did anyone hear say this?if not i heard this:once steinbrenner's sons take over the yankees franchise will be like the 1998 marlins,cuz they are greedy people there is no way they will waste their money so the yankees might be done soon. I seriously doubt that would happen Willis#1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre4prez Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 once steinbrenner's sons take over the yankees franchise will be like the 1998 marlins,cuz they are greedy people there is no way they will waste their money so the yankees might be done soon. I just choked on my sandwhich. Are we talking about the same Steinbrenners? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJBurnett34 Posted October 3, 2003 Share Posted October 3, 2003 Yea Billy said he had a feeling he was gonna leave. With the Stros having Dotel who is cheaper and almost the same type of pitcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTrizzle Posted October 7, 2003 Share Posted October 7, 2003 Its about time for the Yankees to suck hardcore b-lls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Fry Posted October 7, 2003 Share Posted October 7, 2003 I heard today in school that billy wagner is a free-agent now anybody kno if this is true,who do you predict will sign him. Wagner still has a year left on his contract. The Astros want to trade him, 'cos they now realize they made a mistake giving him $9 million/year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Texan Posted October 7, 2003 Share Posted October 7, 2003 But Wagner is one of hte few closers worth the money he gets paid.  And dont be too terribly shocked if that cheapskate Drayton McClane does keep Wagner.   He is too much a part of that organization. Between him, Biggio and Bagwell....the fans might revolt if any of them play in a different uniform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Fry Posted October 8, 2003 Share Posted October 8, 2003 But Wagner is one of hte few closers worth the money he gets paid.  And dont be too terribly shocked if that cheapskate Drayton McClane does keep Wagner.   He is too much a part of that organization. Between him, Biggio and Bagwell....the fans might revolt if any of them play in a different uniform. Like Drayton actually cares about the fans.  No closer is worth $9 million, not even Mariano Rivera circa 1999. The only reason Drayton is going to keep Wagner is because anybody who takes will make the Astros eat half his salary, which defeats the whole purpose of trading him. Richard Hidalgo has a better chance of getting traded, now that he's gotten back to his 2000 form. Brad Ausmus is definitely gone, unless he takes a $4 million pay cut. The same for Vizcaino unless he takes a $1.5 million pay cut. They've wasted enough money on Ausmus as it is. They can't be stupid enough to continue to give him $5 million/year. Vizcaino is robbing them at $2 million/year, and between Adam Everett and Geoff Blum, the SS position is covered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Texan Posted October 8, 2003 Share Posted October 8, 2003 Ausmus is excellent behind the plate.  But he sucks with the stick. 5 million is definitely too much for a catcher who cant hit.  Vizcaino is valuable, but not at 2 million. I don't see him getting more than a million a year anywhere in baseball, and thats generous. Hidalgo will be traded this offseason and Jason Lane will take the right field job next year. As far as Wagner being worth 9 million...perhaps not, but at the time the contract was signed, there were big money deals being thrown out there. Wagner is the third best closer in baseball, behind only Gagne and Smoltz. He deserves to be paid as an elite closer, whatever that is worth these days. Drayton is a horrible owner, I agree. But if he knows whats best for his investment he will hold onto Wagner. Period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Fry Posted October 8, 2003 Share Posted October 8, 2003 Wagner is the third best closer in baseball, behind only Gagne and Smoltz.? He deserves to be paid as an elite closer, whatever that is worth these days. Wagner had a better year this year, but I'd take Dotel over Wagner any day. What's funny about that statement is that the Astros could've had Gagne (and probably Thurston, too) from the Dodgers for Wagner when they foolishly gave him all that money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Texan Posted October 8, 2003 Share Posted October 8, 2003 There is something about Wagner I really love.  Perhaps its because he has been there so long. I feel more comfortable with Wagner on the mound than Dotel....granted Dotel gets the job done just as much as Wags.  Dotel will close someday soon. I just don't know what organization he closes for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG Z Posted October 9, 2003 Author Share Posted October 9, 2003 How much is wagner worth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Texan Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 Wagner is worth whatever an elite closer is worth....  I am not sure what the market for that is right now though?  2 years ago I would of said 9 million would be worth an elite closer...but with the decrease in salaries back to something much more reasonable... i would almost venture to say 5-6 million if that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJC Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 to ME Wagner is a top 5 closer in baseball and at his age he definately has a minimum of 5 years left in his career... but all good things cost $$$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Texan Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 Wagner will finish his career as the best left handed closer in baseball history.  He may finish his career as one of the top 5 closers in baseball history.  We will see where his future takes him, but just kno that he will be dominant whereever it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJC Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 the bad news for us is the main team i can think of that can use a closer next year is... the Phillies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DurableTear Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 the bad news for us is the main team i can think of that can use a closer next year is... the Phillies I thought the Phils were going to dump salary this off-season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJC Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 it wouldnt make alot of sense to drop salary BEFORE they even get to the new stadium... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted October 11, 2003 Share Posted October 11, 2003 it wouldnt make alot of sense to drop salary BEFORE they even get to the new stadium... The pretty much spent their "stadium money" last off-season. Thome, Millwood, Burrell, ect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaq-Man Posted October 12, 2003 Share Posted October 12, 2003 the phillies are gunning for urbina for sure. this was supposed to be their postseason year, so i doubt theyre gonna dump it all to rebuild without even touching the postseason. we're obviously losing urbina after this season, but it'd suck to lose a guy like him to a division rival Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramp Posted October 12, 2003 Share Posted October 12, 2003 the Phils will gun for Tejada and Vazquez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG Z Posted October 12, 2003 Author Share Posted October 12, 2003 I think tejada will go to us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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